Team America Vs Suicide Squad

Team America Vs Suicide Squad

Suggested by Jake_Uzumaki

Team America from Marvel goes up against Suicide Squad from DC.

Team America consists of 616 Steve Roger’s Captain America, James “Bucky” Barnes Captain America, Frank Castle Captain America, Ultimate Steve Rogers Captain America, John Walker Captain America, Sam Williams Captain America, and MCU Captain America. 616 Steve Bucky and Sam get identical copies of their shield so each has it, Ultimate has his Ultimate Adamantium Shield, John Walker aka US Agent gets his round Vibranium shield, MCU Cap gets his shield, other then that all of them have whatever equipment they usually carry 616 Steve is fully powered with the Super Soldier Serum again.

Suicide Squad consists of a Suicide Squad: Black Manta, Captain Boomerang, Deadshot, Harley Quinn, Joker’s Daughter, Deathstroke and Bronze Tiger all New 52 incarnations.

Scenario 1: A straight up head to head fight with both teams in Alcatraz.

Scenario 2: Battle takes place in Haran (dying light) Suicide Squad is sent in to kill Kadir “Rais” Suleiman Team America sent in to capture and extract him. Both teams are also supposed to take the other out as part of a side bet by

Maria Hill and Amanda Waller on who made the better team.

Tie Breaker Scenario in event of a tie: Both teams go through the plot of the film Predators, which team does the best in this situation.

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27 Comments on "Team America Vs Suicide Squad"

  1. Ragnorke March 15, 2015 at 7:31 am -      #1

    Black Manta being the dude that goes toe to toe with Aquaman… Someone that can do:

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    Goodluck Captains.

  2. LadyRamkin March 15, 2015 at 7:35 am -      #2

    AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!

  3. Sauroposeidon March 15, 2015 at 7:54 am -      #3

    Not the Team America I was hoping for..

  4. Jake_Uzumaki March 15, 2015 at 9:35 am -      #4

    @Ragnorke
    the thing is…as far as I know we haven’t seen Manta do anything on that level, at least in Suicide Squad. And the DC site doesn’t list him as having any powers.

  5. Ragnorke March 15, 2015 at 9:53 am -      #5

    “the thing is…as far as I know we haven’t seen Manta do anything on that level,”

    Shouldn’t power scaling be a thing?
    He can hurt a guy that isn’t even scratched by automatic guns.
    And can survive hits from a guy that can lift a cruise ship.
    He can keep up with a combatant that can swim at hypersonic speeds, and leap a building in a jump.

    While it’s true Aquaman usually comes out on top (thanks to his Trident imo), Black Manta has always been his most notorious foe.

    “And the DC site doesn’t list him as having any powers.”

    Comes from his Suit. Kinda like Ironman.

  6. Jake_Uzumaki March 15, 2015 at 10:18 am -      #6

    “He can hurt a guy that isn’t even scratched by automatic guns.
    And can survive hits from a guy that can lift a cruise ship.
    He can keep up with a combatant that can swim at hypersonic speeds, and leap a building in a jump.
    Comes from his Suit. Kinda like Ironman.”

    uhm…..Black Manta vs Deathstroke
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  7. Ragnorke March 15, 2015 at 10:37 am -      #7

    “uhm…..Black Manta vs Deathstroke”

    Flash vs Deathstroke:
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    arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/deathstrokejla3.jpg
    He wins a lot of fights that he shouldn’t.

    Anyways, his armor & weapon are both Nth metal. Not really a joke.

  8. Jake_Uzumaki March 15, 2015 at 1:04 pm -      #8

    Actually he hasn’t had Nth metal for a while.
    And even then that doesn’t explain him shattering the helmet. Or Manta only just being able to keep up with Harley in taking out cannon fodder in melee.
    Or Manta doubting his armors ability to tank machine gun fire.
    Everything I’ve found so far makes it seem like him not being killed by Aquaman is just Aquaman not giving a shit about actually killing him, since after several people he cared about died he shattered Manta’s arm and tossed him around like a cheap helpless squeaky toy. So I think the Aquaman stuff is the PIS and him getting his ass handed to him by Deathstroke is the level he’s actually at.

  9. Limbo Lowk March 15, 2015 at 1:27 pm -      #9

    Joker’s daughter goes down first. Seriously what does she add, All she really has is being crazy. Otber then that she’s useless imo. The Gordon kid would’ve been more useful, at least hes a genius. Or maybe Unknown Soldier.

  10. Jake_Uzumaki March 15, 2015 at 2:25 pm -      #10

    I couldn’t really find much on a lot of the people I looked at for that spot, no more or less than what she had at least

  11. Cassie Hack March 15, 2015 at 2:35 pm -      #11

    I don’t know about N52, but Manta was a threat because he well had a fucking army, he had resources to go to war with Atlantis. Again though this was like the Pre52.

  12. Limbo Lowk March 15, 2015 at 3:23 pm -      #12

    “I couldn’t really find much on a lot of the people I looked at for that spot, no more or less than what she had at least”

    Power wise he basically seems like a Captain america like super-soldier
    www.comicvine.com/unknown-soldier/4005-29643/

  13. Darth Bombad March 15, 2015 at 7:37 pm -      #13

    Whaaaaaat!?! no love for Isaiah Bradley?, at least there’s Sam Wilson.

  14. Limbo Lowk March 15, 2015 at 7:50 pm -      #14

    Lol, dat edit. No way Jakes forgetting Captian Falcon. I mean, Falcon America.

  15. Jake_Uzumaki March 15, 2015 at 7:59 pm -      #15

    That’s weird I could have sworn suggested it right.

    Anyway how does everyone see each scenario going?

  16. Limbo Lowk March 15, 2015 at 9:31 pm -      #16

    Only 3 of the seven in suicide regularly carry firearms. So that alone puts them at a disadvantage against Team A’s four.
    Of those 3 only two of them can hang in close combat with any of the americas.
    Harley is fairly agile and smart. Coupled with her use of explosives she might be able to last in a fight with Sam.
    Manta could probably take on punisher or ultimate.
    Bronze might be able to last against MCU.
    I see Deadshot and winter having a sniper duel.
    I don’t really expect a lot out of boomarang or JD.

  17. Jake_Uzumaki March 15, 2015 at 10:02 pm -      #17

    What about the potential tie breaker?

  18. Ragnorke March 16, 2015 at 1:18 am -      #18

    “him not being killed by Aquaman is just Aquaman not giving a shit about actually killing him, since after several people he cared about died he shattered Manta’s arm and tossed him around like a cheap helpless squeaky toy. ”

    Not so sure about the New52, but in Brightest Day he did do this:
    dailydoseofcomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Brightest-Day-19-Black-Manta-and-Siren-vs-Aquaman.jpg

  19. Jake_Uzumaki March 16, 2015 at 7:52 am -      #19

    Couldn’t that have just been Aquaman not having good piercing/cutting durability?

  20. Nsl98 March 16, 2015 at 8:45 am -      #20

    Team America!
    —–
    Scenario One: Team America, none of the SS could get past the shields, and pretty sure the only threat CQC wise is Deathstroke

    Scenario 2: Probably SS. Are any of the Cap’s trained in stealth and infiltration?

    Tie Breaker: No clue. Both of these teams could easily take on a few Predators and win.

  21. Jake_Uzumaki March 16, 2015 at 9:45 am -      #21

    Well Scenario 2 also has the zombies they have to deal with, they shouldn’t be too troublesome but they are there in droves.

    That said other than possibly Punisher I think the rest of the 616 Caps have done stealth missions.
    MCU Cap did that one at the start of Winter Soldier.

  22. Ragnorke March 16, 2015 at 10:12 am -      #22

    “Couldn’t that have just been Aquaman not having good piercing/cutting durability?”

    Piercing & Cutting are based on high intensity pressure. The exact same thing Bullets do.
    Pre-Flashpoint Aquaman was more durable than the new52 one AFAIK, and the new52 one has bullets bounce off of him.

    I just thought New52 Black Manta would be more similar to his Pre-Flashpoint self. But i guess he’s a lot weaker now.

  23. Ragnorke March 16, 2015 at 10:15 am -      #23

    “Scenario One: Team America, none of the SS could get past the shields”

    I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if some members of SS end up taking the shields… From MCU Cap forexample.

  24. Nsl98 March 16, 2015 at 10:47 am -      #24

    MCU Cap’s shield isn’t that durable though, is it?
    —-
    That Age of Ultron trailer showed it ripped in half.

  25. Jake_Uzumaki March 16, 2015 at 11:25 am -      #25

    @Ragnorke
    well I remember at one point fully powered Wonder Woman blocked bullets not to show off but because they could pierce her….despite the fact she should have been as durable as Superman. Can’t remember which version of her it was though.

    “I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if some members of SS end up taking the shields… From MCU Cap forexample.”

    I’d actually say Falcon is a better chance for them to steal the shield from in CQC. But I guess it depends on who fights who.

    @Nsl98
    Well MCU Thor didn’t even scratch the paint when he dropped the hammer on it so there’s that. As far as we’ve seen so far its nigh indestructible but what threshold it has compared to the comics is as of yet unknown.

  26. Ragnorke March 16, 2015 at 11:37 am -      #26

    “well I remember at one point fully powered Wonder Woman blocked bullets not to show off but because they could pierce her….despite the fact she should have been as durable as Superman. Can’t remember which version of her it was though.”

    Aside from the New52, she was never anywhere near as Durable as Superman. Not even close.
    And in the New52 i’m pretty sure she’s bulletproof…

    Also, maybe she was more durable against blunt force trauma than high intensity pressure?
    But in Aquamans case, both Bullets & Knife cuts are the same kind of “damage”

  27. Jake_Uzumaki March 16, 2015 at 12:12 pm -      #27

    Was there anything special about what the knives were made of?

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