Super Smash Bros Battle Royale

Super Smash Bros Battle Royale

Suggested by KalaDellexe

All of the characters from every Smash Bros game are in a fight to the death! All characters are at their strongest!
Who will be the last man (or woman!) standing?! Who will die first? Who is totally out of their league? Who ROFLstomps the competition?
The arena for their fight is the abandoned city of New York!
As for the Links, there will be three Links in this match. OOT Adult Link, Toon Link (Composite of the three Toon Link games), and Twilight Princess Link!

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64 Comments on "Super Smash Bros Battle Royale"

  1. Nsl98 February 2, 2015 at 8:09 am -      #1

    Sonic>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Samus>>>>>>>>the rest.

  2. Shgon Dunstan February 2, 2015 at 8:19 am -      #2

    (reads OP)… I’d say the bosses do rather well.

    That being said, I’ve heard Ness is pretty powerful.

  3. Xornell February 2, 2015 at 8:25 am -      #3

    I don’t know the filthy weeb characters so they may be higher here. I don’t know. Rosalina is supposedly galactic scale power, so probably she’s the most powerful out of the game meta. Next is Kirby for ftl speed, planetary durability, and planet splitting punches. Next I’d say DK for (iirc) bringing down the moon with a punch. Link is a mid-tier here. I feel like Mario is as well although he may have some ridiculous feats somewhere in one of his million games.

    Weakest is maybe ROB. He’s just a toy.

    Ingame I main shiek and she’s pretty good. Super fast and a great air game. Diddy is good too, but I never play him. I’ve seen people be good with Falco.

  4. Shgon Dunstan February 2, 2015 at 8:36 am -      #4

    Doubt he’d win, but can help but think Mewtwo is going to be hitting way out of his weight class here.

    Being one of the few, if not only for all I know, telepaths in the fight has it’s perks. :lol:

  5. Nsl98 February 2, 2015 at 8:41 am -      #5

    @Xornell

    You do the 3ds or the WiiU version?

    —-

    I forgot about Rosalina. Think Sonic can still Blitz her?

  6. Xornell February 2, 2015 at 8:46 am -      #6

    I think you were more on the ball with Ness, but yeah mewtwo will do alright. Telepathically his only competition are Ness and lucario (RIP Lucas).

    Only have the 3ds. Just bought it to play with friends. I suck but am getting more into the meta lol. Been really into competitive starcraft too, buT I’ve been ass since hots came out.

    I feel like being an entity on the scale she is, it’d be really hard to speed by rosalina. Especially if sonic doesn’t have access to his super form, which he would have to activate. Sonic is a deal higher than most of the others though.

  7. Shgon Dunstan February 2, 2015 at 10:03 am -      #7

    Now that I think of it… Didn’t the Pokemon Creation Trio show up in a Bawl stage?

  8. pimpmage February 2, 2015 at 10:09 am -      #8

    The match says all characters from every game. This would include npc’s like tabuu and trophies.
    Edit: this would also mean the kid who imagines all these games taking place is a combatant too.

  9. Private Khaos February 2, 2015 at 10:19 am -      #9

    @pimpmage

    I think they meant playable characters, not all of them including NPCs. Which being said I think the villager is the first one dead

  10. Xornell February 2, 2015 at 10:24 am -      #10

    I was actually going to bring up that little loophole of the “playable” VS “NPC” characters not being specified. I’m pretty certain the OP meant playable characters, though. Also listing every total character will be pretty ridiculous and will shoot this up from dozens of characters to thousands.

  11. pimpmage February 2, 2015 at 11:02 am -      #11

    Well, until OP Clarifies, the child who imagines every game taking place just stands up and steps away from the table with all his dolls and trophies. Every character ceases to remain sentient.

    Though I don’t recognize op’s name so I doubt he/she will post here. I would vote that op meant playable characters only.

  12. Friendlysociopath February 2, 2015 at 11:22 am -      #12

    Probably narrows down to just a few combatants:
    Sonic, Kirby, Samus, possibly Pit, and Palutena.

    I’ve seen the cutscene of Rosalina supposedly dealing with a black hole- it’s all the Luma’s work, she does nothing.

    So all characters at their strongest?
    I don’t think Samus can compete with the FTL crew, and I know next to nothing about Pit. Isn’t Palutena supposed to be a God?
    So I think this match is mostly Kirby vs Sonic.

    Er, purely for the sake of asking- would the description mean Ike has the Fire Emblem and the power of a Goddess? That might shift the balance a bit.

    I would vote that op meant playable characters only.

    I would second that vote.

  13. Xornell February 2, 2015 at 11:35 am -      #13

    Actually the child would still be a child, and would be shit on by any of the characters in smash. Not even confirmed for child anyway.

    Rosalina comes with Luma. They’re the same character.

    If no rosalina, kirby takes it. Sonic may be faster, and that’s a big maybe, but he can’t do anything that’ll hurt kirby.

    Will respond more later.

  14. Friendlysociopath February 2, 2015 at 11:42 am -      #14

    Rosalina comes with Luma. They’re the same character.

    Lumas, many many Lumas, were required for that feat.

  15. Nsl98 February 2, 2015 at 12:01 pm -      #15

    Rosalina has infinite Lumas though, at least in Smash. Seriously, I HATE fighting them online.

  16. pimpmage February 2, 2015 at 1:02 pm -      #16

    “Actually the child would still be a child, and would be shit on by any of the characters in smash. Not even confirmed for child anyway.”

    Every sb character only had sentience because of this child’s imagination. If this kid felt like it, he could stop daydreaming and every sb character immediately cease to exist but as a plush doll or a trophy.

  17. Nsl98 February 2, 2015 at 1:09 pm -      #17

    That would only be for their Smash incarnations though. That’s what the kid is in control of. The SSB kid has no say in what the canon versions of the characters can do and not do.

    Wait, we are using canon incarnations, right?

  18. pimpmage February 2, 2015 at 1:23 pm -      #18

    This says all smash bros characters from every game. This means the characters exist within the smash verse but retain all abilities of their most recent canon incarnation.

  19. KalaDellexe February 2, 2015 at 2:54 pm -      #19

    “Though I don’t recognize op’s name so I doubt he/she will post here. I would vote that op meant playable characters only.”

    Oh ye of little faith.

    I mean only the playable characters, including those who have been cut (Lucas, Wolf, etc.).

    The fight is using canon incarnations.

    Any other questions?

  20. Nsl98 February 2, 2015 at 3:00 pm -      #20

    Cool. @Kala are you new?

    —-
    So far looking like Kirby, Sonic, Ness and Rosa may be top contenders.

    Don’t know much on Kid Icarus characters, but looking at Pits fight with Kratos, he’s pretty tough. Palutena is up there too.

  21. Friendlysociopath February 2, 2015 at 3:03 pm -      #21

    Alright, so we’re using only playable characters from Smash Bros but they retain their own canon.
    Correct?

    In which case- yeah, Rosalina, Sonic, Kirby, Palutena, those are pretty much the only relevant characters. As soon as the battle starts those 4 can just leave the planet and let everyone lower fight while they decide who the real victor will be.

    Does Ike have the Fire Emblem? Or do we term that outside help?

  22. KalaDellexe February 2, 2015 at 3:04 pm -      #22

    “Cool. @Kala are you new?”

    I’ve been lurking for a loooooooong time and occasionally post, it’s not surprising most people don’t recognize my name.

    “Alright, so we’re using only playable characters from Smash Bros but they retain their own canon.
    Correct?”

    Yup.

    We can have a low-tier battle too, if people care to debate that.

  23. Nsl98 February 2, 2015 at 3:08 pm -      #23

    Low tier battle huh? In that case, I’m with Ike. The dude casually solos armies, peak human reflexes, and Ragnell.


    As for the high tiers, gonna wait till more info. on Rosa and Palutena first.


    I used to lurk, for like, a few months before I actually started posting.

  24. Friendlysociopath February 2, 2015 at 3:14 pm -      #24

    I used to lurk, for like, a few months before I actually started posting.

    I actually only found this site because after Cloud vs Link’s Deathbattle I (naturally) complained a bit about the outcome. When I started going in-depth people just said to go to BankGambling because “They go super in-depth.”

    In that case, I’m with Ike

    Samus and Mewtwo would like a word with you.

    I don’t think Rosalina is actually that powerful. I’m more interested in Sonic vs Kirby. Plus the odd bit about Palutena.

  25. Nsl98 February 2, 2015 at 3:18 pm -      #25

    @Friendly
    I discovered this site last year when my sister claimed Link could beat Sora, so I googled it. And yeah, Death Battle’s results can be a bit wonky sometimes.
    ——

    I said Ike for the low tier battle, Samus and Mewtwo would count as mid to upper mid compared to the others.

  26. Xornell February 2, 2015 at 3:35 pm -      #26

    “Lumas, many many Lumas, were required for that feat.”

    I’m almost positive there was another feat where Rosalina created a galaxy or something.

    “Every sb character only had sentience because of this child’s imagination. If this kid felt like it, he could stop daydreaming and every sb character immediately cease to exist but as a plush doll or a trophy.”

    1. That’s really a theory. A well backed theory, but I don’t believe it was ever confirmed.
    2. That’s within the smash meta. If we go outside that, we have a boy with some toys against actual real characters (for the purpose of the match).

    “I’ve been lurking for a loooooooong time and occasionally post, it’s not surprising most people don’t recognize my name.”

    Welcome to the… I wanna say remnants of BankGambling? Haven’t seen much activity here lately. Doesn’t feel dead yet, though.

    I feel like Shulk would make it to the end of the low-tiers. Future sight and I hear he created a universe or something at the end of Xenoblade? Ganon is also supposedly immortal and hella strong, plus it’s at his peak so…

  27. Nsl98 February 2, 2015 at 3:53 pm -      #27

    Pretty sure Ganon could be dealt with by any Link, a Fire Emblem character, Shulk, and Pit. Snake maybe, since the Rules state Evils Bane has to be present.


    Wouldn’t the after effects of the High Tier fight destroy the planet the Smashers are on? Kirby can crack planets in half.

    —–

    I don’t think FP is dying, I mean, sure we’ve had a couple of people leave in the last few months, but that won’t stop new people from coming.

    And the current debaters, at least, the ones that consistently comment like, every few days (Ragnorke, Xornell, Lowk, Rookie, Sauro, Cross, Sociopath etc.) don’t seem to be leaving anytime soon, so their is that.

  28. Aelfinn February 2, 2015 at 4:05 pm -      #28

    People have been complaining about the death of BankGambling ever since I joined, and I remember the Triumvirate, if only briefly. Just because there isn’t a big sci-fi fight every week doesn’t mean it’s dead. On that note: “Star Trek and Star Wars vs. Starcraft and Halo”? Could be interesting. Maybe we should go visit Star Trek vs. Stargate again…
    =
    “When I started going in-depth people just said to go to BankGambling because “They go super in-depth.””

    We once had someone come from YouTube because the people they were arguing with told them to come here. It’s kind of neat to see that BankGambling has some kind of reputation.
    =
    Anyway, while Palutena is high-tier, can she do a lot on a personal level?

  29. Friendlysociopath February 2, 2015 at 4:16 pm -      #29

    Hmm, so what say we split this into 3 tiers then? High, mid, and low? I’m gonna need some help, I’ve only played Brawl and a bit of the new one.

    My suggestions for high-tier:
    Kirby
    Sonic
    Palutena
    Rosalina

    Mid tier:
    Samus
    Mewtwo
    Shulk (If this progresses long enough I’m going to bring up Ether again)
    Ganondorf
    Donkey Kong
    Meta Knight
    Ike (If he has his Fire Emblem)

    Low tier:
    Link 1
    Link 2
    Link 3
    Zelda
    Mario
    Luigi
    Wario
    Yoshi
    Bowser
    Peach
    Villager
    Olimar
    Ice Climbers
    Dedede
    Various pokemons
    Bower Jr.
    ROB
    Fox, Falco, Wolf
    Little Mac
    Diddy Kong
    Wii Fit person
    Snake
    Fire Emblem characters that aren’t Ike
    …Game and Watch?

    Did I miss anyone?

    Anyway, while Palutena is high-tier, can she do a lot on a personal level?

    I’m looking here myself
    kidicarus.wikia.com/wiki/Palutena#Powers_and_Abilities

    Seems like general beams of light plus some polymorph.

  30. Jolttra February 2, 2015 at 4:16 pm -      #30

    Sonic at his strongest is the Archie version. He casually wipes out dimensions. Even if we are only going by games his strongest game incarnation is ina perminate state of invincible super sayin rip-off. So he takes this easily.

    As for the weakest, I’m gonna say Pichu. He’s the only one that hurts himself with basic attacks. Unless we are using the characters in a more realistic scale, to which Olimar and his Pikman are about 3 inches tall. Even Pichu would stomp them to death.

  31. Cassie Hack February 2, 2015 at 4:21 pm -      #31

    You forgot Megaman

  32. Alpha or Omega February 2, 2015 at 4:24 pm -      #32

    @Xornell
    “1. That’s really a theory. A well backed theory, but I don’t believe it was ever confirmed.”
    /
    “The Master Hand awaits anyone who survives the long difficult road to the Final Destination. This symbolic link between the real world and the imaginary battlefields of Super Smash Bros. Melee is quite a handful in battle,” (Master Hand trophy, Super Smash Bros Melee)
    /
    “2. That’s within the smash meta. If we go outside that, we have a boy with some toys against actual real characters (for the purpose of the match).”
    /
    True.
    /
    Anyway.
    Brute strength goes to Donkey Kong or Kirby
    Durability goes to Rosalina as she tanked the universe in the big crunch, and if she is to believed, has survived the countless destruction and resurrection of the universe.
    Time hax and what not goes to Super Sonic
    Speed also goes to the same character Sonic.
    Reality warping hax goes Shulk’s Monado since Link doesn’t have the Triforce.
    Pit at his strongest had a mech.
    Bowser is kinda wonky as he can be a time traveler in some games and in other games…
    /
    What is defined as “low tier” out of curiosity?
    Isn’t that like subjective?
    Peak human
    Super human
    Meta human
    Cosmic?
    /
    Edit:
    I don’t think Palutena is high tier in FS list.
    She would be mid tier.
    Shulk should be high tier if he’s at his strongest.

  33. Nsl98 February 2, 2015 at 4:36 pm -      #33

    I’d personally put Little Mac in the mid tier level or at least near the top of low, since he threw down with DK and won.

    He also regularly fights dudes that lift trucks up, that destroy entire buildings w/their fists, guys that casually punch Bulls to the sky, and run faster than bullet trains

  34. pimpmage February 2, 2015 at 4:44 pm -      #34

    “Bowser is kinda wonky as he can be a time traveler in some games and in other games”

    In paper Mario 1, there was a star rod that granted wishes. Either that or the power Mario had late into that game granted him the power to make wishes. Luigi also had a huge power up in paper Mario 3 when some weirdo combined his body with that of a universal reality warper. I can look up the specifics later.

  35. Alpha or Omega February 2, 2015 at 4:50 pm -      #35

    I wouldn’t put Mac in that tier since fighting really isn’t a feat. Really, I don’t think Mac should be fighting the likes of Kong
    Remember when Superman fought Mike Tyson?
    And lost?
    /
    In all honesty, if anyone deserves to move up from low tier to mid tier.
    If they are at their strongest.
    It would be
    -Mario (intangibility, status effect protection, strength to pick up and punt castles, minor toon force)
    -Luigi (had the chaos hearts, a multiverse busting weapon, though he was mind controlled when wielding it)
    -Bowser (time traveler or grow really tall and massive)

  36. Friendlysociopath February 2, 2015 at 4:58 pm -      #36

    Eh, good points, my tiers were based off regular versions- not strongest.

    But doesn’t everyone here have invulnerability as their strongest form? Pretty much every video game character has one way or another to become invincible for a short time.

    I’d personally put Little Mac in the mid tier level or at least near the top of low, since he threw down with DK and won

    He absolutely did not- show me a place where Mac beats DK and I will show you a nest of lies.

    My tier suggestions was something like this:
    High- able to easily leave the planet and destroy it in some fashion.
    Mid- Everyone who wasn’t high but was better than low
    Low- Peak human at best, maybe a bit better for some cases

    Some of that depends on things:
    Ike having his Fire Emblem gives him the powers of a God to use
    Shulk manipulates reality by manipulating Ether- something not everyone present has something EC to.
    Palutena is supposedly omnipotent according to the wiki.

  37. Alpha or Omega February 2, 2015 at 5:06 pm -      #37

    “But doesn’t everyone here have invulnerability as their strongest form? Pretty much every video game character has one way or another to become invincible for a short time.”
    /
    Invulnerability is usually taken as a NLF
    /
    “He absolutely did not- show me a place where Mac beats DK and I will show you a nest of lies.”
    /
    He actually did, which shouldn’t be counted as a feat since Mac isn’t DK tier.
    /
    “Shulk manipulates reality by manipulating Ether- something not everyone present has something EC to.”
    /
    Except it would be more akin to life force as I posted in post 105 of Shulk vs Percy Jackson.
    /
    “Palutena is supposedly omnipotent according to the wiki.”
    /
    Fak the wiki tiki.

  38. Nsl98 February 2, 2015 at 5:11 pm -      #38

    Mac did beat DK.

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=mOvn18LKL_8

    ——
    Edit: I’ve been *gasp* ninja’d.

  39. Friendlysociopath February 2, 2015 at 5:17 pm -      #39

    Except it would be more akin to life force as I posted in post 105 of Shulk vs Percy Jackson.

    No it is not, your reasoning for that was flawed there too.
    If it comes from the environment it’s not life energy. It’s an element in the planet that also happens to be in people.
    If it’s harnessed as a power source in that world it’s not ‘life energy’.

  40. Alpha or Omega February 2, 2015 at 5:25 pm -      #40

    “No it is not, your reasoning for that was flawed there too.
    If it comes from the environment it’s not life energy. It’s an element in the planet that also happens to be in people.”
    /
    To be specific, it came from Zanza who used to be the environment, or the giant world mech.
    It keeps people alive and without it, people die.
    /
    “If it’s harnessed as a power source in that world it’s not ‘life energy’.”
    /
    That’s an assumption. Who says life energy can’t be a power source? Metroids do it all the time.
    Literally, Zanza calls it life energy. Dickson calls it life energy, it’s called the building block of life, people die without it, and what not.
    Sounds like life energy to me.

  41. Friendlysociopath February 2, 2015 at 5:55 pm -      #41

    Literally, Zanza calls it life energy. Dickson calls it life energy, it’s called the building block of life, people die without it, and what not.
    Sounds like life energy to me.


    The game calling it life energy doesn’t make it life energy as we use it.
    They mine the stuff from the Earth, it’s very specifically an element.
    xenoblade.wikia.com/wiki/Mining
    xenoblade.wikia.com/wiki/Ether_Crystal
    xenoblade.wikia.com/wiki/Ether
    Here, people can look and make up their own minds.

    Like I said in the Percy thread, it’s more like mako from FF7 or mana from the Tales series. Stuff that isn’t life energy. Shulk should still be able to affect some people here- but not everyone.

    This entire point might be slightly worthless- does anyone know if Palutena is actually omnipotent? If she is then… well, she’s omnipotent.

  42. Nsl98 February 2, 2015 at 6:14 pm -      #42

    If she was really omnipotent, why would she have gotten taken over by the Chaos Kin?

  43. Alpha or Omega February 2, 2015 at 6:18 pm -      #43

    “The game calling it life energy doesn’t make it life energy as we use it.”
    /
    Since when has there been a definitive term on what life energy is?
    There has been a varied answer on what life force, life energy, force, vitality, etc. is since it’s fiction. Made up.
    /
    “They mine the stuff from the Earth, it’s very specifically an element.”
    /
    By earth, you mean Zanza’s old body.
    /
    “Here, people can look and make up their own minds.”
    /
    Yeah, by looking at a wiki.
    How ’bout looking at a real source.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afy6KOXoIUY#t=189
    /
    “Like I said in the Percy thread, it’s more like mako from FF7 or mana from the Tales series. Stuff that isn’t life energy. Shulk should still be able to affect some people here- but not everyone.”
    /
    Mako doesn’t keep everyone alive, not a life force, and doesn’t dwell within living beings unless put in.
    /
    “This entire point might be slightly worthless- does anyone know if Palutena is actually omnipotent? If she is then… well, she’s omnipotent.”
    /
    I don’t recall anything that referred Palutena as omnipotent.

  44. Friendlysociopath February 2, 2015 at 6:36 pm -      #44

    Yeah, by looking at a wiki.
    How ’bout looking at a real source.


    Boy, it’s like the wiki uses terminology from the game.

    Since when has there been a definitive term on what life energy is?

    There isn’t, it’s actually a rather silly way of trying to make different powers interact just because.

    I don’t recall anything that referred Palutena as omnipotent.

    I’m thinking it was mentioned in one of the games, every site I’ve checked has described it exactly the same- leading me to believe it’s a quote. I’m hoping someone here has played it and can confirm or deny this.

    Mako doesn’t keep everyone alive, not a life force, and doesn’t dwell within living beings unless put in.

    finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Lifestream
    “Portions of the Lifestream are believed to be used to create new life on the Planet, and the energy of a person returns to the Planet when they die.”
    Sounds awfully similar to me.
    Stupid Smash Bros just fills all the links…

  45. Alpha or Omega February 2, 2015 at 10:38 pm -      #45

    “Boy, it’s like the wiki uses terminology from the game.”
    /
    By referring it as Ether instead of life energy and such.
    /
    “There isn’t, it’s actually a rather silly way of trying to make different powers interact just because.”
    /
    I’d chalk that up to EC rule in effect. Everyone is okay with the force suddenly appearing in opponents that don’t have the force. Why not the same for life energy?
    /
    “I’m thinking it was mentioned in one of the games, every site I’ve checked has described it exactly the same- leading me to believe it’s a quote. I’m hoping someone here has played it and can confirm or deny this.”
    /
    After playing the second game and Uprising, I don’t really see anything to prove this. Somehow, I think someone is misinterpreting all-seeing eye as omnipotent.
    Maybe it’s in a Nintendo Power as a source?
    /
    “Portions of the Lifestream are believed to be used to create new life on the Planet, and the energy of a person returns to the Planet when they die.”
    Sounds awfully similar to me.”
    /
    I’m going to be honest, that also sounds like life force to me with the way they are describing it.
    Heck, this is what the intro quote says.
    “The Lifestream. That’s what we call the river of life that circles our planet, giving life to the world and everything in it.” (FF VII Advent Children).

  46. pimpmage February 2, 2015 at 11:08 pm -      #46

    Guys, if you want to debate this, go back to the relevant debate. Please.

    Anyway, multiverse buster luigi seems to top the charts atm.

  47. OriginalA February 2, 2015 at 11:29 pm -      #47

    On Palutena:

    She’s in a bit of an odd spot. On the one hand, she really doesn’t do much in the Kid Icarus games. On the other hand, in the official KI short videos she does stuff that has … Implications.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=eehMTC24otY

    Here specifically shows it best. Palutena can, apparently, manifest herself to be the size of a mountain in the human realm. The short videos that involved Palutena cooking dinner also showed that she can use the same weapons that Pit uses, and those often have hilarious descriptions attached to them from a lore, so if she picks those up funny stuff can happen when mixed with her ability to be absurdly huge.

    She should be able to casually demolish a city with no effort. On the flip side, Pit is an incredibly powerful fighter for her despite the fact that we are shown that him terrorizing a city, while dangerous, isn’t going to destroy the whole city in seconds.

    Alternatively, Palutena lost a considerable amount of power after cursing Medusa and as a result she can’t grow to hilarious sizes anymore… but that is pure conjecture.

    Finally, quote or not, Palutena is not omnipotent. The plot of the first game is that Medusa captured Palutena and took over Skyworld and sent Palutena’s army (which included Pit) into the Underworld prison. Medusa shouldn’t be able to do that if Palutena was omnipotent. She will claim that she is a form of omniscience, but she will later laugh it off as a joke. She has limits.

  48. pimpmage February 2, 2015 at 11:38 pm -      #48

    “Alternatively, Palutena lost a considerable amount of power after cursing Medusa and as a result she can’t grow to hilarious sizes anymore… but that is pure conjecture.”

    OP states most powerful incarnation. So it goes.

  49. Friendlysociopath February 2, 2015 at 11:46 pm -      #49

    Anyway, multiverse buster luigi seems to top the charts atm.

    Explain please.

  50. pimpmage February 3, 2015 at 12:03 am -      #50

    In super paper mario, the third in the series; the final boss was called super dimento. It was a fusion of Luigi, Dimento, and the Chaos heart. The chaos heart was stated to have the power to end all dimensions or destroy the universe. Though its been a good many years since I played the game so I seriously doubt I can locate the relevant screenshots from a ‘lets play’ video on youtube.
    www.mariowiki.com/Super_Dimentio
    papermario.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Heart

    Also there is this:
    www.mariowiki.com/Star_Rod_%28Paper_Mario%29
    From paper mario 1. It has the power to grant any wishes the bearer wants. It would probably be used by bowser alone in this match though.

  51. Hermit February 3, 2015 at 12:30 am -      #51

    Master Hand.

  52. Ciridae Hunter February 3, 2015 at 12:43 am -      #52

    “If it’s harnessed as a power source in that world it’s not life energy”

    The residents of the Trigun universe use the life force of Plants as energy; it’s even stated (in the manga) that if Vash used all of his power (signified by his hair turning progressively black) he dies-Knives even absorbs other Plants for their energy.

    There are other examples, but those would take forever to list.

    Snake has brought down a lot of Metal Gears mostly on his own (God, I miss Grey Fox) and at one point had Fox’s energy rifle (was it called the Pulse Rifle..?) so he might be able to do some damage in the low-tier, though he would probably fall to the faster characters.

    Mewtwo is perhaps mid-tier since he can reconstruct matter (the island that he had a fit of Vegeta on), influence the weather of the world, and mind dominate people…the Smash game really brought him down a peg.

    For now, I shall creep in the sidelines.

  53. Ragnorke February 3, 2015 at 1:15 am -      #53

    “People have been complaining about the death of BankGambling ever since I joined, and I remember the Triumvirate, if only briefly. Just because there isn’t a big sci-fi fight every week doesn’t mean it’s dead. On that note: “Star Trek and Star Wars vs. Starcraft and Halo”? Could be interesting. Maybe we should go visit Star Trek vs. Stargate again…”

    I actually think it would be a good idea to have set days of the week for certain Genre types, where at least one of the characters in the match (preferably more) originate from that genre.
    Such as Sci Fi, Anime, Comics, Fantasy, etc…
    And said schedule should be made clear & promoted on the Front Page, for visitors to see.

    That way fans of that specific genre will be more inclined to join BankGambling & debate, because they have a guarantee that a match of their liking will be posted on a regular basis.

    The way it stands, it seems to be just us regulars that are debating, and most of us are just fans of.. well… everything.
    There’s no Niche users on here, which could really help out.

  54. Ragnorke February 3, 2015 at 1:18 am -      #54

    So, on the topic of this match, can Mewtwo really keep up with speedsters?

  55. pimpmage February 3, 2015 at 1:23 am -      #55

    I am reading that mewtwo caught hyper beams or some crap. Supposedly town level destruction mentioned by narutoforums.

  56. Commander Cross February 3, 2015 at 2:44 am -      #56

    I sent a few imaginative fights recently on board and I’m not sure why none of them are picked up either, not even the latest group fight I got up and running for that matter.

    Also, someone should do a respect thread or something to Roosterteeth and to The Oum family as well around here, I’ll go get some of the images ready if anyone wants in on it.

  57. The Ultimate Overlord February 3, 2015 at 5:26 am -      #57

    1. I did not see Megaman on that list. Doesn’t he have nuke durability.
    2. Are npcs included cause then Tabuu beats everyone with thanks to his off waves.

  58. Warlock Lowk February 3, 2015 at 5:54 am -      #58

    Who ever gets the baseball bat solos.
    ===
    “Also, someone should do a respect thread or something to Roosterteeth and to The Oum family as well around here, I’ll go get some of the images ready if anyone wants in on it.”

    Respect thread probably isn’t the type of thing you do for that. I mean ya hearts in the right place, monty was one of my favorite animators but maybe just a nice simple topic on the forum wishing them the well.

  59. Nsl98 February 3, 2015 at 9:34 am -      #59

    I don’t think nuke durability will help against some of the high tiers.

    Sonic could light speed ram him, Kirby could just punch him, and Donkey Kong has moon level strength.

  60. Spectral Observer February 3, 2015 at 3:36 pm -      #60

    I think that Mega Man can last somewhere in the mid-mid tiers in this match.

    First there’s the nuke durability thing that’s been mentioned, but the Blue Bomber has a lot more tricks up his sleeve, like teleportation and arguably supersonic movement speed. I suppose one could argue that Mega Man is just a bullet-timer with lower movement speed, since bullets are are portrayed as really slow in the games, but there are instances where he actually dodges sonic waves, so that makes it a bit more believable.

    In terms of hax, I think the MM2 load out is pretty hard to top with the Time Stopper and the Atomic Fire (burns at 12,000C), but then there are other games where he shoots Black Holes (MMV and MM9), absolute zero ice (MM&B and by extension any game he uses ice attacks), and MM10, where he shoots artificial suns at enemies. The only problem I see with the MM2 load out is that Rock doesn’t have the Charge Shot or Power Slide upgrades in that incarnation. It shouldn’t make much of a difference against characters like DK, who can be struck from a distance, but it makes winning against characters like Samus much more difficult without the added firepower/mobility options. Then again, he didn’t have those upgrades in Mega Man 10 either, and he was shooting down missiles while running on bigger missiles in that game.

    Speaking of which, Samus is likely going to be in her Metroid Fusion incarnation here, since that incarnation has the most Power Bombs, SUPER Diffusion Missiles (think Super Missiles that can AoE freeze targets) possibly the strongest Stacked Beam in the series, and definitely the strongest defensive suit stack in the entirety of the franchise. The only thing that might come close or surpass Samus’ endgame suit defenses in Fusion is the Hypermode overshield that she had in Metroid Prime 3. Even then, the one in Fusion probably still beats it since it’s passive whereas the Hypermode shielding lasts only a few seconds before automatically shutting down. Then there’s her Screw Attack and Speed Booster, making her that much harder to tag as long as her enemies aren’t absurdly beyond her tier like Sonic.

    The only downside I can possibly see over Samus being in her Fusion incarnation is that she doesn’t have her own ship in that game, and as such, may not get to call on it to exit the planet should anything drastic happen.

    Also, I think Ness is being overestimated a tad much in this match. Like Zelda’s Smash incarnation, Ness borrows a lot of his moves from other characters in his game. His only canon psi attacks are psi Rockin, which is an AoE blast of psychic energy, Flash, Shield, Healing, Lifeup, Paralysis, Hypnosis, and Teleportation. Other than that, he’s just a kid in terms of durability Ness’ only saving grace against other characters is his Franklin Badge, since it can reflect projectiles.

    Side note: I was really hoping that Sakurai would put in PK Rockin instead of Starstorm as Ness’ Final Smash, but ah well.

  61. Alpha or Omega February 3, 2015 at 4:37 pm -      #61

    Though it’s already been said about multiverse busting Chaos Hearts, it’s said to destroy all dimensions.
    Interesting thing is.
    Aside from the Mario universe and the other universes, this includes our universe which is an alternate dimension, and an afterlife for all video game characters. Scary huh…Not really.
    /
    Anyway, though he’s able to destroy multiverses, remove his invulnerability with the Pure Hearts and he now has the same durability as regular Luigi.

  62. Ellie Williams February 3, 2015 at 7:59 pm -      #62

    After not posting for months, Ellie Williams is back! Does anyone miss me? No? :-( :-( :-(

    Anyway, I’m pretty sure Snake can snipe people like Captain Falcon. They don’t exactly have any durability feats. Shulk can reset the universe, so he should be in a high tier.

    Off Topic, but did you guys hear? Monty Oum died. You know, the guy who made Haloid, Dead Fantasy, and RWBY? Now he’ll never finish Dead Fantasy! :-( :-( :-(

  63. Rorschach February 6, 2015 at 5:15 am -      #63

    Duck Hunt Dog solos.

    Aside from that, I guess it’s my turn to come back for a bit.

    Alright, I’ll be serious now. Game and Watch solos. If he gets a 9 on Judge, or a full oil panic, it’s a one shot.

    In regards to the debate at hand, the real fight is between the determined high tiers and if they are able to defeat each other.

    Regardless of their abilities, all that matters is who is left standing on the final destination map after the last player has fallen.

  64. Mea quidem sententia February 7, 2015 at 5:51 pm -      #64

    I’ve been doing this since Super Smash Bros. Brawl came out. I’m doing this again in another thread at Smash World Forums. Currently, I’ve been debating with a fellow named Munomario777 concerning Sonic’s light speed dash and light speed attack.

    Let me put it this way. For the wavelength of a photon, using 1 g and 180 degrees, I ended up with 1.041 * 10^-8 Hz. Taking this and multiplying it by Planck’s constant gave me 6.898 * 10^-42 kg m^2/s^2, which is understood as joules. That’s not a lot of energy.

    I divided this by c, since E/c gives me relativistic momentum. I ended up with 2.301 * 10^-50 newtons. What this mean is the light speed attack wouldn’t harm anyone on the Smash roster. This, of course, assumes Sonic becomes massless. I worked with photons, since the name “light speed attack” suggests light.

    Perhaps light doesn’t behave the same way in the Sonicverse as it does in our universe. If it does, my reasoning for Sonic’s ability to destroy objects using light speed attack would be that light speed attack is a combination of Sonic’s light speed dash and homing attack. What this would mean is that Sonic closes the gap traveling light speed while massless, and then regains mass as he’s about to collide into his opponents.

    The damage from this attack would then be the same as if Sonic was just using his homing attack. The only difference is Sonic would be difficult to harm. Well, in Samus’ case, Samus can withstand 61,740 newtons from shinesparking alone, if we take the low-end of the speed booster to actually be Mach 2. (Again, the MZM and MF manuals speak of speeds in plural.)

    Sonic’s mass is 35 kg., and traveling at Mach 5 (his low-end, being the “hypersonic hedgehog” according to one of the manuals) would allow him to generate 60,025 newtons. So he’s close, but if he wants to harm Samus, he’ll have to rely on something other than speed.

    The light speed dash is brief, so Sonic isn’t actually constantly running the speed of light. I think Mega Man has a better chance against Samus.

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