Team Manga and Comics Vs Team Naruto and Bleach

Team Manga and Comics Vs Team Naruto and Bleach

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Apocalypse (in his strongest version) from Marvel, Boros (first appearance today) from Onepunch-Man,  Bambina and Heracles (both made their first appearance today) from Toriko versus Naruto Uzumaki, Sasuke Uchiha and Madara Uchiha (in his human form, pre-Juubi and not Edo Tensei) from Naruto and Yhwach (also made his first appearance today) from Bleach.

Battlefield Pelennor Fields from LoTR.

Apocalypse knows about Yhwach ability and have two hours prep-time with his team.

No prep-time for Naruto and Bleach team.

Which team will win the day?

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33 Comments on "Team Manga and Comics Vs Team Naruto and Bleach"

  1. Warlock Lowk February 21, 2015 at 7:03 am -      #1

    I am Lowk, Guardian of Firsts. Bow before my timely ability to post before everyone else.
    And my intial bets go with team Naruto. They seem to be where it’s at. LOWK HAS SPOKEN!

  2. Rookie February 21, 2015 at 7:10 am -      #2

    @Warlock Lowk

    I am Lowk, Guardian of Firsts. Bow before my timely ability to post before everyone else.
    And my intial bets go with team Naruto. They seem to be where it’s at. LOWK HAS SPOKEN!

    You can’t be guardian, your class is warlock!

  3. Warlock Lowk February 21, 2015 at 7:25 am -      #3

    Warlocks can be guardians. We are a very diverse class in any medium.
    Apoc tanked an attack from cyclops and black bolt

  4. sadot06 February 21, 2015 at 7:33 am -      #4

    Well apparently Naruto is moon level in addition to now the flying Raijin (teleportation jutsu). And I don’t know what Sasuke can do in the movie but in the manga he casually put all the tailed beasts under genjutsu and then sealed them all inside earth prisons using the Rinnegan gravity ability. And Madara is Madara. I’m siding with team Naruto.

  5. Warlock Lowk February 21, 2015 at 7:38 am -      #5

    Apoc resist Prof X’s mental attack.
    Would that help against Sasuke?

  6. Rookie February 21, 2015 at 7:48 am -      #6

    Feats for Boros:

    After he used meteoric burst he managed to speedblitz Saitama:

    Punched Saitama all the way to moon:

    Capable to outspeed Saitama even without meteoric burst, with just one hand:

    After Saitama jumped back to Earth Boros still was able to speedblitz him for a time:

    Able to regenerate:

    His final attack:

  7. Rookie February 21, 2015 at 7:53 am -      #7

    As for Bambina some feats can be found here:

    Apocalypse Respect Thread

    And lastly here’s some feats for Heracles:

    Just skip to the feats themself.

  8. Rookie February 21, 2015 at 8:00 am -      #8

    Some feats for Naruto from movie:

  9. Shgon Dunstan February 21, 2015 at 8:03 am -      #9

    …What’s the point of having EoS Naruto and Sasuke, but non-Juubi Madara?

  10. Rookie February 21, 2015 at 8:06 am -      #10

    @Shgon Dunstan

    “…What’s the point of having EoS Naruto and Sasuke, but non-Juubi Madara?”

    So no eternal genjutsu can be used here.

  11. Shgon Dunstan February 21, 2015 at 8:22 am -      #11

    “So no eternal genjutsu can be used here”

    …How would it be different then a regular old genjutsu Vs all if four guys?

    More to the point, Naruto and Sasuke are arguably stronger then Juubi-Madara, while… Normal-Madara is so much weaker then ether of them as to make his presence kind of pointless. At least Yhwach has a different move set for Naruto to power up, they can pretty much already do anything of note that Madara is capable of.

    Would seem simpler to simply ban the IT.

  12. Rookie February 21, 2015 at 8:25 am -      #12

    @Shgon Dunstan

    “Would seem simpler to simply ban the IT.”

    There is also that tree-life taking life summon that Madara should have in his prime.
    And I also don’t remember if his limbo shadows can be beaten without rinnegan,
    There is just too many abilities to nerf, it’s more fair to use his usual self.

  13. Jake_Uzumaki February 21, 2015 at 8:27 am -      #13

    So this is alive Madara, with Senju upgrades and one Rinnegan eye from just before he took the Bijuu into himself?

    Okay so the times I’m about to post should be about right for the new video might be off by a couple of seconds.
    14:01 Naruto casually tosses a Rasenshuriken in base mode that destroys dozens of Toneri’s puppet minions…before even exploding.
    15:56 Naruto vs…a Sith Lord with a yellow lightsaber?
    19:08 Phases his hand into Hinata to remove a chakra sphere O_o He…he can fucking phase now? And get peoples memories in the process apparently.
    21:50 not relevant to a solo match but Twin Lion Rasengan is legit canon now!!!
    27:36 Naruto can now apparently separate Kurama/half of Kurama from himself at will. With no distinct loss in power
    28:47 Toneri blasts a chunk out of the moon with Silver Reincarnation Wheel…a wind based attack keep this in mind for later because Naruto will later match this same attack with Planetary Rasengan (looking for said moment at this moment) meaning Naruto has that kind of firepower himself.
    29:24 Kaiju battle on the moon! Which is relevant but also just awsome.

  14. Jake_Uzumaki February 21, 2015 at 8:40 am -      #14

    Well I remember reading something about Rinnegan Madara being equal to Tensiagan Toneri “I crush your planet with the moon using my mind” Ootsuki.
    So there’s that.

    0:34 start of Naruto vs Toneri the final smackdown pretty sure they cross multiple kilometers of moon while flying around.
    1:42 Naruto matches Toneri’s “fuck this chunk of moon” hurricane attack aka Silver Reincarnation Wheel.
    1:58 Rasen Rampage…Naruto creates and maintains two Rasengan’s as weapons.
    2:22 Moon slice
    3:12 Uzumaki Region Barrage/Massive Rasengan Barrage (dat boom)
    3:30 from underground uppercut surprise followed by point blank Rasengan to the face
    4:10 Naruto punches through Golden Reincarnation Wheel Explosion (aka the moon slicing laser sword)
    4:25 Kyubii Punch!! He actually punches Toneri hard enough to DEVOLVE his Tenseigan to a Byakugan (specifically Hanabi’s since those are her eyes but…seriously Naruto did the equivalent of punching a Rennigan back to a Sharingan)
    5:15 not Naruto but…holy shit Hinata just ripped Hanabi’s eyes out of Toneri’s skull…beware the fucking nice ones
    6:13 The distance the moon was split from itself
    8:08 uhm…so Toneri’s Byakubodi absorbed solar energy and overloaded on it and…Naruto…sucks it out of him?

  15. Numinous One February 21, 2015 at 8:49 am -      #15

    Doesn’t Toriko have a huge speed advantage? Like multiple instances of dodging lasers? Laser rain, orbital laser and laser pointers off the top of my head.
    The latter being done by a mook frog from memory.
    Dunno if that can be applied to Heracles, because you know, giant horse. Though it can react to people who are capable of that, so eh.
    But Bambina is pretty much leagues above everything shown in setting so far.
    Casual tailswipe generated air pressure with planetary range, bearing in mind Toriko earth has a stated in manga circumference of 220,000km.
    The build up to that was every creature experiencing impending doom and contemplating their last day alive and acting on it.
    Also that tailswipe occured in 100x gravity.

    Heracles was able to shake a continent with a kick, can breath in “oceans of air” so that everything suffers from oxygen deprivation and exhale with excessive force. A tiny snort pretty much annihilated half of Toriko’s body and bored a hole of unknown depth into the earth.

    Then there’s all the powerscaling you need to apply, mount turtle in particular since it apparently survived a continental level attack and Heracles is supposed to be around 60 times more powerful.

    Boros has feats in another OPM debate I believe, against FT I think?

    Apocalypse at peak? I’m sure someone more knowledgeable can get scans for that.

  16. Numinous One February 21, 2015 at 9:01 am -      #16

    Slight nitpick before bed, completely unrelated to topic at hand.
    “seriously Naruto did the equivalent of punching a Rennigan back to a Sharingan”

    The Tenseigan is the accumulated power of the clan sacrificing their byakugan over the course of a millenia, it also powers everything moon related, basically the habitable atmosphere.
    It’s likely that after expending so much chakra in his battle and the loss of it from defending and getting smacked down, Toneri may have simply run out of chakra, thus losing the Tenseigan.

  17. ReDruM February 21, 2015 at 2:37 pm -      #17

    Does team 2 have resistance against Nur’s mind rape? If not I’m definitely going with Team1.

  18. Jake_Uzumaki February 21, 2015 at 11:04 pm -      #18

    @Numinous One
    That’s the Tenseigan Energy Vessel not the Tenseigan Dojutsu.
    The combined Byakugan Tenseigan is a giant glowing sphere hidden in one of the islands around Toneri’s castle. Its a generator and weapon that draws in Natural Energy to be used to power the Moon Shinobi village, puppets etc. and in times of war to fire chakra energy blasts.In fact look at 29:27 you can see it in action.

    The Tenseigan Dojutsu that Toneri had was created, to quote him at 26:12 “When this pure Byakugan synergizes with my chakra it will transform into Tenseigan” In other words the same process that creates the Rinnegan but with different clans, instead of Uchiha + Senju its Otsutsuki + Byakugan. Same name, but there seems to be the implication they are two separate things. Equal in power perhaps yes as both were able to move the moon, but two seperate Tenseigans. The Energy Vessel was active before Toneri even had eyeballs, and his Tenseigan took a several days to activate. It wasn’t fully activated until after the Energy Vessel with the thousands/millions of Byakugan eyes was destroyed by Naruto and Hinata.

  19. Hac148 February 22, 2015 at 12:35 am -      #19

    Apocalypse uses his time to shit himself once he knows about Juha Bach (yes i know its Ywach but fuck that, its stupid to look at and pronounced the same as Juha Bach anyway)

    Juha’s power is the ability to see into both the past and future and observe any power within that spectrum. He gets everyone’s abilities looked at and makes himself immune instantly. That is litterally his power. His own abilities are the highest end on the quincy spectrum. If anyone in this fight has anything equivalent to spiritual energy, he fucks with it. In addition, i suggest people look into the powers of the Stern Ritter, as all the dead ones give there ability back to him.

  20. Numinous One February 22, 2015 at 2:14 am -      #20

    Yeah I remembered shortly after posting, my bad.

    Was it explained in the movie how they survived on the moon? I only skimmed it really, waiting for good quality.
    I know the Tenseigan provides a habitable zone inside the moon, but what about outside?
    Because I’m seeing Heracles breathe in all the surrounding air rather quickly.

  21. TheSorrow February 22, 2015 at 3:45 am -      #21

    The physical abilities of Bambina were made very clear painfully clear.

    Cutting a mountain (or at the very least a fairly large hill) with a simple swipe of his tail, and then proceeding to throw it at Mach 1. Only stopping after it travels the entire circumference of the Earth (220,000 km).

    The narrator describes a 50 km/sec jump into the Thermo-sphere as “soft” for Bambina, and that was before his transformation.

  22. Jake_Uzumaki February 22, 2015 at 9:48 am -      #22

    I think Toneri said there was a barrier around the moon but I don’t know if it actually is what allowed them to move about on the surface or not, I suppose the safe money is on yes, but again not 100% certain.

  23. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets February 22, 2015 at 7:06 pm -      #23

    Out of curiosity, how is anyone here going to get passed Apoc’s armor(assuming he has mind rape feats enough to counteract Sasuke and Madara’s mindrape)? Past Thor couldn’t do it without enchanting his axe and I can’t think of any canon instances where it broke.

  24. Rookie February 22, 2015 at 7:10 pm -      #24

    @CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets

    “Out of curiosity, how is anyone here going to get passed Apoc’s armor”

  25. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets February 22, 2015 at 7:15 pm -      #25

    Feats of them being powerful enough to get through Celestial armor?

  26. Rookie February 22, 2015 at 7:30 pm -      #26

    @CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets

    “Feats of them being powerful enough to get through Celestial armor?”

    Susan Storm had no trouble in hurting Celestian:
    Their armor is not this great against something other than brute force. It just Celestial themself durable as hell.

  27. Jake_Uzumaki February 22, 2015 at 8:39 pm -      #27

    Yeah TSB’s are atomic level..which is generally a bitch for anything to tank. Not sure if Apoc has no sold anything that destroys on the atomic level or not.

  28. Warlock Lowk February 22, 2015 at 8:42 pm -      #28

    “Susan Storm had no trouble in hurting Celestian:
    Their armor is not this great against something other than brute force. It just Celestial themself durable as hell.”

    You realize that that would’ve been a feat for Susan right. Celestials are trouble even for beings like Odin and galactus with energy and hax out the wazoo.

    That said apparently there might be a reason Susan is able to harm them

  29. Jake_Uzumaki February 22, 2015 at 9:45 pm -      #29

    though it should also probably be noted that durable though it is, Thor’s axe was able to damage it even before it was enchanted against Celestials. Might not have gone all the way through the metal but it did cut it.

  30. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets February 23, 2015 at 3:25 am -      #30

    “Susan Storm had no trouble in hurting Celestian:”

    Considering she’s made force fields strong enough to hold Hulk, Thor, Gladiator, and Blue Marvel before that’s not really a bad thing for a Celestial, and what Lowk said.
    “though it should also probably be noted that durable though it is, Thor’s axe was able to damage it even before it was enchanted against Celestials.”

    Considering how much stronger Thor is than anyone else here it’s not surprising. Considering how even he was barely able to do it, I doubt anyone else here could do it.
    Overpowered Jean and Prof X’s mentally.

    So, he should be able to resist Madara and Sasuke.
    Overpowered Hulk, something probably no one else here is strong enough to do.
    Hit QS
    Caught an axe thrown by Thor and then impales him with it by returning it.
    Remember that thing I mentioned about Sue’s shields holding back Thor, Gladiator, Blue Marvel and Hulk before?

    Yea. In one particular instance she restrained the SHIELD Avengers, Mighty Avengers, and New Avengers. It had two Hulks, Captain Marvel, Luke Cage, Shulk, and Captain Brittain being the most noteworthy members. So, being able to break it is fairly impressive.

  31. Jake_Uzumaki February 23, 2015 at 8:12 am -      #31

    The problem is…Thor’s axe isn’t cutting on the atomic level. Whereas a TSB which destroys anything it touches, not powered by or made of Senjutsu, on the atomic level. trying to catch one is not recommended if your fond of the appendage your reaching with. It doesn’t rely on strength, just straight hax.

    “Hit QS”

    That would be impressive….if that wasn’t back when Pietro could only run at the supersonic speed of 770 mph….compared to Naruto Sasuke and Madara’s hypersonic speeds….

    And while I’m not going to argue Naruto could beat peak Hulk, he was fairly strong well before end of series: “Rhino throwing:
    This assumed 25 meter height for the Rhino.
    But I’ll do my own, assuming various heights.
    First 25:
    White rhino minimum dimensions:
    height 1.8m
    width ~2.7m
    length 3.5m
    Volume = 17.01m^3
    Average male weight: 2300 kg
    density = 135.215 kg/m^3 (yes its wrong but it’s just used to scale up, the dimensions don’t account for the empty space)
    Square cube law: new volume = 17.01*(25/1.8)^3 =
    45,572.9167 m^3
    Weight = 6,162,141.927083 kg = 6,162.142 tons.
    Average rhino dimensions and high end weight:
    height 2m
    width 3m
    length 3.8m
    3600 kg
    density = 157.8947
    new volume = 44531.25m^3
    7,031,250 kg = 7,031.25 tons

    Now to throw the rhino 200/300 meters away from Naruto:
    Angle looks to be 70 degrees:
    Height thrown: 154.7781 m
    Length thown: 126.6638 m
    Basing off the anime, it took two seconds to throw the rhino.
    55.08 m/s to get to 154.7781m without air resistance = acceleration of 55.08/2= 27.54 m/s^2
    Force exerted= 169,705.39068 tons
    22.5376 m/s to travel that length.
    Force exerted = 69,439.9457696 tons
    239,145.336449 tons total

    Heigher weight force total:
    193640.625+79233.75= 272874.375 tons total ”

    since performing that feat Naruto’s gotten a second physical boost from Nine Tails Mode, which he combines with Sage Mode on principle now, may or may not have gotten a physical strength boost from Rikudo Senin Mode, and can use the 5 Tails chakra boiling technique to further increase his strength.

  32. Rookie March 5, 2015 at 1:31 pm -      #32

    Bambina speed feat:

  33. g.o.i March 7, 2015 at 4:22 pm -      #33

    so Yhwach should have Zach no tach in this fight depending when he is from which means he has a sword which can burn things out of existence.

    He places a piece of his soul automatically into someone when he touches them or is touched and when they die he gets their knowledge, power and abilities.

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