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Unless I’m missing some obscure Revan feat, he gets cosmic roflstomped.
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Superstomp for superman.
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i can only assume that the creator hates revan.
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It said at their strongest so that would be The Supe Above All:
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Good lord, this is almost as bad as Superman vs Master Chief. Superman Squashes Revan before he can think. The end.
@Sadot
Huh. Only took 4 comments for someone to exploit the loophole.
I am a firm defender of Revan, but unless he had prep time he has no chance to WIN, but he still can survive and return. Lately, in the boss fight in SOR in SWTOR, he took on many powerful characters at once. While losing, it still was a tough fight. This feat alone shows him to be among the most powerful in Star Wars EU.
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Still, if Revan attacked Supes head on he would get crushed by Supes superior strength EVENTUALLY. Revan moves at an extreme speed, as shown when he battled the emperor in his novel. Still, Supes is no slow-poke and will hit him eventually, cracking all of Revan’s bones.
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The only way for Revan to survive is to dodge Superman, use force stun ( assuming he has this ability, and if not, force shield/bubble) and force fold as shown at the Foundry. Of course this is BankGambling, so there is no escaping. Therefore, Supes wins.
“I am a firm defender of Revan, but unless he had prep time he has no chance to WIN, but he still can survive and return. Lately, in the boss fight in SOR in SWTOR, he took on many powerful characters at once. While losing, it still was a tough fight. This feat alone shows him to be among the most powerful in Star Wars EU.
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Still, if Revan attacked Supes head on he would get crushed by Supes superior strength EVENTUALLY. Revan moves at an extreme speed, as shown when he battled the emperor in his novel. Still, Supes is no slow-poke and will hit him eventually, cracking all of Revan’s bones.
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The only way for Revan to survive is to dodge Superman, use force stun ( assuming he has this ability, and if not, force shield/bubble) and force fold as shown at the Foundry. Of course this is BankGambling, so there is no escaping. Therefore, Supes wins.”
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Most powerful incarnation of Supes is One Million, in which case he literally will blink Revan out of existence. The second most powerful version of Supes is the one that can destroy a Solar System by sneezing. Revan will cease to exist faster than can be comprehended.
“The second most powerful version of Supes is the one that can destroy a Solar System by sneezing.”
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Thought Robot Supes says hi! –
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IIRC That’s either the DC multiverse or universe.
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Then there’s Superman One Million.
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Then Superman Prime
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Silver Age Superman can do all of the crazy shit mentioned and a whole mess of other things. Like “move all the planets out of a galaxy” kind of thing. “Drill through the earth 5000 times in one second” kind of thing. “Maybe get a teeny-bit scared by the entire mass of a galaxy” kind of thing. He’s off-the-wall bonkers and broken in every respect.
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Even if we only go with N52 Superman, he’s flown across the galaxy and flown through black holes, which easily puts him into FTL ranges. He’s lifted the weight of Earth, moved Brainiac’s ship that was BIGGER than Earth, and punched H’el so hard the entire Earth shook. Now, his durability is a little unknown, but considering he didn’t break his hand when punching H’el, it kinda implies he could survive strikes of that nature.
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“Revan moves at an extreme speed, as shown when he battled the emperor in his novel. Still, Supes is no slow-poke and will hit him eventually, cracking all of Revan’s bones.”
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Revan is nowhere close to Superman’s speed. Revan is physically incapable of dodging Superman, and will instantly die the moment Superman destroys both him and the continent they are on.
I don’t want to be rude, but this match is even worse than my matches. And that’s really bad. How could anybody not know that this could only end in stomp is beyong me.
Why do you hate Revan, @tancalebner? He was awesome before retcon and still somewhat not bad character.
“Silver Age Superman can do all of the crazy shit mentioned and a whole mess of other things.”
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Golden Superman/SMP1M or Thought Robot Superman are still above him. Superman Prime and Superman One Million are probably above him in power as well.
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“moved Brainiac’s ship that was BIGGER than Earth”
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He was infected with the Doomsday Virus at the time.
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“Now, his durability is a little unknown”
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IIRC N52 Supes survived the explosion of 230 planets, or something that destroyed that. I think Lowk posted it somewhere.
@CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets
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“IIRC N52 Supes survived the explosion of 230 planets, or something that destroyed that. I think Lowk posted it somewhere.”
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His durability is already this good? Strange, I read several threads on comicvine and New52 Superman lost to a lot of characters from Toriko and currently not winning against Saitama.
But such durability is nice. I’l suggest Superman and Thor vs Bills from DB and Uriel from Bastard!, should make for a good battle.
@Rookie Could be wrong, I just remembering Lowk(probably Lowk)mentioning that somewhere. Probably Supes vs Thor or something.
@CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets
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Maybe I am the one who is wrong though.
I learned about New52 Super stats from these threads:
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www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/ichiryu-vs-new-52-superman-1620105/
www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/saitama-onepunch-man-vs-superman-52-753458/
www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/monkey-king-bambina-vs-new-52-superman-1619122/
www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/toriko-and-midora-vs-superman-and-darkseid-1619942/
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To me they look like reasonable. But again I could be wrong.
Can we talk about most equal versions and incarnations of Superman at least until further notice?
There’s still the Live-Action versions of Superman we can talk about unless some of the Animated versions of Supes are actually weaker than their Live Action counterparts.
Even then, against the most equal incarnations of Supes possible it’s most likely Supes’ fight to lose unless Revan can hit Supes with a Lightsaber or any Cosmic-type weapon he could find on hand.
Reven rarely gets any worthwhile fights around here, and even more rarely gets any at 100% Maximum Power, but for crying outloud, tell me the fight suggester has most equal versions and incarnations of Supes in mind as a potential stipulation.
@Commander Cross
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“Revan rarely gets any worthwhile fights around here”
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I myself blame his retcon personally. He is less interesting character now, so not many people will bother with finding a good match for him.
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“but for crying outloud, tell me the fight suggester has most equal versions and incarnations of Supes in mind as a potential stipulation.”
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You will have to ask @tancalebner about but to me this looks like a stomp match idea.
Found it.
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Multispear takes out 230 planets
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Superman survives an attack from that. Lowk posted the links, but they’ve been broken for a while now it seems.
By the way how is the battle between two big bad of Bioware sounds for everyone? We can even give them their dragons too.
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If someone don’t know about who I am talking about: dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Corypheus
vs
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@CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets
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Huh… I wonder why no one on comicvine used it in Superman battle against Saitama.
Is this really New 52 Superman and not some of his alternative versions?
I mean Helspont damaged him badly with much less attack force.
AFAIK it’s N52. Pretty sure that was the incarnation being debated there. You’d have to ask Lowk.
@CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets
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“AFAIK it’s N52. Pretty sure that was the incarnation being debated there. You’d have to ask Lowk.”
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Ok, Lowk will eventually show sooner or later, I can wait.
Really interesting.
Yeah it was regular current N52. Vyndvxireallyhate5Dimp’snames used it against him. He was pretty banged up but he survived it.
@Warlock Lowk
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“Yeah it was regular current N52. Vyndvxireallyhate5Dimp’snames used it against him. He was pretty banged up but he survived it.”
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Thanks!
Strange why is he lost to Ichiryu and Midora and not winning against Saitama then…
No Rookie I don’t hate Darth Revan in fact I was just reading up on him on Wookiepedia and I was thinking of a way in which I could present this on BankGambling. I understand this is a stomp, so for now let’s roll with the live action version of Superman. I obviously should have thought about what incarnations of Superman I should have used… I am sorry for this error.
What did revan do to deserve this? No srsly what?
In fact I may do a little more research and find a suitable opponent for Revan that still has their EU going for them and ask for it to be posted… Again I’m very sorry for this incident…
MoS Supes broke the sound barrier.
Also, level of destruction:
www.zap2it.com/blogs/man_of_steel_how_much_did_superman_and_zods_fight_cost_metropolis-2013-06
“MoS Supes broke the sound barrier.”
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Iirc the novelization hinted at him hitting hypersonic when he rushed Zod.
@Lowk
Are movie novelizations canon?
So, I was reading up on Revan, and it said that he could he could also sense danger in advance and predict future events. Is pre cog as good as Luke’s? And what’s his best reaction feat?
“Unless I’m missing some obscure Revan feat, he gets cosmic roflstomped.”
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Its comments like that, that make me wish BankGambling had a like button.
“I understand this is a stomp, so for now let’s roll with the live action version of Superman. ”
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Still could be saved though. As to which Supes you should use I’d recommend one from an animated film or show. Like JL Supes or something. Granted, don’t know what the Sith Lord can do, but I’m assuming he can’t dish out destruction on a 20KT level or react at super(possibly hyper)sonic speeds.
“Granted, don’t know what the Sith Lord can do, but I’m assuming he can’t dish out destruction on a 20KT level or react at super(possibly hyper)sonic speeds.”
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Revan doesn’t have many clear cut feats honestly. I’ll list what I do know though.
During the Mandalorian wars he pulled down a Mandalorian Dreadnought from orbit, decent range and strength for TK.
His force lightning straight up disintegrated a member of the Dark Council, I’m positive there’s a calc floating around this site for a similar feat.
In SWTOR I believe he was throwing around meteors for the boss fight.
I’ve no idea if he can replicate it, but he did experience Oneness at one point apparently.
Then we get to all his force powers, this guy is the definition of versatile.
He also has one of the longest wiki pages I’ve seen, Jesus Christ. Anyway after much digging.
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” Beginner Powers
This is the first tier of all possible Force Powers, most of these are available at the first level of Jedi.
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Universal Powers
Burst of Speed
Energy Resistance
Force Push
Throw Lightsaber
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Light Side
Force Aura
Force Valor
Stun
Stun Droid
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Dark Side
Wound
Slow
Fear
Shock
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Intermediate Powers
This is the second tier of available force powers. (Note that the first tier of powers that only have two options are placed here, since most of these are only available at intermediate levels.)
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Universal Powers
Knight Speed
Force Resistance
Improved Energy Resistance
Affect Mind
Force Whirlwind
Force Suppression
Adv Throw Lightsaber
Force Camouflage- (Character-specific)
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Light Side
Cure
Force Shield
Knight Valor
Stasis
Disable Droid
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Dark Side
Choke
Affliction
Horror
Force Lightning
Drain Life
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Advanced Powers
This the final and most powerful tier of force powers available. Most are not available until after level 15.
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Universal Powers
Master Speed
force Immunity
Master Energy Resistance
Force Wave
Force Breach
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Light Side
Heal
Force Armor
Master Valor
Stasis Field
Destroy Droid
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Dark Side
Kill
Plague
Insanity
Force Storm
Death Field”
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He uses both Heal and Force Storm in later showings, so we can see he reached the heights of both Light and Dark.
He also has one of the best Pre-cog and farsight of Jedi/Sith, which he will need to avoid a speedblitz.
If this is MoS version, if he avoids an initial blitz he could probably put Clarky into stasis or outright fuck with his mind to minimize future blitzing.
Stasis, Plague and Insanity could cripple MoS Supes, not sure about the animated versions.
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That’s all the time I can spare for this anyway.
@nsl98
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” Is pre cog as good as Luke’s”
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No. He is good, but retcon did lower his powers and abilities a bit.He still can disintegrate someone with lighting though.
Luke is on another level.
But Revan is on solid Mace Windu level even with retcon.
@Tancalebner
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“No Rookie I don’t hate Darth Revan in fact I was just reading up on him on Wookiepedia and I was thinking of a way in which I could present this on BankGambling.”
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Then why put him against Superman? Why kill him?
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starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Caedus
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Krayt
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mace_Windu
(Using false canon, EU canon of course)
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Just to give you idea about fair opponent for Revan.
@CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets
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“but I’m assuming he can’t dish out destruction on a 20K”
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Yep he can’t without force shield (and Revan’s force shielding abilities always were not great)
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” react at super(possibly hyper)sonic speeds.”
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Some of them are close to FTL (using Force). Revan is not one of them though, so he lose.
Superman from the animated series would have probably been a more reasonable incarnation.
Is there more info on the retcon? All I can find is it changed his fall to the Dark Side and nothing more. Feats before and after that should still apply.
Most versions of animated JL Supes have done things like lifted 1/6th the weight of earth with a single hand.
Or took multiple circles around earth in a race against flash.
He has some other good feats too. Better than the movie incarnation.
I’m talking about the 90s Animated Series.
@TheSorrow
I’ll look it up ^^
I guess technically 90s Animated Superman did race Flash, but the race wasn’t nearly as impressive as the comic book versions.
Season 2 episode 4
I believe the race was: first person to circle the earth 5 times wins.
But tbh they didn’t look to be moving that fast…
Not at all, but I think that’s partly because they didn’t want to go completely Silver Age on us in terms of how powerful Superman should be portrayed. His feats overall were pretty mild. It got better in the Justice League seasons, but no where near the levels that the comics would show.
@rookie
Putting him against someone from his own universe is kinda boring… What about Revan Vs Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) or would that be overkill as well…
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The reason why I’m trying to put him up to other powerful players is because I read that he was or is the most powerful Jedi/Sith…
Hal Jordan held back a supernova, and condensed a star by pressurizing it down to the atom.
Don’t try to match Starwars characters against comic superheroes. Terrible idea.
Unless you wanna use the Earth based heroes like Wolverine, Spiderman, etc etc.
If comics don’t work there is always anime.
just don’t go DBZ, it’s basically comics in anime form.
@Lowk
Supes shits on Goku. All day, everyday.
Let’s not even get into people like Martian manhunter or captain atom.
@Tancalebner
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“What about Revan Vs Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) or would that be overkill as well…”
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You do hate Revan after all.
@Ragnorke
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“Supes shits on Goku. All day, everyday.”
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Yeah, I agree.
I never really understood why people even think that Goku can take on Superman.
They probably are thinking about the Justice League version of Superman.
I never really understood why people even think that Goku can take on Superman.
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What Sorrow said, most people who call them even go off of much weaker incarnations of Superman.
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Hell, ye old WW2 era Superman got knocked out by a plane falling on him and was getting his ass kicked by a large gorilla, I have the old cartoons.
“Supes shits on Goku.”
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What does that have to do with what I said?
The Live-Action or Animated versions of Supes, Goku has a shot, most Comic Book!-versions of Regular!-Supes I’d recall has him outdone for better or worse though as it is. T___T’
Original!-Tenchi Masaki on the other hand(Post-OVA 3 incarnations and barring the Kami Form for obvious reasons!) breaks the backs of most versions of Regular!-Superman as well, and gives the Non-Standard versions of Comic!-Supes a run for their moolah, His Auto-Shields in the Light Hawk Wings will help make sure of that.
616 Sorcerer Supreme Doctor Strange and admittedly Post-Timeskip Dark Schneider can pretty much do the same thing as well, albeit by different means beyond also having FTL mobility and Auto-Shielding of their own for show, and the latter’s also from Manga and Anime as well, since he’s from Bastard!? the last I checked.
As noted before, a 3-way smackdown between the above would read like a showdown between just the Kanto Starter Pokemon at their strongest possible forms all over again, only be even more Destructive about it and make it look like ‘Tip of the Iceberg stuff from another Ballpark’s stroll at Boot Camp’, really.
Granted in regards to Supes in general, I can see One of the 3 people listed try to be more merciful on Supes as much as possible, at least another of the 3’s prepared to Overkill Supes something fierce, and the last one I can’t quite recall possible reactions on Supes, other than do NOT DIE by Supes’ hands, whatever he does.
Bottom line: All 3 of them are capable of duking it out with Supes and all 3 of them have the Supernatural Power and Means to Hit Supes with said Power to begin with.
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Also, if we didn’t pick the most equal versions of Superman possible for a Revan at 100% Maximum Power to fight against, then admittedly Supes winds up doing to Revan what I’d admit Revan may do to Tom Riddle eventually and the only thing worth disputing is the exact how and when of it in fact.
Which is more or less worth saying ‘Oh for Crying Outloud!!!’ on top of the overdue statement of ‘Nu Wai, Dis Iz Uh Kool Fyte, Wai Nu Won Suhjusted Ut Yut?’ and like watching a miniaturized 300 vs Mortal Kombat all over again.
Which is being generous.
Also, what Lightsaber Customizing is Revan allowed to do for said versions of Supes he can fight?
@Commander Cross
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“Also, what Lightsaber Customizing is Revan allowed to do for said versions of Supes he can fight?”
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How can custom lightsaber help? AFAIK no matter what he do it’s still be as effective as spoon for example):
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDvgL58h_Y
@Lowk
“What does that have to do with what I said?”
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Kinda thought you meant Dbz can fight the comic superheroes. My bad :3
“Thought Robot Supes says hi! –”
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I love that scan’s implications, that he’s reaching right out of the panel and looking straight at the reader. He’s so powerful that the very media he’s portrayed in can’t contain him.
Maybe scale it back a bit. How about Revan v Superboy? His powers are basically a waterdown version of superman’s replicated via TK.
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Or Kerrigan, I hear she’s pretty up there.
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Or Gideon Wyeth from Advent Rising. He sort of like starkiller before there was a starkiller. He’s got TK, cryokinesis, and superhuman physical traits, and superspeed via a little fuckery(slow/speed up).
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How about vs a group like some Protoss from Starcraft or Tenno from warframe. Superpowered warrior who still use melee weapons in a futuristic setting. Tenno can even do the whole deflecting projectiles thing jedi/sith do.
Does anyone remember that Jackie Chan adventures cartoon from like a decade ago? There were talismans that granted all sorts of powers. Ranging from telekinesis and super strength to (flawed)invulnerability and super speed. All very low tier boosts, but really unique.
jackiechanadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Talismans
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It would be pretty sweet to see a match with these involved.
Oh, and another show called Xiaolin Showdown had a similar armament.
xiaolinpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Shen_Gong_Wu
“Does anyone remember that Jackie Chan adventures cartoon from like a decade ago?”
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Yes!
Quite liked that show… But… It sorta went jar jar binks on itself in the later seasons.
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But yea, it definitely had alot of interesting powers. I’d like to see a match of it.
“Oh, and another show called Xiaolin Showdown had a similar armament.”
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^ this too.
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Just copy paste what I said in the last post :3
As much as I like SW and hate Supes (mostly), 99% of Supes’ incarnations godstomp Revan.
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As for Goku vs Supes, most people think Goku can match him because they have only seen low-level supes incarnations and Goku, by the completely infallible science of power scaling, is a planet buster w/ teleportation and hypersonic movement and r/t. Still no match for the majority of Supes’ incarnations, but no slouch either.
@Harbinger of Pastries at #64
I don’t mind Star Wars at a personal regard either(and Ancient Star Wars bleeds Epic Win) I’d gun for Tenchi Muyo more personally, myself, but even I will admit that depending on which incarnation of Supes we’re talking about, Kagato might be hard-pressed to deal with some versions of Supes.
Still in any case, it’d trouble me if a Lightsaber don’t work too well on any version of Supes we can think of, what about the Young Justice!-version of Regular!-Supes?
Does Revan stand a shot against that version of Supes?
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Just in case, keep Goku as many Galaxies away from Superman Gold as possible and it might be fine.
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Have you heard of Skype by any chance?
You could be found if you’re on board there.
Does anyone remember that Jackie Chan adventures cartoon from like a decade ago?
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Been thinking of submitting a Jackie Chan vs Dwayne Johnson match, all movie and tv roles allowed. Thought it’d be funny.
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I’d have to ban Black Adam though, that’s just not fair- none of Jackie’s incarnations have that level of power.
“I’d have to ban Black Adam though”
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I was about to say.
Also still weird when he plays the villian.
@CC
“what about the Young Justice!-version of Regular!-Supes?
Does Revan stand a shot against that version of Supes?”
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Don’t know, I haven’t had a chance to check out Young Justice yet.
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“Have you heard of Skype by any chance?”
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I have Skype , yes.
@Harbinger of Pastries at #68
I need to see more about Young Justice in general before I can see about getting back to you about it though.
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Then I’d hope we may talk sometime out-of-BankGambling over there, we have A LOT to talk about.
IF I can find you that is, which would be easier said than done nowadays.
Find Diogunner on skype and you have a chance to find me, okay?
@CC
You have been added.
@Harbinger of Pastries
If you already found me, feel free to contact me on Skype ASAP, and tell NO ONE my account name for that matter, you hear me?
Also, does Revan have a shot against Smallville!-Superman by chance?
I don’t know, guys. Revan is a pretty cool guy. Eh mastered both sides of the Force, and doesn’t afraid of anything.
Man. Revan is like one of my favorites. But Supes is just… He just… It’s over the second it starts. But if we do go with a MUCH weaker version of Superman… Revan MAY have a chance.
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Though we’d have to find a version of superman that isn’t very fast… So that Revan doesn’t get blitzed. Then we also need this version to be vulnerable to the force, specifically mind and or soul fuckery. Though I’m not sure Revan could kill him with the mind/soul fuckery… We may also need a version of supes that can be hurt by lightsabers… So when you guys think of the version of Superman that has all of those particular flaws… Revan might be able to do it…
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What if… The crystal that is in Revan’s saber is kryptonite…? And then… we still weaken superman…? Then we have a… fair… fight..?
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This whole thing just makes me sad. Revan is awesome, but he’s been nerfed. We need an UBER force user to give even decently powerful versions of superman any trouble. Even if we combine Nihilus, Naga Sadow, Palpatine and Bane… That force god probably still gets speed blitzed…