Captain Rex Vs Master Chief

Captain Rex Vs Master Chief

Suggested by Stronghold

Captain Rex from Star Wars goes up against Master Chief (Halo).

Each fighter gets their standard equipment.

Fight takes place in Venice, Italy.

Who will win this battle?

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74 Comments on "Captain Rex Vs Master Chief"

  1. Tancalebner November 28, 2014 at 7:00 am -      #1

    Overall I like Captain Rex a whole lot more than Chief but Chief is just overall a whole lot faster and stronger, mainly due to his armor…

  2. Rookie November 28, 2014 at 7:36 am -      #2

    Chief wins. Rex is good, but not this good.

  3. pimpmage November 28, 2014 at 8:17 am -      #3

    The latest incarnation of chief has malfunctioning armor. As seen in that trailer, its probably not even powered.

  4. LadyRamkin November 28, 2014 at 8:45 am -      #4

    Don’t star wars blasters have ridiculous levers of firepower? Don’t actually know, just something i heard.
    Also the clones took out the Jedi, They must be able to keep up with some really fast guys. I don’t actually know much about either character so that’s it for me, BYE 😀

  5. Stronghold November 28, 2014 at 10:56 am -      #5

    I think if Rex plays his cards right he can win this.

  6. Jake_Uzumaki November 28, 2014 at 11:09 am -      #6

    Well in the cg series we see Rex usually carries a specific set of equipment and has customized standard gear after the shift to Phase 2 clone gear.
    He has:
    2 DC-17 blaster pistols kept in customized quickdraw holsters, so he’s got two heavy blaster pistols. For comparison we’ve seen Han’s heavy blaster pistol take large chunks out of rock walls in Mos Eisley and Cad Bane’s dual heavy pistols destroy stone pillars and metal plating. img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111022053847/starwars/images/e/e3/RexPhase2Leap-SWE.jpg

    A DC-15S Blaster Carbine
    img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080427033310/starwars/images/a/a3/Appo.jpg

    Thermal Detonators rangefinder night vision mode in his helmet, built in binoculars, a holoprojector, he wore self customized armor that was a mixture of the best parts of phase 1 and 2 Clone Trooper armor.

    I think I remember something about Clone Wars era blasters having an ion cannon/blaster like effect (ie being able to shut down electronics) but I’m not sure.

  7. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets November 28, 2014 at 1:35 pm -      #7

    What armor ability is considered “standard?” Does he even get one? Is the city empty or crowded(I always ask this unless OP mentions it’s empty. Especially since it’s in a city of a population of 270,000)
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    Well, I can’t see bullets piercing through Rex’s armor, so I’m guessing he’s going to have to go hand to hand.
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    Venice is probably going to allow for a lot of guerrilla warfare. Which Chief happens to do really well. Unless the two of them stand right next to each other, I say MC ends up sneaking around the city till he finds Rex and then just jumps him from the shadows and breaks his neck.

  8. Friendlysociopath November 28, 2014 at 1:35 pm -      #8

    The latest incarnation of chief has malfunctioning armor. As seen in that trailer, its probably not even powered.

    2. Battle Incarnations
    All combatants are considered to be at their current incarnations, or most recent incarnation prior to death and/or incapacitation that would prevent them from engaging in battle at optimum efficiency, within their own continuities unless otherwise specified by the battle’s scenario.

  9. Warlock Lowk November 28, 2014 at 2:25 pm -      #9

    Chief is a fairly decent aim dodger. Did Rex have any physical enhancements in speed. If not he might have a hard time just hitting chief.

  10. the_man_with The_Answers November 28, 2014 at 2:33 pm -      #10

    “The latest incarnation of chief has malfunctioning armor. As seen in that trailer, its probably not even powered.”

    Since when was latest incarnation based on teaser trailers?

    Also, the helmet is cracked, so suddenly his armor is so broken it isn’t even powered? $50 bucks says Chief’s armor is even more speedy in Halo 5, as we’ve already seen Halo 5 beta gameplay, and Halo multiplayer/campaign gameplay generally matches almost exactly.. Which means Chief is likely going to have all sorts of extra thruster abilities.

  11. pimpmage November 28, 2014 at 3:11 pm -      #11

    I assumed his armor is currently without power since he is covering up with a cloak to ward off the heat. His armor is known to be fairly insulated from both heat and the cold given his space adventures and quotes from the books that his armor had a gel layer that both regulates his temperature and staves away compression. Something Is definitely wrong with his armor of he is using a cloak in the desert and his helmet is cracked

  12. the_man_with The_Answers November 28, 2014 at 3:16 pm -      #12

    “I assumed his armor is currently without power since he is covering up with a cloak to ward off the heat.”

    What said that? 343i said he was wearing the cloak because he was “hiding” himself from someone or something. Nothing about heat issues, or armor issues.

    The Helmet crack might have come from his most recent encounter with the Didact. Which didn’t cause any issues to the rest of his armor.

  13. pimpmage November 28, 2014 at 3:20 pm -      #13

    Never in any of the halo books I have read mention Spartans covering themselves while using their armor. Only in training did they cover themselves head to toe with coal dust to hide in dark spaces.

  14. Jake_Uzumaki November 28, 2014 at 3:55 pm -      #14

    @Lowk
    not that I know of, though “canon” information on Rex is sparse, if Stronghold could clarify use of EU or not I’d feel more confident looking up info on Rex since its hard to figure out whats EU and not with him.

  15. Alpha or Omega November 28, 2014 at 4:04 pm -      #15

    In Halo the Master Chief collection, Agent Locke mentioned John 117 going AWOL so I’m pretty sure that he has a justification for the cloak.
    It’s pretty clear that Chief is hiding as it has been mentioned outside of the Master Chief collection as well.
    The cloak is just there to hide Master Chief.
    Besides, he kinda looks cool in a cloak.

  16. the_man_with The_Answers November 28, 2014 at 5:39 pm -      #16

    “Never in any of the halo books I have read mention Spartans covering themselves while using their armor. Only in training did they cover themselves head to toe with coal dust to hide in dark spaces.”

    Brown matches a lot better in the desert than green. But 343i literally proclaimed that he’s wearing the cloak because he’s trying to conceal himself.

  17. Neon Lord November 28, 2014 at 6:03 pm -      #17

    Does EMP work on Mjolnir? Because Rex should be carrying one or two EMP grenades on him.

  18. pimpmage November 28, 2014 at 6:21 pm -      #18

    I recall their suits being emp proof. Covenant ship based plasma weapons are electromagnetically guided. Those things have exploded and flown close by spartans in their suits with no effect other than making their skin bubble a bit.. Hell, remember that scene in halo 1 where you get your armor charged up the first time? They basically zapped the shit out of you to jumpstart your shields.

  19. Jake_Uzumaki November 28, 2014 at 6:23 pm -      #19

    have those plasma weapons ever shut down any tech?

  20. pimpmage November 28, 2014 at 6:41 pm -      #20

    Not that I know of, covenant ships have survived space nuke mine traps before, they come out shooting right away regardless.

  21. Jake_Uzumaki November 28, 2014 at 6:48 pm -      #21

    Covenant ships aren’t UNSC ground technology though and is irrelevant to the question of MC’s EMP resistance as far as I know. So have we ever seen their ground weapons have any form of EMP effect on any UNSC ground technology of any kind.

  22. OberHerr November 28, 2014 at 7:13 pm -      #22

    Plasma pistols, when charged, give off an EMP powerful enough to shut down things like a Scorpion tank for a little while. One shot does this. The only effect it has on Mjolnir is it strips the shields. And the shields do recharge shortly after.

  23. pimpmage November 28, 2014 at 7:14 pm -      #23

    Dude, as I have explained earlier, Covenant electromagnetically guide plasma had no effects on the electronic integrity of spartan armor. Many occasions I have read of MC getting splashed by plasma weaponry while cortana is giving him suit integrity reports alongside battlefield information. Same goes with space walks. A covenant ship based plasma weapon splashed nearby a group of spartans walking outside of a ship to make a hull repair mid space battle. It killed one instantly and sizzled the skin of all the rest of the group. Their comms systems as well as their magnetic boots(for walking along the outside of a moving ship) tech stayed intact.

  24. Jake_Uzumaki November 28, 2014 at 7:41 pm -      #24

    “Dude, as I have explained earlier, Covenant electromagnetically guide plasma had no effects on the electronic integrity of spartan armor”

    That’s nice
    now please point out if it HAS affected anything that’s not a Spartan, just saying it’s electromagnetically guided does not automatically mean it is an EMP

    @Ober
    okay so it won’t shut down the armor but will strip the shields

  25. Darth Bombad November 28, 2014 at 8:10 pm -      #25

    EMP’s can temporarily drop Chiefs energy shields as seen by the..

    Plasma Pistol: halo.wikia.com/wiki/Type-25_Directed_Energy_Pistol

    Grenade Launcher: halo.wikia.com/wiki/M319_Individual_Grenade_Launcher

    Power Drain: halo.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Drain

    And Armor Lock: halo.wikia.com/wiki/Armor_Lockup

    Rex’s Droid Poppers should work just fine.

  26. Tancalebner November 28, 2014 at 8:17 pm -      #26

    @Darth
    Agreed, a droid popper has been shown to knock out an entire tank… However I hardly believe that Rex carries them standard issue…

  27. the_man_with The_Answers November 28, 2014 at 8:28 pm -      #27

    “That’s nice
    now please point out if it HAS affected anything that’s not a Spartan, just saying it’s electromagnetically guided does not automatically mean it is an EMP”

    Grey Team detonated an “EMP nuke” in close proximity and all it did was cause their HUD to fuzz for about half a second as the EMP wave washed through.

  28. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets November 28, 2014 at 8:46 pm -      #28

    “I think I remember something about Clone Wars era blasters having an ion cannon/blaster like effect (ie being able to shut down electronics) but I’m not sure.”

    Source?
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    So, how good at fighting stealthy characters is Rex? Cus Chief’s pretty good at stealth, and a town filled with places to hide I’d imagine Chief just ends up stealth killing Rex.
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    What type of clone is Rex? IIRC Commandos, ARCS, and Nulls were the only ones that were physically enhanced beyond normal human limits. If he’s not one of those I have to wonder if Rex can even really hit him in the first place.

  29. Epicazeroth November 28, 2014 at 9:31 pm -      #29

    @CH1C: Rex is a normal trooper. However – assuming this is EU – he underwent training in the ARC Training Program and is noted to actually be better than the Clone Commandos.
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    Aside from that, does anyone know if Clone armor gives enhancements?

  30. GMoney November 28, 2014 at 9:32 pm -      #30

    If Chief’s standard weapons are only human ones Id say that Rex has the firepower advantage, but Chief is the superior soldier. If it comes down to a straight fire fight I’ll bet on Rex, but it Chief plays his cards right he should win.

  31. Tancalebner November 28, 2014 at 9:38 pm -      #31

    I disagree… Rex was quite literally born and bred to fight and was trained in way more advanced programs than Chief. I believe Rex is the better soldier…

  32. Super Combine November 28, 2014 at 9:45 pm -      #32

    [i]”in way more advanced programs than Chief. I believe Rex is the better soldier…”[/i]

    Did those advanced programs teach him to go into combat toting a pistol in each hand like an ’80s action movie hero instead of a rifle like a real soldier?

  33. Tancalebner November 28, 2014 at 9:51 pm -      #33

    No every soldier was trained the same… He CHOSE to use dual pistols as did many clones in command: Ponds, Stone, Fives, Echo… And your definition of a real soldier is obviously flawed as you don’t need a physical gun to be such a person…

  34. Darth Bombad November 28, 2014 at 9:52 pm -      #34

    I agree with Tancalebner Rex has this in everything but a straight fist fight.

    @super combine
    I don’t know does chiefs?. mygaming.co.za/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/halo-2.jpg

  35. Tancalebner November 28, 2014 at 9:54 pm -      #35

    I believe if Rex and Chief were in the same general armor, that Rex would win however that is not the fight…

  36. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets November 28, 2014 at 10:01 pm -      #36

    “he underwent training in the ARC Training Program”

    That’s fine and all, but as far as I know Clone Commandos, Nulls, and ARCs are specifically stated to be physically superior to normal humans(to an unknown extent)while typical clones are peak human I believe(it was stated somewhere in Republic Commando books).

    Which I’m just realizing is EU so therefore noncanon. Are there any canon mentions of physical enhancements done to clones in canon?
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    ” is noted to actually be better than the Clone Commandos.”

    He could be more efficient, but doesn’t mean he’s as physically strong, tough, fast, or smart as they are.
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    “Aside from that, does anyone know if Clone armor gives enhancements?”

    I don’t recall any mention of it enhancing them, no.
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    “If Chief’s standard weapons are only human ones Id say that Rex has the firepower advantage, but Chief is the superior soldier. If it comes down to a straight fire fight I’ll bet on Rex, but it Chief plays his cards right he should win.”

    I doubt Chief is stupid enough to fight him head on. Like I’ve been saying he’s probably just going to be stealthy about it and snap Rex’s neck.
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    “I disagree… Rex was quite literally born and bred to fight and was trained in way more advanced programs than Chief. I believe Rex is the better soldier…”

    Pretty sure Chief’s been fighting longer than Rex has been alive. He might’ve even trained longer than Rex has been alive for that matter.
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    “I don’t know does chiefs?. mygaming.co.za/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/halo-2.jpg”

    Let’s sprint this would’ve been a better rebuttal.
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    “I believe if Rex and Chief were in the same general armor, that Rex would win however that is not the fight…”

    Even armorless Chief is still physically superior to Rex.

  37. the_man_with The_Answers November 28, 2014 at 10:12 pm -      #37

    “was trained in way more advanced programs than Chief. I believe Rex is the better soldier…”

    Which is why Chief has better aim and is stealthier right? Being “born for war” doesn’t mean a lot against someone who was born a genetic freak in the best ways (high level genius IQ and vastly superior physical traits), trained everyday in advanced academics and warfare for 8 years (8 years of his life were he should be at his biological prime for learning), augmented to perform vastly better both physically and mentally, trained another year, then has nearly 30 years of experience on top of that fighting numerically and technologically superior enemies.

    ” He CHOSE to use dual pistols as did many clones in command: Ponds, Stone, Fives, Echo… And your definition of a real soldier is obviously flawed as you don’t need a physical gun to be a soldier…”

    The point is that dual pistols is vastly inferior to having a single rifle. It takes much more effort and training to aim, lacks as much firepower, has close to a tenth of the range, has lower capacity, can have lower fire-rate, both hands are constantly occupied, and so on. It is a lot less soldierly to choose weapons based on “rule of cool” than “rule of effectiveness”

    “I don’t know does chiefs?”

    A little unfair seeing as that’s gameplay, so the player chose themselves.

    Uses a rifle until he runs out of ammo, THEN he goes dualies, and he’s really good with them (Something tells me Rex isn’t even as good at dual weilding as Chief, seeing as Chief is essentially an aimbot)::
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O3Dlujvyu0

  38. Super Combine November 28, 2014 at 10:13 pm -      #38

    @Tancalebner

    So given the choice, you’d pick pistols over a rifle with better firepower, firerate, ammo, etc? Am I supposed to believe this is a smart tactical decision?

    Also, please show me a real military force that trains their troops in dual wielding pistols as part of their MO, since I’m apparently wrong about real soldiers not dual wielding pistols.

    @Darth

    That’s an in-game picture using game mechanics, not a cutscene which usually has him wielding a rifle. At any rate, I was referring to the fact that Rex always prefers dual wielding pistols whereas the only time I can recall Chief dual wielding is in an episode from the Halo anime.

  39. pimpmage November 28, 2014 at 10:16 pm -      #39

    Armorless chief can dent steel with his fists and aim dodge. Also, chief has something Rex doesn’t have. Can you guess? Luck. but in all seriousness, what if this match was just a fist fight or something. Maybe a slightly different scenario.

  40. Super Combine November 28, 2014 at 10:20 pm -      #40

    @pimpmage

    I’d guess something like this.

    John sailed forward—covering the distance in two strides, his left arm a blur shooting forward, index and middle fingers outstretched together to form a spike. The Spartan‘s gauntleted hand passed effortlessly through the Jackal‘s skull just behind its left eye.”
    Halo Evolutions – Palace Hotel

  41. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets November 28, 2014 at 10:22 pm -      #41

    “Can you guess?”

    Stealth skills that’ll come in handy in a city filled with places to hide?
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    “what if this match was just a fist fight or something”

    Chief punches Rex’s head and caves his skull in?

  42. Super Combine November 28, 2014 at 10:25 pm -      #42

    @CH1C4N0444

    Unless his skull is made of Beskar I don’t see why not.

  43. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets November 28, 2014 at 10:28 pm -      #43

    “Unless his skull is made of Beskar I don’t see why not.”

    For some reason I was assuming Chief didn’t have armor when I posted that. And I was mostly put it in a question form because I was wondering if there’s any outcome other than that.

  44. pimpmage November 28, 2014 at 10:29 pm -      #44

    “Unless his skull is made of Beskar I don’t see why not.”

    This srsly sounds like a reasonable thing for SW to have.

  45. Friendlysociopath November 28, 2014 at 10:30 pm -      #45

    I’ve always wondered- why the hell do the Covenant build their ships with the capability to fall apart?

  46. pimpmage November 28, 2014 at 10:33 pm -      #46

    That video is literally the only occasion where I have seen that happen. Besides, plot.

  47. Super Combine November 28, 2014 at 10:35 pm -      #47

    “why the hell do the Covenant build their ships with the capability to fall apart?”

    If you’re talking about the anime scene, they explained it as a precaution in case of a Flood infestation. It’s never been shown anywhere else afaik, could have been a prototype, dunno.

  48. Epicazeroth November 28, 2014 at 11:37 pm -      #48

    Just to clarify before I start: I believe Chief will win this, unless Rex’s weapons are shown to be so powerful compared to HALO weaponry that they can just destroy Chief’s armor in a few shots. I’m just trying to correct mistakes I see and play Devil’s Advocate.
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    @CH1C: “Like I’ve been saying he’s probably just going to be stealthy about it and snap Rex’s neck.”
    Wouldn’t Rex, being a career soldier – and equipped with the knowledge that his opponent has some degree of super-strength – know to avoid anywhere that Chief would be able to just jump out and snap his neck?
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    @TMWTA: “It takes much more effort and training to aim, lacks as much firepower, has close to a tenth of the range, has lower capacity, can have lower fire-rate, both hands are constantly occupied, and so on.”
    But, you see, this is for real-life projectile weapons. Star Wars uses fictional energy weapons. So while it still requires two hands, and may possibly have less firepower, we have no way of knowing whether or not those other things are true for Rex. And Rex may have discovered he has skills that lend themselves better to dual-wielding; he would also have likely customized his weapons just he (and everyone else) customizes their other equipment.
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    @Combine: “So given the choice, you’d pick pistols over a rifle with better firepower, fire rate, ammo, etc?”
    Obviously it’s not. But can you prove that Rex’s fictional pistols are clearly inferior to, for example, Commander Cody’s fictional rifle?
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    @pimp: “This srsly sounds like a reasonable thing for SW to have.”
    1) Beskar is Mandalorian. Rex is not.
    2) AFAIK, it’s also really rare.

  49. OberHerr November 28, 2014 at 11:44 pm -      #49

    @Epic
    Not much you can do against a vastly superior CQC opponent who not only is much stronger and faster than you, but outweighs you by a few hundred pounds, including the armor. Now if it would get into CQC, I dunno. Rex would hopefully be smart enough to not try that. But on the issue of if Chief could ambush him…..they guy is WAY older than Rex. Clones age at twice the normal rate of humans. He’s trained a lot more. And from what may as well be considered birth, considering its all he knows.

    The only thing Rex has the advantage in is weaponry. And even that is debatable considering pistols tend not to be made for the range of traditional rifles.

  50. Super Combine November 29, 2014 at 12:06 am -      #50

    @Epic

    Think about what you’re implying though. Rex’s Blaster pistols can shoot faster, further, more accurately, and hold more ammo than it’s larger, more expensive counterpart. Does that sound right to you? I’ll bring up the stats for them later when I find them.

  51. Darth Bombad November 29, 2014 at 12:08 am -      #51

    Star Wars Blasters are vastly superior to anything the chief has.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC8hwysZFd4

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdobg7V58S4&list=UUMMMBM7hKk1MvLZgj-dPTaw&index=6

    Should do quit well against chiefs aromor, as for Rex’s Clone/Storm Trooper aromor…
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_CCuvnzmrw&index=20&list=UUMMMBM7hKk1MvLZgj-dPTaw

  52. OberHerr November 29, 2014 at 12:35 am -      #52

    @Darth Bombard
    You can’t really paint all SW blasters into one box.

  53. Shinesparkers November 29, 2014 at 12:41 am -      #53

    Poor Rex. Speaking of Star Wars, I miss the Clone Wars 😩

  54. the_man_with The_Answers November 29, 2014 at 2:29 am -      #54

    What Ober said as well as the fact that Blasters clearly don’t cause that much damage to regular people. His implication from those videos are that blasters fire shots between 10MJ and 500MJ on a regular basis. That is clearly not the case, seeing as people shot with blasters don’t immediately explode, or the room doesn’t explode. He cherry picks the high ends and completely ignores all the dozens of times blasters hit stuff and don’t do this:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eUItsRAvIk
    or this
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDLeFlealbI
    and instead do this:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IfVwgOmxro

    500MJ, or even 10MJ blasters would have been really useful there, no?

  55. Neon Lord November 29, 2014 at 3:23 am -      #55

    “So given the choice, you’d pick pistols over a rifle with better firepower, firerate, ammo, etc? Am I supposed to believe this is a smart tactical decision?”

    I guess you can shoot and kill two targets at once? Most of the times you see him in combat, the pistols one shot droids. A double-kill rate is a significant advantage of dual-wielding over rifles; though not so useful in this match.

  56. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets November 29, 2014 at 3:40 am -      #56

    “Wouldn’t Rex, being a career soldier – and equipped with the knowledge that his opponent has some degree of super-strength – know to avoid anywhere that Chief would be able to just jump out and snap his neck?”

    onebigphoto.com/venice-italy-from-above/ There really isn’t a place that doesn’t allow Chief to not just jump him.
    =
    “Should do quit well against chiefs aromor, as for Rex’s Clone/Storm Trooper aromor…”

    What does that video have to do with Rex’s armor? And how exactly is it going to stop Chief from snapping his neck?

  57. Darth Bombad November 29, 2014 at 6:52 am -      #57

    @CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets
    Youtube f-ed up, there’s a vid in his playlist of trooper aromor taking a grenade point blank.


    @the man without answers
    You do realise that Blasters have a variable yield right?.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwoBF0eX7Zs

    And if your trying to argue chiefs AR and Magnum (which are worse than modern weapons)
    are somehow superior to Rex’s equipment then your argument is as dumb as it usually is.

    If not then its a moot point Rex’s weapons will tear through chief giving the chance.
    The question should be can you say the same the other way around?.

  58. Super Combine November 29, 2014 at 9:07 am -      #58

    “Rex’s weapons will tear through chief giving the chance.”

    Too bad he’ll never actually get the chance since he’s going to get a bullet through the visor the moment they encounter each other. You seem to forget whose faster here and that headshots aren’t difficult for the guy that can do it while running at 72 km/h.

    “The concrete beneath the Spartan had turned to dust and gravel as he launched forward. Barely half a second had passed and he was already ten meters away. Palmer slung her weapon and tore off after him; Sullivan fell in directly behind her, running for all he was worth.
    Palmer was pumping her arms and trying to control her breath as she trailed behind the Spartan. She looked up from her boots and saw that his hands were no longer empty—his right hand now held a massive hard-chromed M6D, and a spare magazine was in his left. Eight thunderclaps rang out so fast that they bled together into a single long roar. At that same moment a terrible cacophony erupted behind them as her squadmates opened fire on the building—its facade disappearing behind a cloud of pulverized concrete and shattered glass. Two of the Jackals that had been covering their approach had already fallen—bright purple blood fountaining out of huge ragged holes that she could pick out even at this distance.
    With one hand at thirty meters and a dead run, two shots apiece, each a hit to the head or neck”
    Halo Evolutions – Palace Hotel


    Clone Armor stronk.

    2:09-2:13
    www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PHm1T7nMZcw#t=129

  59. Stronghold November 29, 2014 at 9:42 am -      #59

    If Rex were to be able to shoot MC’s gun and break it then Rex will probably win. Vise versa if MC destroys Rex’s guns.

  60. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets November 29, 2014 at 12:53 pm -      #60

    “And if your trying to argue chiefs AR and Magnum (which are worse than modern weapons)
    are somehow superior to Rex’s equipment then your argument is as dumb as it usually is.”

    Don’t think anyone’s arguing that.
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    “If not then its a moot point Rex’s weapons will tear through chief giving the chance.”
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    He won’t be given a chance. Even if he did, I doubt he’ll even be able to hit the Chief.
    =
    “Clone Armor stronk”

    Lol

  61. Friendlysociopath November 29, 2014 at 2:42 pm -      #61

    MC has legitimate bullet-dodging feats, unless those blasters fire faster than bullets he won’t likely be hit by Rex.

  62. the_man_with The_Answers November 29, 2014 at 3:47 pm -      #62

    “You do realise that Blasters have a variable yield right?.”

    Variable yes, but akin to that of tank cannons or large bombs no.

    “which are worse than modern weapons”

    People really take this “effective range of 300m” way out of context. Effective range is the range at which you should be expected to have enough energy to reliably kill your target. In a universe where just about every target is wearing some form of heavy armor and/or energy shielding, effective range is going to be a lot shorter than the farthest range you can shoot and hit reliably. This is quite evident by the fact that in Contact Harvest, two colonial militia recruits who had never fired a weapon before were nailing targets out to 500m with an MA5 rifle, and the effective range of the BR55 was 900 or so meters during a period where the UNSC were only fighting human rebels, but 30 years later of fighting the Covenant exclusively the “effective range” was only 200m, because the definition of their standard target changed drastically.

    Furthermore, the MA5-series rifle fires a rather large round at a higher than normal velocity. 7.62x51mm, which is larger than an AK-47 ‘s 7.72x39mm, and is also faster with its 905m/s vs ~715m/s. It also boasts a higher fire-rate, 15rps vs the 47’s 10rps. And despite the larger round at higher velocity with a greater fire rate, UNSC marines are quite accurate with it even on full-auto, which suggests an amazing recoil control system.

    I’m not even sure where you get the M6-series pistols are inferior to modern. They have a 125 meter effective range (Against armored alien targets and has an integrated smart-liked scope, vs the P226’s 50 yard range (yard’s being less than meters). They fire the massive 12.7x40mm semi-armor piercing high-explosive round (Note:High explosive), compared to the 9x19mm Parabellum, which means the M6’s just have all-round superior ballistics to the modern day standard. Especially considering it fires it at 425m/s, which is a velocity you can only achieve from a very heavy 9mm load (Like 120 grains or some such, compared to what I would estimate to be a 600+ grain load for the M6 round). We’re talking about a pistol that has more muzzle energy than a 7.62x51mm from a high-grade sniper rifle like an AIAW. That’s not even counting the extra energy that would come from its HE payload. Wouldn’t even want to imagine 8 of those slamming into your visor regardless of if they penetrate or not.

    So uhhh, yeah, not even close to “worse than modern.”

    “If not then its a moot point Rex’s weapons will tear through chief giving the chance.”

    That’s the problem, “given the chance.” Blasters are sluggishly slow compared to bullets, and Chief can borderline dodge bullets, and is freakishly good at aim-dodging. Not to mention he’s stealthy and can retain high accuracy while running faster than the world record human sprinting speed.

    “The question should be can you say the same the other way around?.”

    Feats for high-penetration projectile defenses? Because:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg8iN2RbNi8

    Chief’s rounds have more energy than that.

    And Chief’s pistol would be something more energetic than the .500 S&W Magnum in these videos (Also note the massive difference between the .500 S&W vs the 9mm):
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-NDjUJlbaw
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEH9kiFvqCc

    .500 S&W Magnum as only been integrated into six-shot revolvers as far as I’m aware, and the M6-series carries them in magazine-fed compact semi-auto pistols as standard. So yeah, a lot superior to modern day. Chief also carries an “Up-sized” M6D made specifically larger for SPARTANs, so expect even more punch to it than the regular M6.

    “Clone Armor stronk.”

    Armor penetrated by spears? Have fun as 7.62x51mm at 905m/s blows clean through your visor.

  63. Stronghold November 29, 2014 at 9:10 pm -      #63

    Isn’t Captain Rex cloned from Jango Fett? Does he have his skills?

  64. Just Vile December 2, 2014 at 1:14 am -      #64

    I have three reason MC would win

    1.he has killed a demi god in halo 4
    2. in the star wars movie the storm troopers got their ass handed by a bunch of apes with rocks.
    but I don’t know if storm troopers are the same as clone troopers
    3.MC survived an alien nuke blast and fell from outer space twice.
    plus MC is a badass and Rex is a bad chuck of crap

  65. nsl98 December 2, 2014 at 2:53 pm -      #65

    @Vile
    I don’t know much about this, MC guy, but he sounds pretty cool. You’ve convinced me of his superiority over Rex.

  66. Friendlysociopath December 2, 2014 at 3:02 pm -      #66


    Well…at least one of his points is somewhat useful. Not really relevant, but useful in the case of Rex trying to punch MC or chuck him off a cliff.

  67. nsl98 December 2, 2014 at 3:13 pm -      #67

    Don’t worry Sociopath, I was being sarcastic. I think Rex has a chance, but it’s small.

  68. erickyboo December 2, 2014 at 5:41 pm -      #68

    Hehe. I like the match. I hope it doesn’t die out too quickly. After those star wars ‘high end’ things were shown, I awaited for TMWTA to demonstrate UNSC weapons.

    Let’s not forget the Spartan abilities.
    Here is some H5G beta gameplay. www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_9T1ILYYJk
    At 6:50 or so there is some footage of the ground pound.

  69. nsl98 December 2, 2014 at 5:45 pm -      #69

    So we can use footage from games that aren’t released yet? A lot can change from the time a video is shown to the time of the games release.

    And @Friendly is PJ vs Link over?

  70. Friendlysociopath December 2, 2014 at 6:14 pm -      #70

    So we can use footage from games that aren’t released yet?

    Well you can, it’s just possible for the match to be resurrected with a giant “nu-uh” once the game finally comes out. I’m not sure how much you’d really get out of gameplay videos anyways for MC- his best feats are from cutscenes or his novels.

    @Friendly is PJ vs Link over?

    Define “over” for BankGambling. The other major debate at the moment is taking place on a match that was “over” a year ago. And people necro old matches all the time to try to make their pick look better. Tis in a constant state of flux, BankGambling.
    Vader vs MC comes to mind, once the EU vanished that one actually got resurrected enough to gather attention from multiple people- compared to say, one person bumping a thread he made and saying he won because nobody cared to debate against him anymore.

    PJ vs Link has a majority of the feats for either combatant listed and advantages/disadvantages for each combatant are more or less accepted by everyone. Generally not every match gets an “over” so much as a loss of interest and they fall off.

    If by “over” you mean a FP award, those are somewhat rare- admin doesn’t pass those out for just any match.

  71. nsl98 December 2, 2014 at 6:29 pm -      #71

    By over, I mean on a short break until someone decides to revive it. I really don’t know what else is left to discuss on that match.

  72. erickyboo December 2, 2014 at 8:57 pm -      #72

    “I’m not sure how much you’d really get out of gameplay videos anyways for MC- his best feats are from cutscenes or his novels.”

    The ‘new’ Spartan abilities. Thrustering around, groundpound… Do you want me to make a video on John-117 assassinations?

    “A lot can change from the time a video is shown to the time of the games release.”

    Other than balancing acts, I don’t think the abilities will change that much. If John needs to stay in the air for a moment as to get a good shot, he can do that with the stabilizers. As for how much his armour itself can tank, there was the guilty spark shooting him moment in halo 3 too. With the smartscope he also probably would get better range if he had an assault rifle… hm, about loadouts. That’s the thing eh? Also, armour ability… hm…

  73. knightbreaker117 December 8, 2014 at 9:18 pm -      #73

    Whoa stomp out , Master chief wins on that fact that he’s an super soldier , and plus he has luck on his side

  74. Hylias Hero December 13, 2014 at 4:51 am -      #74

    @the_man_with The_Answers
    You are my hero. I’ve tried to explain the idea that the effective range is shorter because of Covenant armor/shields for a long time, but I’ve never been able to articulate it as well as you have. Thank you my good sir.

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