Korra Vs Percy Jackson

Korra Vs Percy Jackson

Suggested by Nsl98

Korra (Legend of Korra) goes up against Percy Jackson (The Percy Jackson universe)

They fight in Republic City.

Korra starts in Giant Spirit Form.

Who will win?

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163 Comments on "Korra Vs Percy Jackson"

  1. Rookie March 16, 2015 at 4:29 am -      #1

    Probably Korra will win.

  2. Limbo Lowk March 16, 2015 at 5:55 am -      #2

    Korra angry!
    38.media.tumblr.com/f4353ce7ca85cb8af0ef7f72b6b51809/tumblr_naphhwFslE1t9w8rwo1_400.gif
    Korra smash puny demigod!

  3. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 7:10 am -      #3

    Why is Percy so popular lately?

    Korra shares her body with Raava whom is immortal, so Riptide should work just fine.

  4. Nsl98 March 16, 2015 at 8:36 am -      #4

    Wait, where did giant spirit form come from?
    —–
    Why is Percy so popular lately?

    I suggested, like, a whole package of 4 or 5 Percy matches.

  5. Friendlysociopath March 16, 2015 at 10:06 am -      #5

    Well, guess this would be the point where I ask something about Deathbattle- one of the big complaints I was hearing about Toph vs Gaara from my Naruto-loving friend (He bitched for a week straight) was that you can’t bend something someone else is bending. Is that true?
    If that is true, Korra won’t be able to bend Percy’s water.

  6. Commander Cross March 16, 2015 at 10:33 am -      #6

    Why did a fight like this wind up happening first when (Original!-) Kite vs Korra wasn’t ‘properly’ resolved yet?
    No one simply went to point me to where to watch Books 03 and 04 of The Legend of Korra so I can resume on the fighting, that’s all I’d ask until further notice. -__-

    At any rate, if Percy starts with River Styx Enhancements, then simply planting the Sea Shells and lasting long enough will Amp up his Physical Stats, Reactions and Reflexes included, even Further.
    If Percy has the Multi-Vitamins on him, Korra’s Direct Offensive Bending Attacks will be split in half in terms of usefulness per a few minutes’ worth of each use.

    If Korra opts to Poison Percy or resort to Blood-bending, simply put it’s gonna end with Percy just mentally snapping out and prepare the Overkill if this is to the Death.

    In a lot of ways this reads like a more Brutal counterpart to Kite vs Korra, since no one cleared up if this was meant to be Incapacitating and Power-Removal or simply sent to someone’s demise.

    One thing I forgot to ask though, how fast exactly is Korra WITHOUT The Avatar State as of late?

    I’m gonna work to not have my belly aching up all over the place, for now just work with me in here with regards I’m asking about, okay?

  7. Jake_Uzumaki March 16, 2015 at 11:23 am -      #7

    @Friendly
    I don’t remember it happening much off the top of my head..we did often see projectile bending countered but then you come to the argument of was that rock still being controlled/that fireball still being controlled/etc. And it opens up an argument of where does the benders influence end, was it a matter of skill or power or some combination.

    That said the problems with that DeathBattle go way beyond the “its just sand” thing (because that logic basically makes bending a no limits fallacy) and it’s not as relevant here since being able to turn Percy’s water on him might not really do anything.
    This is basically this is basically someone with incredible physical stats and decent water control vs someone with above peak human physical stats and control over four elements. If Percy gets close Korra’s probably screwed if he lands a hit (similarly to the situation she had to Sakura) so her best bet is staying as far away from him as she can.

    “Wait, where did giant spirit form come from?”

    So I take it this isn’t giant Spirit Korra?

  8. Ragnorke March 16, 2015 at 11:51 am -      #8

    How much water has Korra shown to bend at a time?
    Can she control anywhere near as much as Percy can?
    Caus the 10 thousand gallon feat was done quite a while ago wasn’t it? Percys gotten alot stronger since then. And that wasn’t even his limit.

    How Superhumanly fast is Korra again?
    Caus i don’t think anyone in the Avatar-verse can dodge short range bullets… Or move at Supersonic-Hypersonic speeds.

    Also, how much defenses could she put up?
    I mean… If Percy were to do a: Solidify a shit ton of water. Turn them into giant fists. Hulk Smash with a million newtons of Force.
    Would she Survive?

  9. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 11:54 am -      #9

    “If Percy has the Multi-Vitamins on him, Korra’s Direct Offensive Bending Attacks will be split in half in terms of usefulness per a few minutes’ worth of each use.”

    I contest that. Apart from fire bending which is fire that she actually creates, all the air, water and earth must be present for her to bend it. Getting hit with a rock that was thrown at you with bending is exactly the same as getting hit with a rock that was throw at you by hand.

    What are the vitamins really going to do if Korra drops a rock on Percy? How are they going to half the usefulness of that???

    Not that dropping a rock on Percy would really hurt him that much any way…..

  10. Friendlysociopath March 16, 2015 at 12:03 pm -      #10

    Well let’s see… Percy has tanked lightning before so that shouldn’t be a huge issue.
    Trying to hurt him with fire is likewise not going to end very well.
    And throwing water at him is literally helping him.

    So that leaves what? Earth, Metal, and Energy bending?

    @CommanderCross
    Can you help me find a sprite sheet for Kite? You seem well versed in .Hack and I’d like to pit him up against Kirito for a video.

  11. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 12:06 pm -      #11

    And Air bending, gives her a mobility advantage if not a speed one.

  12. Commander Cross March 16, 2015 at 12:08 pm -      #12

    @LadyRamkin at #9

    A very good question, I was mostly focusing on the not-so-physical Projectile Aspects of Direct Offensive Powers, I tend to do this a lot with Supernatural Power Systems in general.
    They’d definitely have to let Korra know that some of her ‘usual’ Combat Tactics won’t work on Percy for a few minutes at a time if anything.

    I wasn’t out to downplay on Korra’s Supernatural Power Systems so much as I’m going by what I’d recall, I’m all for not being 100% right all the time, it just so happens I was focusing more on the non-Physical Projectile side of the Attacks at the moment.
    Could Korra do Lightning attacks yet?

    @Everyone else

    As for Post #07, Kite(Dot Hack(.Hack) Universe) vs Korra was neglected since that was the first time Korra has to go on-site to fight someone of Superior Physical CQC Combat Speeds to her own, rather than Korra vs Sakura the last I checked.
    Stay around long enough and you learn some things.

    @FriendlySociopath at #10

    My gut hunch says it’s like sending in Harry Dresden vs Kirito by now, but sure I’ll find a Sprite Sheet when needed.
    Also, (The Original!-) Kite was Percy’s Spiritual Precursor as far as ‘Young Adult’ Media is concerned, and don’t get me started on Annabeth Chase and BlackRose either, but Sprite Sheets are first.

    Here’s some of the Sprite Sheets for Kite right now sir.

  13. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 12:26 pm -      #13

    Would Korra’s avatar state share feats with Aang’s avatar state, since they are….. the same person…. ish.

    Can Korra energy bend Percy’s abilities away. ya’know, if she manages to incapacitate him long enough to “do the thing”.

    Has Percy ever broken rock with his bare hands? because Korra could trap him the same way that earth benders trap everyone. And if Percy specifically needs to move his hands to control water Korra could very easily take this.

  14. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 12:31 pm -      #14

    img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140827154046/villains/images/3/34/Zaheer_Captured.jpg

  15. Jake_Uzumaki March 16, 2015 at 12:32 pm -      #15

    EoS Korra doesn’t have past lives anymore but whether the power is actually different or not is debated quite often.

    Energybend his demigod powers away….well that depends on how you want to play elemental compatability. Though I don’t think Korra can restrain him to do so.

    Percy is definitely strong enough to do so, though its been a long time since I’ve read the series

  16. Limbo Lowk March 16, 2015 at 1:08 pm -      #16

    “was that you can’t bend something someone else is bending. Is that true?”

    She and her uncle played tug of war with water iirc.
    ===
    “EoS Korra doesn’t have past lives anymore but whether the power is actually different or not is debated quite often.”

    Wouldn’t she be just Like Wan?

  17. Cassie Hack March 16, 2015 at 1:19 pm -      #17

    How many gallons of water did she bend when she pulled that water in the last episode from under the bridge to freeze Kuvira’s mecha? Is there anyway to tell?

    It’s at about 10:02 in the video

  18. Limbo Lowk March 16, 2015 at 1:20 pm -      #18

    Durability wise Korra has been smacked by Vatuu. In his fight with Raava they were breaking pieces of large rock formation.

  19. Friendlysociopath March 16, 2015 at 1:25 pm -      #19

    @Cassie
    That’s… significantly more than 10,000 gallons of water I think

  20. Nsl98 March 16, 2015 at 2:29 pm -      #20

    . So I take it this isn’t Giant Spirit Korra?

    —-
    Yeah, I don’t really know where that came from. I’m only in the middle of Season 2.

    But if it helps her in this fight more, sure.

  21. Limbo Lowk March 16, 2015 at 2:29 pm -      #21

    Heres the explosion speed feat
    s1222.photobucket.com/user/infamousColeMacgrath/media/Ava/korra%20explosion_zpshfdjgcqu.gif.html
    ===
    Wouldn’t Korra be capable of bending Percy’s sword?

  22. Ragnorke March 16, 2015 at 2:43 pm -      #22

    Average Surface Area for a human male is: 1.9 m^2
    Average Male height is: 1.75m

    That Mecha was 25 stories tall(?)
    Average height per story of a building: 3m

    Scaling the Mecha accordingly.
    25×3 = 75.
    75/1.75 = 42
    1.9 x 42 = 80 m^2

    Assuming Water covered entire surface area of the Mecha:
    80 m^3 = 80 thousand liters.
    80,000 x 0.264 = 21,000 gallons.

    Is the Mecha actually 25 stories tall though? I just read it on a fansite from a quick search on google.

  23. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 3:13 pm -      #23

    “Wouldn’t Korra be capable of bending Percy’s sword?”

    Dunno, does it posses the strange and inexplicable qualities of platinum that make it unbend-able?

  24. Envoy March 16, 2015 at 3:14 pm -      #24

    “And if Percy specifically needs to move his hands to control water Korra could very easily take this.”
    +
    He doesn’t.
    =
    “Dunno, does it posses the strange and inexplicable qualities of platinum that make it unbend-able?”
    +
    You mean being a pure metal? I’d think so, since anything else would hurt normals.

  25. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 3:27 pm -      #25

    “You mean being a pure metal? I’d think so, since anything else would hurt normals.”

    Is it really the purity??? Then why use platinum? Why not a metal that isnt soft and awful?

  26. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 3:44 pm -      #26

    If they really do bend a metal by the impurities, then all they would have to do is bend the impurities out while the metal is a liquid. Pure any metal you like.

  27. Jake_Uzumaki March 16, 2015 at 4:18 pm -      #27

    “Why not a metal that isnt soft and awful?”

    Because Avatar Platinum is equal to movie adamantium 😛

  28. Limbo Lowk March 16, 2015 at 4:29 pm -      #28

    “You mean being a pure metal? I’d think so, since anything else would hurt normals.”

    Have anything on how it’s made. If it doesn’t say anything about purfiying it then metalbending should still work on it.
    ===
    “If they really do bend a metal by the impurities, then all they would have to do is bend the impurities out while the metal is a liquid.”

    Does platnium have any other beneficial qualities. I recall it having a high melting point. So that’s good against firebenders.
    Apparently it’s noted for being ductile so I’d assume it good for forming into different shapes right?
    Also maybe platinum is a lot more common in Avatar and they had a shitton of it to spare.
    ===
    “But if it helps her in this fight more, sure.”

    They don’ really show just how destructive it is when the Avatars fought but the beams they fire at each other are same as what spirit vines releases.
    Just using pieces of stuff containing spirit energy allows stuff like
    1.bp.blogspot.com/-lgW7QyeqjHw/VId0vIUDusI/AAAAAAAAAyc/3-eq-VmYdk0/s1600/Korra%2BBeam%2BWeapon%2BEffects.JPG
    And Giant Avatar is basically MADE of the stuff.

  29. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 4:33 pm -      #29

    “Have anything on how it’s made. If it doesn’t say anything about purfiying it then metalbending should still work on it.”

    Celestial bronze passes through mortals without hurting them. And Riptide passes through Rachel without hurting her or stopping, if there were any impurities they would have made contact with her as the blade passed through.

  30. Limbo Lowk March 16, 2015 at 4:37 pm -      #30

    Nother durability feat, Korra and Kuvira smacking into each other the surroundings hard enough to den or destroy stuff and keep fighting

    Also Korra demonstrates that you can bend stuff someone else is bending via Kurvia’s attack.
    EDIT: Does the link work now?

  31. Limbo Lowk March 16, 2015 at 4:38 pm -      #31

    “Celestial bronze passes through mortals without hurting them. And Riptide passes through Rachel without hurting her or stopping, if there were any impurities they would have made contact with her as the blade passed through.”

    Or the magic metal just keeps that from happening.

  32. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 4:41 pm -      #32

    “Or the magic metal just keeps that from happening.”

    Well, if it does, its up to you to prove that it does.

  33. Epicazeroth March 16, 2015 at 4:51 pm -      #33

    @Rag: “Caus i don’t think anyone in the Avatar-verse can dodge short range bullets… Or move at Supersonic-Hypersonic speeds.”
    1) That happened literally once, ever. He has never shown that type of RT since. Unless we have reason to believe everyone is fighting at supersonic speeds, because he gets hit. Not all the time, but consistently.
    2) He can only move that fast while immersed in water. IIRC, that was seawater too, right? And that’s travel speed anyway.
    ===
    @Cassie: There probably is a way to tell, but I’m almost entirely certain that’s way more than 10K gallons.
    ===
    @Ramkin: “Is it really the purity??? Then why use platinum? Why not a metal that isnt soft and awful?”
    I’m almost sure platinum is different in this universe. Kind of like TES “Ebony”.

    Also, Celestial Bronze is magic. I’m pretty sure literally the only way to decide who gets hurt by it is “Are they Magic?”
    ===
    And shit! I need to finish LoK!

  34. Limbo Lowk March 16, 2015 at 4:52 pm -      #34

    “Well, if it does, its up to you to prove that it does.”

    It’d be nice maybe someone could actually post information on it. All I got is the wiki and it doesn’t really say anything about purifying it.
    camphalfblood.wikia.com/wiki/Celestial_Bronze
    Addition info would be appreciated. Maybe some qoutes or something.

  35. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 4:59 pm -      #35

    “That happened literally once, ever. He has never shown that type of RT since. Unless we have reason to believe everyone is fighting at supersonic speeds, because he gets hit. Not all the time, but consistently.”

    This is what ive been saying, but i tend to get ignored because i am weak willed, incompetent and generally anoying.

    “Also, Celestial Bronze is magic. I’m pretty sure literally the only way to decide who gets hurt by it is “Are they Magic?””

    Actually it doesn’t hurt mortals, but Korra is bonded to an immortal so it should hurt her fine.

    “It’d be nice maybe someone could actually post information on it.”

    Celestial bornze is a metal that is mined on mount Olympus, it is deadly to things with some connection to immortality. and passes through regular mortals, thats about it.

  36. Jake_Uzumaki March 16, 2015 at 5:03 pm -      #36

    Isn’t the gimmic of Celestial Bronze and Imperial Gold that they are forged from pure mythical godly metals or something?

  37. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 5:06 pm -      #37

    Uh, i think that imperial Gold has to be consecrated in a Roman temple, so it is super rare

  38. Friendlysociopath March 16, 2015 at 5:08 pm -      #38

    That happened literally once, ever. He has never shown that type of RT since.

    Well, he does fight another Demigod at speeds Piper can’t even follow- which should be pretty decent speed.

    Relevant quote:
    “[Piper] rolled to the edge of the road and looked back, dazed and horrified, as [Percy and Jason] crossed swords, gold against bronze. Sparks flew. Their blades blurred-strike and parry-and the pavement trembled. The first exchange only lasted a second, but Piper couldn’t believe the speed of their sword fighting.”
    “Many of Percy’s powers had gotten stronger over the years, but now, too late, Percy realized that swordplay was not one of them. He was rusty-at least against an adversary like Chrysaor.” (pg. 368).”


    He also tends to defeat entire groups of enemies before they can react; Ares kids, skeleton soldiers, Roman warriors etc. Somewhat harder to quantify except that everyone is casual arrow-blockers.

    Also, how big of a wave is need to “swallow a ship”? I’m seeing a Mark of Athena quote for Percy summoning a wave big enough to swallow a ship, I need to know the size of said ship.

  39. Commander Cross March 16, 2015 at 5:10 pm -      #39

    @LadyRamkin at #35

    You are Not Incompetent.

    Although the last I checked, the only enhancement of any kind Rachel Dare had on her side was that she could See The Supernatural without any Special Gear required, without some kind of Immortal Embedded to her Subconsciousness or having Supernatural Powers of any kind beyond that sight at its most ‘basic’ stage.
    I digress.

    @Everyone Else

    As for Post #36’s question, ‘Vanilla Mortal Humans’ can’t be harmed by Celestial Bronze, but generally anything else is Fair Game, New Roman Imperial Gold is Stronger in Damage-dealing and can harm more foes Than Celestial Bronze could, but is weaker in Durability.
    Celestial Bronze Weapons and Ammo’s best-used in fighting supernatural foes of any kind, or Genetically-Altered Humans but ‘Vanilla Mortal Humans’ don’t get phased by it directly.
    Also not ‘Just’ any Magic, Cosmic Magic did it and all that jazz.

    In any case, Korra’s not at all ‘A Vanilla Mortal Human’ or else this fight wouldn’t be here.

    I forgot to ask, is Percy gonna get either the Multi-Vitamins or the River Styx Enhancements in here?
    For that matter, how fast can Korra check on physical weaknesses of a given person?
    Does Korra have anything like Shatterpoint she knows how to use?

    @Epicazeroth at #33

    A lot of them are Fighting at Superhuman Combat Speeds, but moving at those speeds mobility-wise is another Animal entirely a lot of the times, River Styx Enhancements or anything involving Hermes aside as a general basis.

    @FriendlySociopath at #38

    Let me know if you need more Spreadsheets for (Original!- ) Kite of the Dot Hack(.Hack) universe and I’ll go nab some more, alright?
    Just be sure if you go on Netflix to go watch Dot Hack(.Hack)//Quantum before the end of March 2015 and we’ll be pretty solid more or less.

    To be honest I’m still surprised (Original!-) Kite didn’t get to fight Percy before Korra did, despite the fact his debut fight has yet to get ‘proper’ resolutions.
    Percy fought New Roman Elites and Combat Veterans, he’s fine Reaction and Reflex-wise.

  40. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 5:14 pm -      #40

    “rolled to the edge of the road and looked back, dazed and horrified”

    Why exactly was she dazed? head injury?

    “Their blades blurred-strike and parry”

    Well they wouldn’t have to be moving at supersonic speed to appear blurred

    “The first exchange only lasted a second, but Piper couldn’t believe the speed of their sword fighting”

    Piper at this point has no real combat training at all. Her opinion isn’t exactly one of an experienced veteran, but a dazed onlooker.

  41. Nsl98 March 16, 2015 at 5:15 pm -      #41

    Percy deflects a bullet while running towards it:

    “I won’t say I could see the bullet, but I could feel it’s path, the same way I felt water currents in the ocean. I deflected it off the edge of my blade and I kept charging.”
    -Titans Curse, p. 168

    ——-
    Dodging Tank Fire:

    “The chariot refashioned itself into s black metal box with caterpillar treads, a turret, and a long barrel. A tank. I recognized it from this research report I’d had to do for history class. Phobos was grinning at me from the top of a World War II panzer.
    “Say cheese!” he said.
    I rolled to one side as the gun fired.”

    Demigod Files p. 21

    —-
    Point Blank:

    . It was the stupidest thing I’ve ever done. A hundred muskets fired at me, point blank. All of tem missed. I crashed into the line and started hacking with Riptide.
    Last Olympian, p. 138
    —-
    He’s done it multiple times…

  42. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 5:18 pm -      #42

    “Vanilla Mortal Humans’ can’t be harmed by Celestial Bronze”

    Rachels ability to see through the mist, no matter how minor excludes her from the ‘Vanilla’ category yet she remains unharmed

    “For that matter, how fast can Korra check on physical weaknesses of a given person?
    Does Korra have anything like Shatterpoint she knows how to use?”

    Uh, she has no supernatural ability to identify weaknesses

    “It was the stupidest thing I’ve ever done. A hundred muskets fired at me, point blank. All of tem missed. I crashed into the line and started hacking with Riptide.
    Last Olympian, p. 138″

    That was Percy right after receiving the river styx enchantments, which enhanced him in many ways. Also the scene was written from Percy’s POV, If a bullet had hit him, he wouldnt have noticed since he was invulnerable hence he would think they missed, but im not gonna really use that as an argument, if you post a quote from after the fight, his clothes are ruined, with stab and bullet holes

  43. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 5:24 pm -      #43

    “I rolled to one side as the gun fired.””

    How far away was the tank? How fast do tank shells move? by what margin did it miss?

  44. Friendlysociopath March 16, 2015 at 5:24 pm -      #44

    Let me know if you need more Spreadsheets for (Original!- ) Kite of the Dot Hack(.Hack) universe and I’ll go nab some more, alright?

    Everything you can find my good man.

    Piper at this point has no real combat training at all. Her opinion isn’t exactly one of an experienced veteran, but a dazed onlooker.

    Piper has at this point seen plenty of combat between Demigods and says this is the best she had seen prior, so that’s very decent speed.
    Also, remember that the ADHD Percy has is for all Demigods, not just him. To overwhelm a demigod with speed is no small thing.

    Aha, found it, a Pirate Trireme was what Percy used a wave to sink.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trireme#Dimensions

    Also, it may be a high line but Percy was entirely unbuffed for that bullet-reacting feat. There’s no reason not to use it, especially when literally every book mentions he’s getting stronger and faster.

  45. Friendlysociopath March 16, 2015 at 5:34 pm -      #45

    Darn it, timer ran out.
    Percy not only controls water, he can control water vapor as well (which is how he creates hurricanes). So it doesn’t even need to be in liquid form for him to use it. He does this with the poison mist as well. So the whole “kill them from the inside” argument may still hold some merit.

    Also, physically he can jump 20 feet while carrying Annabeth, while in Tartarus, without a running start.
    And cut a tree large enough to squish several dozen enemy monsters in a single swing.
    And cuts through a stone fountain in a single swing, again.

    It should probably be noted so long as Percy is in water he gets regen enough to heal even critical wounds in seconds.

  46. Nsl98 March 16, 2015 at 5:40 pm -      #46

    @Ramkin
    How do we know Styx boosted Percy’s reactions? All we’ve seen it do is make you tired faster and super durable.

    No mention of it boosting reactions were in any of the old Trojan War Poems, and those are considered History Books in the Riordanverse.

  47. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 5:47 pm -      #47

    “How do we know Styx boosted Percy’s reactions? All we’ve seen it do is make you tired faster and super durable.”

    How do we know it didn’t? Do we have a comprehensive list of everything it does? We know it enhances him, Defiantly makes him stronger and faster, since it put him on par with luke, who thoroughly thrashed him before he got enchanted. Any physical feats for Percy while under the influence of enchantments that physically enhance him are not applicable if he doesn’t have those enchantments.

    There is also the possibility that the people shooting at him just had bad aim but i aint gonna push that either.

  48. Friendlysociopath March 16, 2015 at 5:56 pm -      #48

    Defiantly makes him stronger and faster, since it put him on par with luke, who thoroughly thrashed him before he got enchanted.

    Most of Luke and Percy’s fights are pretty PIS filled, which one did you have in mind?

  49. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 5:58 pm -      #49

    Any after the “I am evil!!!” reveal but before Percy’s magical bath time.

    I think there are at least 2 but its just gone 10 and my brains not working.

  50. Commander Cross March 16, 2015 at 6:01 pm -      #50

    @FriendlySociopath at #48

    Likely when Percy had to take a shot at Luke during The Battle of The Labyrinth since if Luke had the River Styx Enhancements during The Titan’s Curse and fought Thalia with them, Luke eventually lost.
    Not to mention in Book 04, Luke becomes the Avatar of a Titan God, loathesome as I am to dish out spoilers in the opening page.

    Also, are River Styx Enhancements or Multi-Vitamins allowed on Percy in this fight, or Not?

    In Water, Percy’s abilities to deal with Water could extend to 50,000+ Gallons, and With the River Styx enhancements, fathom 100,000-250,000+ Gallons for Low-balling’s sake if I recall right.
    I really hope I’m not getting it wrong, but even aside from the Nigh-Invulnerability granted from the Styx Enhancements, there’s also a Multiple of 5 times that Percy’s Physical Stats get enhanced upwards by the Enhancements, adding Water to the Mix after that makes it 5 times as much in fact.
    How far could 500+ Feet get you if you leapt that high, just to name examples?
    I’m pretty sure there’s far more examples than just that I could list in terms of Potential as well.

    Percy’s Powers also Evolve 5 times as fast as well, but it’s not good for Percy’s Declining Sanity as the Price though.

  51. Jake_Uzumaki March 16, 2015 at 6:08 pm -      #51

    @LadyRamkin
    wasn’t at least one of those with Cronos in control/Luke accessing Cronos’s time screw powers?

  52. Epicazeroth March 16, 2015 at 6:10 pm -      #52

    @Ramkin: “Actually it doesn’t hurt mortals, but Korra is bonded to an immortal so it should hurt her fine.”
    It hurts mortals with a direct connection to the Magical World. Capitalized because there’s no official name for it. It hurts Carter.

    “excludes her from the ‘Vanilla’ category”
    Not it doesn’t. It’s never stated that that is the case. I’m fairly certain it’s been explicitly stated that she does count as a mortal. Now that she’s the Oracle, it might be different; but when Percy tried to cut her she was just a normal girl. With possible immunity to Magic.
    ===
    @Friendly: “He also tends to defeat entire groups of enemies before they can react”
    1) When recently did he defeat other demigods “before they could react”?
    2) Usually that means “Before they recovered form their surprise,” not literally “Before their bodies could move.”

    “There’s no reason not to use it, especially when literally every book mentions he’s getting stronger and faster.”
    That makes it even worse. He’s getting faster, but he still hasn’t bullet-timed – at least not at that level.
    ===
    @Nsl: “Percy deflects a bullet while running towards it”
    That’s what we’re talking about; it’s a one-time thing that he’s never done anything like since. AFAIK.

    “Dodging Tank Fire”
    Telegraphed. Shouting “Say cheese!” tends to let your opponent know you’re going to fire.

    “Point Blank”
    1) Those are muskets. Many muskets fire below Mach 1.
    2) It says they missed. It doesn’t say he dodged them. And Percy basically always makes that distinction; at least at that point in the series.
    ===
    Also, does anybody else find it annoying that Riordan made Cronus the God/Titan of Time?

  53. Friendlysociopath March 16, 2015 at 6:11 pm -      #53

    Any after the “I am evil!!!” reveal but before Percy’s magical bath time.

    Let’s see:
    Lightning Thief- Percy actually disarms Luke one he gets some practice, at worst they’re equal, at best Percy is better.
    Sea of Monsters- Luke has a sword and shield while Percy only has a sword. Percy is also entirely out of practice for fighting.
    The Titans Curse- That was a against Thalia, who beat Luke.
    The Battle of the Labyrinth- Luke empowered by Kronos, doesn’t actually fight Percy here. Slows him down and slaps him a little, but Percy doesn’t even try to fight.
    Last Olympian- bath time all around

    Point being, no thrashing in a fair fight.

  54. LadyRamkin March 16, 2015 at 6:11 pm -      #54

    “wasn’t at least one of those with Cronos in control/Luke accessing Cronos’s time screw powers?”

    The thing on the boat? I think he and Luke fought and then time slow was put on him…. hen be broke it…. and the boat… i dont know, Im going to bed for now, bye.

  55. Limbo Lowk March 16, 2015 at 6:26 pm -      #55

    “Celestial bornze is a metal that is mined on mount Olympus, it is deadly to things with some connection to immortality. and passes through regular mortals, thats about it.”

    That doesn’t really tell me much about it being purified. Just that it’s mystical.
    Where did the wiki get the bit on how it’s forged from? Anyone got any qoutes from that?
    ===
    Also Could Korra BFR percy? She can use winds as a sort of fuax tk and has used it to bfr people before. If she could toss him into the spirit world where she move about it like this.

    Maybe dumb him somewhere horrible. Would the fog of lost souls be able to contain him?
    “The Fog of Lost Souls is a spirit prison for humans. I read about that in ancient text. The fog is actually a spirit that infects your mind and slowly drives you mad, imprisoning you in your own darkest memories.”

  56. Jake_Uzumaki March 16, 2015 at 6:27 pm -      #56

    later, seems Friendly found them all which is good since I couldn’t remember them

  57. Friendlysociopath March 16, 2015 at 6:42 pm -      #57

    later, seems Friendly found them all which is good since I couldn’t remember them

    Riordan did the build up quite well for the ultimate battle. Starts even, Hero loses and has to regroup, Villain later seems vanquished only to come back even stronger, then the Hero triumphs overall.
    Pretty standard; it’s amazing how many patterns emerge from stories when you look into it.

    For the record, Percy is resistant to both magic and mind-rape; though not immune.

    Where did the wiki get the bit on how it’s forged from? Anyone got any qoutes from that?

    Pretty sure it’s mentioned in the first book somewhere.

  58. Jake_Uzumaki March 16, 2015 at 6:58 pm -      #58

    I just meant its been so long I can’t remember the fights lol.

    @Lowk
    How would she get him to the Spirit World though?

    —–
    so would Korra’s best feat the stopping the megaton laser with her energy bending?

  59. Nsl98 March 16, 2015 at 7:07 pm -      #59

    Got it:

    “The sword is Celestial Bronze. Forged by the Cyclopes, tempered in the heart of Mount Etna, cooked in the River Lethe.”

    -Lightning Thief p. 154

    —-
    So we know Cyclops make it…somehow. Pretty mystical, eh?

  60. Limbo Lowk March 16, 2015 at 7:39 pm -      #60

    “How would she get him to the Spirit World though?”

    Theres a a spirit portal near where they are. Airbend allows for a bit of tk-ish feats.
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/Ava/3e93b8cbaaf6313e44ea4ac99f2927a7e4a60af944e7d14aefa2691e-1.jpg
    Both korra and Wan have used a large version of that.
    ===
    ” “The sword is Celestial Bronze.  Forged by the Cyclopes, tempered in the heart of Mount Etna, cooked in the River Lethe.”

    -Lightning Thief p. 154″

    So just the basic stuff. Nothing like purifing the ore used or anything?

  61. Limbo Lowk March 16, 2015 at 7:43 pm -      #61

    “so would Korra’s best feat the stopping the megaton laser with her energy bending?”

    I think becoming a giant spirit person and firing those laser would be he best feat. But that requires running away to the spirit world and meditating in a tree.

  62. Jake_Uzumaki March 16, 2015 at 7:54 pm -      #62

    forgot where the match was.

  63. Friendlysociopath March 16, 2015 at 8:16 pm -      #63

    Isn’t the Republic City Korra’s home?

  64. Jake_Uzumaki March 16, 2015 at 8:24 pm -      #64

    yes, but at the end of the season the spirit wilds collapsed in on themselves when Korra pushed back the laser cannon and ripped open a portal to the Spirit World.

  65. Limbo Lowk March 16, 2015 at 8:26 pm -      #65

    “Isn’t the Republic City Korra’s home?”

    Sorta kinda.
    I think during her time there she lived on the island Aang made.

  66. Envoy March 17, 2015 at 2:41 am -      #66

    “Have anything on how it’s made. If it doesn’t say anything about purfiying it then metalbending should still work on it.”
    +
    Its Celstial Bronze, not Celestial steel.
    =
    “Or the magic metal just keeps that from happening.”
    +
    It doesn’t, the fourth and fifth books have the sword/scythe “Backbiter”. Backbiter is made of regular steel and celestial bronze, because of its steel half it can harm normals.
    =
    “That’s what we’re talking about; it’s a one-time thing that he’s never done anything like since. AFAIK.”
    +
    He hasn’t fought against any gun users, also arrows and most thrown weapons are largely useless against him.

  67. Ragnorke March 17, 2015 at 3:14 am -      #67

    @Friendly
    “1) That happened literally once, ever. He has never shown that type of RT since. Unless we have reason to believe everyone is fighting at supersonic speeds, because he gets hit. Not all the time, but consistently.”

    It happens more than once. There’s at least one more similar feat if i remember correctly.
    Here’s the quote of the fight:
    “[Piper] rolled to the edge of the road and looked back, dazed and horrified, as [Percy and Jason] crossed swords, gold against bronze. Sparks flew. Their blades blurred-strike and parry-and the pavement trembled. The first exchange only lasted a second, but Piper couldn’t believe the speed of their sword fighting. ”

    “2) He can only move that fast while immersed in water. IIRC, that was seawater too, right? And that’s travel speed anyway.”

    Travel speed’s still relevant.

    “There probably is a way to tell, but I’m almost entirely certain that’s way more than 10K gallons.”

    Already calced it at 21,000 Gallons. (low end)
    But didn’t get any appreciation. *sniff sniff*

    ” It says they missed. It doesn’t say he dodged them. And Percy basically always makes that distinction; at least at that point in the series.”

    If you dodge something, then it still misses…
    There’s really no difference between those two words. Unless as you said, that distinction is specifically made multiple times… Which i’m kind of doubting…

  68. Ragnorke March 17, 2015 at 3:31 am -      #68

    Some better water manipulation feats:

    He tilts an entire cruiseship. Enough for everyone on board to lose balance.
    “Suddenly there was a wrenching pain in my gut. The entire boat lurched sideways, throwing monsters off their feet.”

    Average weight of a cruise liner is 40,000,000 kilos.
    Not bothered to measure how much force it would take to tilt it at 20-30 degrees. But i’ll do it eventually.
    It’ll be over a million newtons without a doubt. Likely tens of millions.

    He created a wave bigger than the Glacier they were on, and collapsed a big chunk of it.
    “Then [Percy] slammed Riptide into the ice at his feet. The entire glacier shuddered. Ghosts fell to their knees. Behind Percy, a wave of gray water even taller than the glacier. Water shot from the chasms and crevices in the ice. As the water hit, the back half of the camp crumbled. The entire edge of the glacier peeled away, cascading into the void-carrying buildings, ghosts, and Percy Jackson over the edge.”

    Height of the glacier from the water level was about 350ft, and the piece of the glacier that collapsed apparently created “several hundred acres of newly open water”

    An acre is 4046 m^2. 200 acres 809,200 m^2.
    That’s 809,200,000 liters if the water was 1m deep. Which is pretty shallow.
    161,840,000 gallons

  69. Limbo Lowk March 17, 2015 at 5:40 am -      #69

    “Its Celstial Bronze, not Celestial steel.”

    Soooo?
    ===
    “It doesn’t, the fourth and fifth books have the sword/scythe “Backbiter”. Backbiter is made of regular steel and celestial bronze, because of its steel half it can harm normals.”

    Thank you.
    So riptide is devoid of normal materials then.
    Got a quote on hand?

  70. Nsl98 March 17, 2015 at 8:51 am -      #70

    @Lowk

    What kind of quote? I’ve got most if the books on me right now.

  71. Friendlysociopath March 17, 2015 at 10:16 am -      #71

    Already calced it at 21,000 Gallons. (low end)
    But didn’t get any appreciation. *sniff sniff*


    I appreciated it! I appreciate all calcs since I can’t do them properly it seems haha.

    I was always sure Percy had better water feats than 10,000 gallons. That’s actually abysmally small, that’s like decently large fishtank size.

  72. Commander Cross March 17, 2015 at 2:06 pm -      #72

    @Ragnorke at #68

    Thank you so much for that, sir.
    *salutes*

    @Everyone else

    While I multi-task with nabbing some Spread Sheets for (The Original!-) Kite as requested, anyone mind telling me where I can go watch Books 03-04 of The Legend of Korra in the meantime please?

    Hoping those sheets will help (The Original!-) Kite by far, FriendlySociopath.

    fav.me/dz9dno

    Also hope that what I found in this link will help too.

  73. Cassie Hack March 17, 2015 at 2:47 pm -      #73

    Nick might still have them on the website, but there is also animeflavor. That’s where I used to keep up with the show.

  74. Aelfinn March 17, 2015 at 3:27 pm -      #74

    Aren’t Avatars island-level? Maybe not through pure water-bending, but Kyoshi did move the entire Kyoshi island. Of course, this might tie into “does Korra keep past power”, but, you know.

  75. Limbo Lowk March 17, 2015 at 3:53 pm -      #75

    “Of course, this might tie into “does Korra keep past power”, but, you know.”

    Well the power is all Raava. Which she still has. I think the past lives added experience to that power. Like how to do advanced bending stuff. She should still have the raw power. I mean she did bend that pointblank blast from the spirirt gun. Or cannon. I forget which would be trademarked to yu yu hakusho.

  76. Nsl98 March 17, 2015 at 3:55 pm -      #76

    Percy tanked a point blank volcanic eruption, I think he could take a few hits from Avatar State Earth Bending.

  77. Limbo Lowk March 17, 2015 at 4:17 pm -      #77

    “Percy tanked a point blank volcanic eruption, I think he could take a few hits from Avatar State Earth Bending.”

    How well was he doing in the volcano. Korra has created heat enough to melt metal chains. Not sure if they were iron or steel but either of which has a melting point thats hundred plus hotter then lava.

  78. LadyRamkin March 17, 2015 at 4:25 pm -      #78

    He was fairy resistant to the lava but it inst permanent resistance, the heat was getting to him, and would have hurt him eventually

  79. Friendlysociopath March 17, 2015 at 4:32 pm -      #79

    How well was he doing in the volcano.

    He was taking being covered in lava pretty well for a bit. He just regarded it as “warm” when it first hit him. Wouldn’t tanking lightning be a better feat for heat resistance?

  80. Nsl98 March 17, 2015 at 4:38 pm -      #80

    He didn’t lose consciousness until after he was already going re entry speeds. The explosion launched him that high.

  81. Aelfinn March 17, 2015 at 5:11 pm -      #81

    “Percy tanked a point blank volcanic eruption, I think he could take a few hits from Avatar State Earth Bending.”

    Surviving a point-blank volcanic eruption, while in the Megatons, doesn’t mean Percy tanked ALL the energy. The energy required to get a man to the top of the atmosphere is more than 49 Megajoules, which is about a tenth of a ton of TNT. That much energy is certainly within Korra’s capabilities.

  82. Ragnorke March 17, 2015 at 5:14 pm -      #82

    “The energy required to get a man to the top of the atmosphere is more than 49 Megajoules, which is about a tenth of a ton of TNT. That much energy is certainly within Korra’s capabilities.”

    Isn’t Percy faster than her?
    And can’t his water manipulation significantly lessen the effects of any blunt force coming his way?

  83. Nsl98 March 17, 2015 at 5:23 pm -      #83

    Movement speed, Percy (water amped) is borderline hypersonic, which is Mach 5.
    —-
    How fast can Airbendes go when doing the Air Orb thing? And can Korra to the giant Earth Wave Toph did back in the original series?
    —-
    Reactions for Korra were explosion timing iirc. Reactions for Percy are bullet timer. Don’t know if he’s a casual yet.

  84. Ragnorke March 17, 2015 at 5:25 pm -      #84

    The volcanic blast (which i believe was st helens?) was tanked by Percy at pretty much point balnk.

    www.icr.org/article/mt-st-helens-catastrophism/
    “The northward-directed steam explosion released energy equivalent to 20 million tons of TNT,”

    Even if he tanked 0.1% of that energy (lol at the low ball), that’s still tanking 20 thousand tons of TNT.
    Also known as 836,800,000,000,000,000 Joules of energy.

    Percy was knocked up a few hundred feet, and wasn’t even unconscious.
    This is ONLY the energy from the Northward steam explosion. Nothing else.

  85. Nsl98 March 17, 2015 at 5:31 pm -      #85

    Yeah, it was St. Helens.
    ——-
    So, what does Giant Spirit Form entail for Korra?

  86. Limbo Lowk March 17, 2015 at 5:54 pm -      #86

    “So, what does Giant Spirit Form entail for Korra?”

    The basics of being kaiju size. Enhanced strength, durability, firing giant beams at stuff. For example of what directed spirit energy beams can do see post #28.

  87. Nsl98 March 17, 2015 at 6:02 pm -      #87

    Oh. Ok.
    —-
    Percy’s no stranger to huge enemies, but it looks like Giant Spirit Korra may be a problem.
    —-
    @Rookie
    Why did you make its so she started off in her spirit mode?

    Base Percy and Base Korra could duke it out for a while, before the need for amps and powering up. Now it looks like Percy is gonna have to be on the move and full on attack mode from the get go.

  88. Friendlysociopath March 17, 2015 at 6:04 pm -      #88

    Why did you make its so she started off in her spirit mode?

    …Isn’t this your match? Either you wrote it out that way or there was a misinterpretation- and you can clarify what you meant beyond post 50 since it’s clarification, not changing the match.

  89. LadyRamkin March 17, 2015 at 6:10 pm -      #89

    “since it’s clarification, not changing the match.”

    Wait, does that mean that if you fuck up the description you can describe what you mean and that is then taken as the actual description?

    because i totally screwed up the description for the master chief head hunt thing…. though i did put Goku on a team so the match was already skewy….

    Who feels up for round two, with a better set up and more balanced teams?

    EDIT:I am actually going to have to source balance ideas though, since i wasnt 100% familiar with everyone involved, maybe i should ask Cross for a dot hack character to use… No idea what that is though…… or what team they would go on

  90. Nsl98 March 17, 2015 at 6:10 pm -      #90

    @Friendly
    It is my match, but I checked my files(e-mail), and their was no mention of Giant Mode.

    In post 20, I did however say she could start out in it if she needed too. But Percy doesn’t stomp Base Korra, at least from what I’ve seen.
    —-
    @Ramkin

    Totally up for Round 2, that match was godly, even if I didn’t particupdate.

  91. Commander Cross March 17, 2015 at 6:11 pm -      #91

    @Nsl98 at #87

    I DID try to ask about whether or not Percy gets Multi-Vitamins or the Styx Enhancements in play actually FOR A REASON!

    Also it technically meant that Mobility-wise, Styx-Enhanced Percy would have wounded up going Mach 25+ with Water, and we know his Reactions, Reflexes and Definitely Combat Speeds would have been far higher than his Movement Speeds to begin with.

    This likely winds up ending in a Quick-Draw session unless Percy starts out by the Waters of Republic City, isn’t it?

    Also, if Giant Spirit Mode is where Korra starts, wouldn’t that warrant a River Styx-Enhanced Percy lest we fathom a Quick-Draw session otherwise?

    @LadyRamkin at #89

    That would be me pretty much.
    I’m up for Round 02 and all that jazz, but this time add some professionals from Dot Hack or Madoka Magica who COULD especially work for situations like that.

  92. LadyRamkin March 17, 2015 at 6:42 pm -      #92

    Where abouts on the topia would i make a… thingy to discuss balancing forround 2. im not particularly internet savy.

  93. Epicazeroth March 17, 2015 at 6:47 pm -      #93

    @Friendly: Rookie posted it; maybe he changed the scenario to make it (what he though would be) fairer.

  94. Commander Cross March 17, 2015 at 6:48 pm -      #94

    @LadyRamkin at #92

    I find it hard to believe I am doing this so soon, but here is the link you asked for by all means.

    Also while I go and fathom that The Big-G Man Himself is still personally crossed with me in fact, hence some (more) incentives to seldom post at the topia, depending on how well your idea goes I’d like to add some of my own to the mix if you’d be approving of them.

    —-

    Anyway back to further matters at hand, hopefully it won’t boil down to a Quick-draw session on both sides but I’m not gonna hold my breath at the moment.

  95. LadyRamkin March 17, 2015 at 6:55 pm -      #95

    Thank you very much. Apparently its waiting for moderation though.

    If Korra is all big and spirity wont she be easier to hit with Riptide? I know Percy has the whole “I do a million forces worth of water damage thing”. BUT Riptide does soul damage, somthing that should be utterly crippling for the avatar.

  96. Limbo Lowk March 17, 2015 at 7:10 pm -      #96

    I think Korra has the mobility advantage out of water. Even poisoned she was boosting to keep up with zaheer and has shown she like the avatars before her is capable of moving large amount of elements even while in motion.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQf-PhnPJn8
    3:48 two big pillars then
    4:27 carries and tosses a house size boulder with her.
    ===
    I know it’s probably useless here but
    youtu.be/qcVV15YDTcM?t=3m44sv=qcVV15YDTcM
    Here is some Korra doing some underwater waterbending. Slicing a plane, redirecting a torpedo. A little before that point I think she also reocvers from one exploding near her. At the end we get to show here moving pretty fast. Not hypersonic though.
    ===
    Has percy ever fought another person who manipulates water before? I recall qoute about him forming fist and bring up waves but has he every gone head to head that regular manipulate water as a standard form of combat like waterbenders do?
    I ask because benders have to worry about alike pbender they are fighting countering their moves on the normal and are kind of used to that possibility. If Percy water suddenly turned to ice or snow then possibly redirected in a different form, would he be prepared for that?
    ===
    Little bit off topic anyone know if avatar is ever going to be continued somewhere else? I heard something about people petitioning nexflix for it at some point.

  97. Limbo Lowk March 17, 2015 at 7:26 pm -      #97

    To illustrate my point
    youtu.be/aMm5GiYxbpM?t=55s
    Also I guess the rest useable for other stuff. Like flips a car or messing with someones footing. I think she acctually used something similar in a fight with zaheer and her dad. She brought up a smal stone as he was moving to trip him.

  98. Friendlysociopath March 17, 2015 at 7:56 pm -      #98

    If Percy water suddenly turned to ice or snow then possibly redirected in a different form, would he be prepared for that?

    While I don’t think he’s gone against that exact scenario- he’s pretty used to fighting opponents with powers he doesn’t understand. It might sound slightly weird but “He expects the unexpected”.

    As for redirecting his water… is Korra capable of that? Percy’s control over water should be greater than hers judging by Rag’s calcs.

    Also, general question for Avatar people- how much can they do at once? Is she capable of air-bending to fly while also throwing stones at Percy or something like that?

  99. Nsl98 March 17, 2015 at 7:59 pm -      #99

    Percy uses a Sea God’s water against him:

    “Finally he tried to control the water. He wanted it to expand and break the tank, or explode out the top. The water didn’t obey. Maybe it was enchanted, or under the power of Phorcys. Percy concentrated until his ears popped, but the best he could do was blow the lid off the plastic treasure chest.

    Percy used all his strength to slam the marble into the wall, but he did more than that. He called on the water to obey him, and this time he refused to take no for an answer. He felt all the pent-up pressure inside the tank, and he put it to use. Water liked to be free. Given time, water could overcome any barrier, and it hated to be trapped, just like Percy. He thought about getting back to Annabeth. He thought about destroying this horrible prison for sea creatures. He thought about shoving Phorcys’s microphone down his ugly throat. Fifty thousand gallons of water responded to his anger.”

    -Chapter 16, The Mar

  100. Limbo Lowk March 17, 2015 at 8:17 pm -      #100

    “As for redirecting his water… is Korra capable of that? Percy’s control over water should be greater than hers judging by Rag’s calcs.”

    Avatar state might not give past skills anymore but it would still grant the power via Raava With that Aang pulled in the ocean to flood the forest at the end of the final fight.
    As for control how well does he shift the state of water. I know he can make it hard but can he make it ice or snow?

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