Percy Jackson Vs Link

Percy Jackson Vs Link

Suggested by nsl98

Percy Jackson faces Link (Legend of Zelda) in three different scenarios:

Round 1: Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass Link. No time stops. Every other item allowed.

Round 2: Twilight Princess Link.

Round 3: Hyrule Warriors Link.

Best two out of three wins.

Who prevails?

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  1. LadyRamkin December 12, 2014 at 6:00 pm -      #501

    I am not the right person to debate this, OriginalA would probably be better at talking about Link’s swordsman ship skills. Also was up all night yesterday doing an essay so im really tired at the minuet. So im going off for now.

    Wow… Page 6.

  2. Commander Cross December 12, 2014 at 6:28 pm -      #502

    @LadyRamkin at #501

    I never expected us to reach that far either, without some of the people who will be missed, contrary to popular belief.

    That’s neither here nor there, just know that The Late Robin Williams isn’t the only person who’s dearly missed, and that The Night at The Museum movie expecting to arrive this month will be his Final Hurrah by far. :'(

    This sort of fight most likely ought to have been the glorious tasteful Hurrah a lot of others deserved as well, and deep down I pray for their forgiveness every hour I’m awake, on the hour.

    —-

    Anyway, sometimes I might wonder about a Swordfighters’ match between The Hero’s Shade and Quintus as well, CQC Weapon to CQC Weapon only with the most being allowed in Passive Abilities in fact, no lies from me.

    —-

    Another thing to note, we have the courage of yours and The OriginalA to thank for that, and the Courage of those who may not be with us in person but will hopefully be with us in Spirit for this, and may I either be held to my word or suffer a Week’s worth of Psychological Torture at me if I defile my word.

  3. nsl98 December 12, 2014 at 7:11 pm -      #503

    Woah! This thread exploded!

    —————

    Anyway, since the debate has moved on two who the most superior swordman is, I’ll throw in my two cents.

    ———-

    I believe it to be Percy, because in his verse, his ADHD helps him in combat. I’ll repost the quote:

    “That’s your battlefield reflexes. In a real fight, they’d keep you alive. As for the attention problems, that’s because you see too much, Percy, not too little. ”
    –Annabeth Chase, explaining ADHD to Percy Jackson in The Lightning Thief

    ———-

    This is shown multiple time throughout the series, his fight with Ares, Ethan, even trained Roman legionaries aren’t even able to keep up with him. The only people I recall Link ever fighting that were of equal or greater skill than him were Gannondorf, Hero’s Shade, Dark Link, and Demise, and Ghirahim. And three of the people on this list aren’t even relevant to the Links in this fight.

  4. LadyRamkin December 13, 2014 at 8:35 am -      #504

    “Woah! This thread exploded!”

    yeah it did, great match, well done.

    “I believe it to be Percy, because in his verse, his ADHD helps him in combat.”

    I believe it to be Link, because he has Instinctive access to a minimum of 4 – 13 (depending on how you count it) Individual Hero’s sword expertise.

    TBH i think they are about equal with sword skill.

  5. nsl98 December 13, 2014 at 8:55 am -      #505

    All the Links share experience? Is this cuz of that Hero’s Shade thing? It would explain why Link is just randomly able to master the item he finds in the dungeon, cuz Links have similar equipment.

  6. LadyRamkin December 13, 2014 at 9:06 am -      #506

    “All the Links share experience?”

    I didnt think so, but somebody said that they did. So im rolling with it. Since it does explain Links random expertise with equipment that he just finds laying around.

    They definitely don’t share feats though.

  7. LadyRamkin December 13, 2014 at 9:28 am -      #507

    So, you suggest a match, and then in post #3 declare that Percy can drown his opponents. with no effort, Was this match made just to spite Link??

    Also sadot06 bought up the whole riptide / Link is mortal thing in post #7. SEVEN.

    I would LOVE a feature that allows me to flag posts, then have it store them in a file attached to my account so that i don’t have to trawl through the entire debate looking for one relevant comment that happened amidst hundreds of other irrelevant comments.

    Also, that comment i made about somebody else saying that drowning only worked on immortals. I cant find the original comment anywhere. I think i might have just made that up, not on purpose mind you, but i do seem to have pulled it out of thin air, and none of you said anything.

  8. nsl98 December 13, 2014 at 9:41 am -      #508

    So, you suggest a match, and then in post #3 declare that Percy can drown his opponents. with no effort, Was this match made just to spite Link??

    No… See, my knowledge of LoZ is somewhat scattered and I get confused as to which Links have which equipment. I knew that at least 1 or 2 Links had water breathing stuff that would make this fight more interesting.

    ———–
    And I thought in order to debate you had to post feats of power. Drowning someone from the inside is pretty powerful.

  9. LadyRamkin December 13, 2014 at 9:50 am -      #509

    “And I thought in order to debate you had to post feats of power. Drowning someone from the inside is pretty powerful.”

    About that. Percy didn’t actually drown her with her internal fluid. He used the small river of poison that the goddess was generating then when she started to tear up he added those to mix.

    So Percy is actually going to have to use liquid present in the area to drown Link and since the area is so poorly defined its not as viable as previously believed. Especially since The area COULD be a large flat expanse with single wall that has some hookshot points and a small grind rail for links Sandmobile. and a small koi pond off in the distance.

    That fits the prerequisites for a neutral arena.

  10. nsl98 December 13, 2014 at 11:59 am -      #510

    In Mark of Athena, Percy removes water from Jason’s lungs:

    “Piper,” Percy said. “I can help.”
    He knelt next to her and touched Jason’s forehead. Water gushed from Jason’s mouth.

    Mark of Athena p. 500

  11. LadyRamkin December 13, 2014 at 12:07 pm -      #511

    Water that Jason had inhaled into his lungs. Not Jason’s bodily fluids. If Percy has used CPR would you say that he could control bodily fluids by pushing people?

  12. Friendlysociopath December 13, 2014 at 12:46 pm -      #512

    Water that Jason had inhaled into his lungs. Not Jason’s bodily fluids.

    And the difference between those would be? Water = water. Percy can just force water to go up Link’s nose and drown him like that.

    If Percy has used CPR would you say that he could control bodily fluids by pushing people?

    What? How was that relevant? Percy didn’t use CPR there, he just touched Jason and commanded the water to leave.

    So Percy is actually going to have to use liquid present in the area to drown Link and since the area is so poorly defined its not as viable as previously believed.

    Except that
    A) BankGambling rules state water must be present in a large enough quantity for Percy to use for optimal battle conditions, so there is water present, how much would be required for Percy to fight at his best is debatable but it is there.
    B) Percy can produce tidal waves at will from nothing. It’s how he causes the volcano to explode in Battle of the Labyrinth. He can create his own water.

    Also sadot06 bought up the whole riptide / Link is mortal thing in post #7. SEVEN.

    You know, assuming Riptide doesn’t work on Link for any reason whatsoever (Having magic, having legendary items, having the power of a God in him, being a supernatural creature from another world that isn’t Percy’s, common sense in a debating site, etc.)
    BankGambling has a rule about giving his enemy a weapon that works on him if his weapon wouldn’t work. So can we please, please stop bringing up that point? Riptide isn’t even that special of a weapon.

    All the Links share experience?

    It’s been suggested but never proven. Link can pick up weapons no Link in previous games has ever used and still be perfectly good at using it.

  13. LadyRamkin December 13, 2014 at 1:01 pm -      #513

    “And the difference between those would be?”

    Well water is a molecule consisting of 2 hydrogen atoms and and oxygen atom, and bodily fluids are liquids in the body that are used for metabolic processes, or are the result of some kind of metabolic process.

    The implication has always been that Percy can control, say his opponents blood, lymph fluid, seminal fluid, mucus, ect and use those to drown his opponent. there is no proof he can do that,

    “Percy can just force water to go up Link’s nose and drown him like that.”

    Yes, yes he can.

    “Percy can produce tidal waves at will from nothing. It’s how he causes the volcano to explode in Battle of the Labyrinth. He can create his own water.”

    I vaguely remember something like that, just for clarity could you post the quote?

    “Riptide isn’t even that special of a weapon.”

    Actually it is. It actively damages the soul of the thing it is used on. It happened to Jason once.

  14. LadyRamkin December 13, 2014 at 1:06 pm -      #514

    “Having magic”

    TP Link doesn’t have magic

    “having legendary items”

    Has never been a qualification for whether or not it can hurt you

    “having the power of a God in him”

    Im still willing to argue the immortality angle

    “being a supernatural creature from another world that isn’t Percy’s”

    Link is a moratl human in the zelda verse. The elemental compatability rule would make mortal humans from one universe equivilent to mortal humans from another, much the same way it applies to other things

    “common sense in a debating site”

    Is that an attack against my personal character?

  15. Friendlysociopath December 13, 2014 at 1:34 pm -      #515

    Im still willing to argue the immortality angle

    Considering that point seems to come from the Carter Kane series, I can’t actually debate that point.

    Link is a moratl human in the zelda verse. The elemental compatability rule would make mortal humans from one universe equivilent to mortal humans from another, much the same way it applies to other things

    Except that he isn’t the vanilla human of Percy’s universe, EC doesn’t carry far enough to make canon human = canon human just because canonically they’re both human. But I did say I’d drop this point so I will concede.

    Is that an attack against my personal character?

    Nah, just that the idea that you’d pit two characters up against one another to see who’s the strongest and then say “Oh btw, Character A’s weapon won’t work on Character B” is a really bad way to have a debate of which of the characters would win because that’s not even Character B winning through skill, power, or abilities- it’s just Character A being screwed.

  16. LadyRamkin December 13, 2014 at 1:42 pm -      #516

    Well if character A’s weapon wont work then that is a factor in determining the match. We wont suddenly give Masterchief kryptonite bullets in his fight against super man. His bullets wont work and that is an important factor.

    And having riptide not work in no way screws over Percy. Percy can man giant water fists that can punch down giant tidal waves.

  17. Friendlysociopath December 13, 2014 at 1:45 pm -      #517

    We wont suddenly give Masterchief kryptonite bullets in his fight against super man.

    We actually do exactly that or something similar. That’s only for weaknesses though.

    And having riptide not work in no way screws over Percy. Percy can man giant water fists that can punch down giant tidal waves.

    Screws over, reduces combat abilities, prevents adequate defense against the enemy. Same difference.

  18. LadyRamkin December 13, 2014 at 1:53 pm -      #518

    “We actually do exactly that or something similar”

    No, master chief gets standard equipment unless the original post states otherwise. His standard equipment will not hurt superman in the slightest.

    “bullets chief used were not nearly the determining factor”

    No, Superman being essentially indestructible, FTL, and able to bench press planets are determining factors. But whether or not master chief has any weapons that can even hurt him is important.

    And whether or not riptide will work is not a determining factor but still important.

    We really should pick a battle arena, just checked the rules as long as everyone agrees we can get away with it.

  19. Friendlysociopath December 13, 2014 at 2:01 pm -      #519

    “We actually do exactly that or something similar”

    No


    Yes, read the rules. If the enemy has only one weakness to kill them that the other character has no access to- we give them access to it. That’s why every Ganondorf fight it’s mentioned that his opposition needs holy weapons.

    We really should pick a battle arena, just checked the rules as long as everyone agrees we can get away with it.

    That’s something we should let the OP weigh in on, he may have somewhere in mind he’d like to see it. So long as there’s a decent body of water nearby I’m fine with any choice as Link isn’t quite as restricted by area as Percy is.

  20. LadyRamkin December 13, 2014 at 2:09 pm -      #520

    “Certain combatants may or may not have inherent restrictions or other unique conditions for their demise. Examples of this are Superman’s weakness to Kryptonite, and Sauron’s Ring of Power being unmade only by the elements that made it (Mount Doom). In these situations, certain elements may be compatible with similar items from other franchises/universes. However, said exclusive elements will be made available in the neutral arena.”

    So the specific weakness will be available in the neutral battle field. Assuming there is a neutral battlefield. If the OP give a battle arena where Kryptonite can not be present, then it will not be present due to rule 1. “Battle Scenarios Reign Supreme”. This in no way alters a combatants abilities or load out.

    BankGambling has some really great rules, well put together. I really appreciate the list of logical fallacies at the bottom too. Nice touch.

  21. nsl98 December 13, 2014 at 2:51 pm -      #521

    So…..i can pick an arena? I thought it was past the 50 post limit? If I can, let’s go with Miami.

  22. LadyRamkin December 13, 2014 at 2:56 pm -      #522

    You cant decide on your own what the arena is after #50, everyone has to agree or the Admin has to decide, but if you want to have it in miami i wont complain but could you be more specific about starting locations.

  23. Friendlysociopath December 13, 2014 at 3:07 pm -      #523

    I just meant he should weigh in, not decide by himself, for clarification. Miami is acceptable to me as well.

  24. nsl98 December 13, 2014 at 3:30 pm -      #524

    @Ramkin and Sociopath

    Wouldn’t the City of Miami technically count as neutral as it doesn’t limit Link and it let’s Percy fight effectively?
    ————-

    i wont complain but could you be more specific about starting locations.
    ————

    They can start on the beach. (This is assuming everyone currently debating this is OK with it.)

  25. Warlock Lowk December 13, 2014 at 6:36 pm -      #525

    “Yes, read the rules. If the enemy has only one weakness to kill them that the other character has no access to- we give them access to it.”

    That rule example has a flaw, superman doesn’t require kryptonite to be killed. You just need significant force or hax to hurt him. We don’t suddenly give chief magic or superman level of superstrength do we?

  26. Friendlysociopath December 13, 2014 at 7:10 pm -      #526

    We don’t suddenly give chief magic or superman level of superstrength do we?

    Firstly, that fight was a troll match on so many levels and is not a valid use of any rule.
    Because that’s not a weapon. We never give people extra powers that they don’t have.
    (That I’m aware of)

    I know little about Superman- that’s why I use the Ganon example, much easier to follow. Must have holy weapons. Alternatively, you could use Werewolves and needing silver (in most cases).
    The bottom line is the same, it’s no fun debating when one side is completely unable to damage the other.

    I’ve got no problem for Miami beach being the battleground btw.

  27. Commander Cross December 13, 2014 at 7:43 pm -      #527

    People forget a Butcher Side!-Loup Garou Werewolf, which shows up in The Dresden Files especially and only Inherited Silver or Brutal Reality-Warping Hax has a shot at killing one, otherwise it’s best to find a way to BFR the thing ASAP or just die!

    In other words, NO you CANNOT just go ahead and fetch a Silver Rocket-Propelled Grenade Launcher and Fire at the Werewolf, you have to have Inherited the thing first before you can do that in fact.

    Percy’s first cousin in Thalia has a Copy of The Aegis Shield, get her in the right party and I’m pretty sure she’d be mighty useful in fighting it out against a Loup-Garou Werewolf, though the rest must stem highly from her, no doubt about it.

    As for Possible Combat Zones, so long as I’d know Civilians won’t be harmed, it has potential to work for nominations.

    There may also be some New Hyrule locations to nominate as well, I just wanna send a note or two on it.

  28. LadyRamkin December 13, 2014 at 7:51 pm -      #528

    wait… isn’t Miami beach where Percy had his spat with Ares? I am personally not cool with that, i would prefer an area neutral to both parties.

  29. Friendlysociopath December 13, 2014 at 7:55 pm -      #529

    In other words, NO you CANNOT just go ahead and fetch a Silver Rocket-Propelled Grenade Launcher and Fire at the Werewolf, you have to have Inherited the thing first before you can do that in fact.

    …I’m going in ladies and gentlemen- do not follow me.

    What is this “Inheriting” of which you speak? Some magical process, ritual or incantation?

    wait… isn’t Miami beach where Percy had his spat with Ares? I am personally not cool with that, i would prefer an area neutral to both parties.

    Miami is in Florida, he fought Ares in LA.

    Perhaps we could find a beach with no nearby civilization?

  30. Commander Cross December 13, 2014 at 8:01 pm -      #530

    @FriendlySociopath at #529

    This is what I meant in fact.

    Inheriting an item from the deceased is usually optional, but not quite a requirement in itself unless I mis-recalled things.

    —-

    Perhaps we can all look for potential locations and all that jazz, methinks.

    I already also placed parts of the New Hyrule Map for consideration as well, and definitely NOT a Water-based Planet from Star Wars, that’s for sure.

    The Water Temples are debatable about this though as possible locations, we still need more nominations for locations.

  31. Friendlysociopath December 13, 2014 at 8:58 pm -      #531

    images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/185/cache/cliffs-northern-gannet_18558_600x450.jpg

    Be fairly epic to have them duke it out here off the coast of Europe on this rock. Not entirely neutral ground but Percy needs water nearby and Link can easily escape via hookshot.

  32. nsl98 December 13, 2014 at 9:20 pm -      #532

    Those cliffs look amazing! So beautiful, might have to visit one day.

  33. Friendlysociopath December 13, 2014 at 9:56 pm -      #533

    Does anyone know how much water is needed to react with lava to cause a volcano to erupt btw? A “tidal wave” is very vague.

  34. sadot06 December 13, 2014 at 10:04 pm -      #534

    Wow. So many posts

  35. Commander Cross December 13, 2014 at 10:14 pm -      #535

    @Sadot06 at #534

    Since you’ve been MIA(Missing-In-Action) I take it you’ve finally finished that Anime series I told you about?

    If so, please withhold any and all detailed spoilers and let’s talk more about it by e-mail, you hear me?

    Back to matters at hand, I’m mostly glad I’ve returned for now in here.

  36. nsl98 December 13, 2014 at 10:35 pm -      #536

    @Friendly

    Best I could accomplish:
    www.wired.com/2012/04/could-people-trigger-a-volcanic-eruption-on-purpose/

    ——-
    www.craterlakeinstitute.com/online-library/volcano-earthquake-hazard/6a.htm

    ———
    www.nature.com/nature/journal/v468/n7322/full/nature09558.html

  37. nsl98 December 13, 2014 at 10:41 pm -      #537

    If it helps, the type of eruption Percy caused was called a Phreatomagmatic eruption.

  38. sadot06 December 13, 2014 at 10:41 pm -      #538

    “Since you’ve been MIA(Missing-In-Action) I take it you’ve finally finished that Anime series I told you about?

    If so, please withhold any and all detailed spoilers and let’s talk more about it by e-mail, you hear me?”

    Still not done, but I should start back up soon.

  39. nsl98 December 13, 2014 at 10:45 pm -      #539

    @Sadot
    How many posts were you expecting?

  40. Commander Cross December 13, 2014 at 11:10 pm -      #540

    @Sadot06 at #538

    Tell me, what episode are you on?
    Can you tell me the episode number without spoiling the name and any plot-twists in that episode for the Anime in question?

    @nsl98 at #536

    What are all those images for?
    We all know that Percy was able to survive from Volcanic Eruptions and withstand Both Lava AND Magma at the same time as well, which would be at 3,000-6,000 degrees Fahrenheit in terms of temperature.
    Granted, at least One of the Links listed could Freeze Percy anyway if Percy doesn’t watch it, but it’s still important.

  41. Friendlysociopath December 13, 2014 at 11:30 pm -      #541

    @CC
    Percy creates a large amount of water when he’s trapped in a volcano. I was curious if we could guess how much water he produced since all we’re given is “a tidal wave”.
    As I guessed- nope, no way of really measuring it without a lot of factors.

  42. Commander Cross December 14, 2014 at 12:00 am -      #542

    @FriendlySociopath at #541

    So that’s why all those images from #536 are needed, to work out how to measure how much Water was required to accomplish a Proper Tidal Wave, depending on how big a Volcano we’re talking about, right?
    I’m sorry the minute I felt some parts of it might be redundant or if there’s anything deeper than just what I’d recall, hopefully I’d recall things correctly enough in fact.

  43. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 11:51 am -      #543

    I feel that starting the match with Percy on the beach would be like starting it with Link on a high vantage point…. and unlimited arrows.

    Does Hyrule warriors Link have access to his power ups?

  44. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 11:58 am -      #544

    I mean, without them he cant operate at maximum efficiency. Which is the whole reason we are picking a location, so that Percy can be at maximum efficiency. Seems a bit unfair to pick a location solely to benefit one combatant.

  45. Friendlysociopath December 15, 2014 at 12:09 pm -      #545

    Which is the whole reason we are picking a location, so that Percy can be at maximum efficiency.

    I thought we were picking it so we could have more specifics and less variables? Link doesn’t require anything special to fight at his best, Percy does.

  46. OriginalA December 15, 2014 at 12:15 pm -      #546

    “Does Hyrule warriors Link have access to his power ups?”

    He should. He has a power up (a pre-combat potion) that gives him unlimited power ups (the upgraded attack items).

  47. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 12:28 pm -      #547

    Power ups are standard gear yes? There’s no reason for Link not to have tgem

  48. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 12:50 pm -      #548

    “He should. He has a power up (a pre-combat potion) that gives him unlimited power ups (the upgraded attack items).”

    Completely unaware of that. okay, in that case, Start of round 3 Precy starts drowning HW Link. HW Link is not completely incapacitated since he has a minor drowning resistance. HW Link then proceeds to drop a small meteor onto Percy’s head. Several times.

    And when i say “small meteor” i mean this: i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s–LWauBeGW–/785033574011997073.jpg

  49. Friendlysociopath December 15, 2014 at 1:41 pm -      #549

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9py6p5uDc
    Found a video of Hyrule Warriors combos btw, Percy should have no problem speed blitzing HW Link and killing him.

    Can’t actually find anything about drowning- not a needed tactic for HW Link though.

  50. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 1:51 pm -      #550

    “Found a video of Hyrule Warriors combos btw, Percy should have no problem speed blitzing HW Link and killing him.”

    I don’t think you are using the term “speed blitzing” correctly.

    Even if you wanna say he has bullet timing reflexes which is still way inconsistent with the rest of the series. Percy does really move any faster than the average dude.

  51. Friendlysociopath December 15, 2014 at 2:09 pm -      #551

    I don’t think you are using the term “speed blitzing” correctly.

    Eh, I wasn’t using it how most people use it. I use speed blitz to mean kill him using your speed advantage.

    Percy does move faster than the average dude though, the Roman demigods as a group were massacred by Percy. Demigods don’t do anything but train for combat (Okay, some don’t- but Aphrodite kids can train they just don’t) Piper couldn’t even follow the fight between Percy and Jason when it happened. It should also be noted that the pavement was trembling according to Piper, meaning not only were they fighting at speeds she could barely see- they were striking hard enough to send vibrations through the earth.

    Oh, and you wanted some proof for the hurricane working on arrows and such right?

    “The entire cul-de-sac was engulfed in a hurricane. Percy stood at the edge, unmoved, but the water was churning so fast now that even the giant crocodile lost his footing. Wrecked cars scraped along the pavement. Mailboxes were pulled out of lawns and swept away. The water increased in volume as well as speed, rising up and turning the entire neighborhood into a liquid centrifuge.”
    From The Son of Sobek

  52. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 2:14 pm -      #552

    “a warm wind blew through the canyon, rustling the trees, but i kept my eyes on the skeletons. I remembered the general gloating over Annabeth’s fate. I remembered the way luke had betrayed her.
    And I charged.
    The first skeleton fired. Time slowed down. I wont say i could see the bullet, but i could feel its path, the same way i felt water current in the ocean. I deflected it off the edge of my blade and kept charging”

    I mean, the way you guys go on about how super amazing Percy’s battle field awareness is due to “ADHD” It’s fairly easy to believe that he simply predicted the trajectory of the bullet, he was running straight towards the guy that shot at him. and it is way more consistent with the rest of the series than Percy being a bullet timer.

    Then there is the fact that Jason who is supposedly Percy’s equal cant keep up with a flint lock pistol, that has a slower projectile than modern hand guns.

    “Oh, and you wanted some proof for the hurricane working on arrows and such right?”

    No, i have always said it can effect arrows, never been against it.

    “From The Son of Sobek”

    God dammit. Why are there more books?????

    Also, that entire quote sounds like its to do with water rather than wind.

  53. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 2:23 pm -      #553

    “Percy does move faster than the average dude though, the Roman demigods as a group were massacred by Percy”

    The roman demigods have a very slow method of combat, they all link shields together, and move as a single unit. The main reason Percy shows them up so bad is because he “doesn’t fight like a roman” Which… uh… Frank? said during the roman version of capture the flag.

    He zips in attack low and somersaults around, takes them completely by surprise since they were expecting him to fight like them.

    Percy is an amazing swordsman but if you want to posit super human speed, post a quote. There are probably at least a few somewhere. Since i am wrong about pretty much everything.

  54. Friendlysociopath December 15, 2014 at 2:26 pm -      #554

    I mean, the way you guys go on about how super amazing Percy’s battle field awareness is due to “ADHD” It’s fairly easy to believe that he simply predicted the trajectory of the bullet, he was running straight towards the guy that shot at him. and it is way more consistent with the rest of the series than Percy being a bullet timer.

    Take it up with the author, remember how in the rest of the quote Percy goes on to knock the gun of the other skeleton away before it manages to fire? So he charged that entire distance and blocked a bullet before the one skeleton could even fire it’s weapon.

    God dammit. Why are there more books?????

    I gave up, I really did. I never even heard about the Egyptian ones till now.
    I don’t have the money to buy all of these books and I my village library doesn’t have them all.

    Then there is the fact that Jason who is supposedly Percy’s equal cant keep up with a flint lock pistol, that has a slower projectile than modern hand guns.

    Several characters claim Percy is stronger than Jason.

  55. Friendlysociopath December 15, 2014 at 2:34 pm -      #555

    Argh, I need to type less, the edit button keeps cutting me off.

    [Piper] rolled to the edge of the road and looked back, dazed and horrified, as [Percy and Jason] crossed swords, gold against bronze. Sparks flew. Their blades blurred-strike and parry-and the pavement trembled. The first exchange only lasted a second, but Piper couldn’t believe the speed of their sword fighting.

    Piper at this point was trained in swordplay and still could barely follow the fighting between the two. Their strikes also shake the ground, so there’s a decent strength feat in there somewhere. Percy also one-shots a tree in Taurtarus, where he’s constantly weakened, so his strength is decently superhuman.

    Also, lava.
    An entire phalanx of Cyclopes charged forward, knocking smaller monsters out of the way. Annabeth figured she was about to die. “It had to be Cyclopes,” she grumbled.
    Percy gave a battle cry. At the Cyclopes’ feet, a red vein in the ground burst open, spraying the monsters with liquid fire from the Phlegethon.

  56. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 2:35 pm -      #556

    “remember how in the rest of the quote Percy goes on to knock the gun of the other skeleton away before it manages to fire? So he charged that entire distance and blocked a bullet before the one skeleton could even fire it’s weapon.”

    1) Those skeletons turned up and just looked at Percy and Co without shooting for ages. not the sharpest knifes in the draw.

    2) There is no way to tell how far away Percy was from the nearest one, or how far away the skeletons were from each other.

    3) After knocking the gun away Percy gets shot

    “Piper at this point was trained in swordplay and still could barely follow the fighting between the two”

    Not by this point, wasn’t it after they got boarded by the snow goddess lady that she started training?

    “Argh, I need to type less, the edit button keeps cutting me off.”

    same.

  57. Commander Cross December 15, 2014 at 2:43 pm -      #557

    I remembered the instance of the New Romans back at The Son of Neptune like It was just like yesterday, sadly not so much the exact chapter quotes. T_T

    —-

    @FriendlySociopath at #551

    And along with the Demeter or Dionysus Boot Cabins, The Aphy got hit with another symptom for The Hufflepuff House Syndrome in all honesty.

    Also to be fair in that Fight with Jason of New Rome, I mostly remember the Casual Super-Human Combat Speeds going on, the ground-shaking during the fighting’s something I didn’t look much at during the fighting.

    I already noted Super-Human Combat Speeds in Percy’s favor, Not Movement Speeds aside from Water-Amps or River Styx Enhancements at work.

    Keep in mind that Jason of New Rome tends to Ride The Lightning like Ky Kiske of Guilty Gear(albeit less Professional and stuff, still has some Badass moments.) or Flynn Scifo from Tales of Vesperia, without the Epic White and Blue Armor and stuff to go with.

    Yes, Jason of New Rome is an Expy of Ky Kiske through and through but I digress on it.

    —-

    Fair to warn you that I only recall Super-Human Combat Speeds as noted before.
    Also I’m trying to read The Throne of Fire and the main reason I am able to read it is something regarding Carter Kane reminds me of something going on with my life
    actually.

    —-

    @LadyRamkin at #552

    In all likelihood, I’m gonna go chalk it up to apparently that first-cousin of Jason’s apparently picking up Sharp-shooting with Handguns and stuff, and the bullets are apparently enchanted to Auto-hit unless you can deflect or block them somehow.

    Not to mention that the party had to learn to deal with it without Percy with them as well.

  58. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 2:48 pm -      #558

    “and the bullets are apparently enchanted to Auto-hit unless you can deflect or block them somehow.”

    1) where does it say they were enchanted?
    2) If Jason were a bullet timer blocking flint lock shots would be literally no problem.

  59. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 2:57 pm -      #559

    “Also, lava.”

    Actually that isn’t lava. or magma. Its a river of literal liquid fire that exists in Tartarus. Which has a healing effect if you drink it.

  60. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 3:10 pm -      #560

    That moon freaked me out! How fast does it move?

  61. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 3:12 pm -      #561

  62. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm -      #562

    So, Link just summons a random moon from… somewhere and just let’s it explode all over people?

    ——–

    Didn’t look very fast. I think Percy could just dodge.

  63. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 5:17 pm -      #563

    “Didn’t look very fast. I think Percy could just dodge.”

    oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/the-legend-of-zelda-3ds/thumb/1/1b/Link2.jpg/468px-Link2.jpg

  64. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 5:33 pm -      #564

    Wut.

  65. Friendlysociopath December 15, 2014 at 5:44 pm -      #565

    @Ramkin
    Pretty much the mantra of Link supporters lol.
    That said- the moon is like 10 feet in diameter- that’s not a game-changer.

    Link stands in the very large company of video game characters with almost no speed feats. Alas, I like many of those video game characters but without feats they tend to have the deck stacked against them for BankGambling. Although I might have a trick for the Final Fantasy crowd thanks to Dissidia.

  66. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 5:49 pm -      #566

    @Friendly

    I thought that Dissidia was only canon for Warrior of Light.

  67. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 6:00 pm -      #567

    “Pretty much the mantra of Link supporters lol.”

    I am trying very hard to not be a Link supporter, When i weighed into this match i was completely neutral. Just wanted to see who would win in a fight. But pretty much everyone else on here is supporting Percy. Which has,in my eyes, turned Link into the underdog. now i cant help but support him. And statements like
    “Didn’t look very fast. I think Percy could just dodge.” Are not helpful. They don’t further the debate. May as well say “Percy can dodge ALL THE THINGS.”

    “That said- the moon is like 10 feet in diameter- that’s not a game-changer.”

    Those little red dudes are about five feet tall and the moon is about 7 red dudes tall. volume of a sphere is V=4/3πr^3. which means that the volume of the moon is 22449.3 cubic feet of rock that link can spawn in at a whim. I have no idea how heavy that is though.

  68. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 6:11 pm -      #568

    @ Ramkin
    I’m sorry I offended you, bro. I didn’t have the time to post a lengthy response to Link chucking small moons at people, as I was busy.

    ——-

    Anyway, low end has Percy casually arrow-timing, high end is bullet-timing. HW Link has the strength and good items that could help him fight against Percy for a while, but from what footage has been brought up here, and my own research on YouTube, the items are lacking in speed.

  69. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 6:21 pm -      #569

    “I’m sorry I offended you, bro. I didn’t have the time to post a lengthy response to Link chucking small moons at people, as I was busy.”

    Nah, i’m not offended. Just tired, Sorry

  70. Friendlysociopath December 15, 2014 at 6:24 pm -      #570

    I thought that Dissidia was only canon for Warrior of Light.

    Close, Dissidia is actually canon for everyone- however they all forget the events that transpired so it’s as if it never happened. However, it does cement the fact that Final Fantasy characters are bullet-timers as almost everyone from FF6 onwards faces gun-toting enemies with no extreme difficulty. (Not counting 12, don’t speak to me of 12, worst in the series in my opinion)

    Those red dudes are not 5 feet tall. I think Link’s official height is 5’4 and he’s not standing straight and those guys are still a good foot shorter than he is. At best they’re around 4 feet tall.
    I also have no idea to calculate how heavy that is, we can bask in ignorance together.

  71. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 6:42 pm -      #571

    I think Link’s official height is 5’4. Ocarina of time link is 5’4. In skyward sword those red guys are taller than link. But in this game they are in fact shorter than Link. about a foot shorter. if we go by OoT Links height they are 4.4 feet tal. which means that the moon is 15298.57 cubic feet.

  72. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 6:52 pm -      #572

    Still not sure how heave that is. but im guessing heavy.

    “I also have no idea to calculate how heavy that is, we can bask in ignorance together.”

    I haven’t had a good reason to bask in a long time. aaaahhh, feels good.

  73. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 6:53 pm -      #573

    Someone should find a match for Warrior of Light then, I was thinking Link…

    ———–

    “we go by OoT Links height they are 4.4 feet tal. which means that the moon is 15298.57 cubic feet.”

    ———-

    So how much damage will that do to Percy? We know he tanked lava, lightning, Ares kicking him, and being blasted out of My. St. Helens, among other things.

  74. Commander Cross December 15, 2014 at 6:57 pm -      #574

    @Nsl98 at #573

    What about Flynn Scifo from Tales of Vesperia even if it’s just Weapon-to-Weapon only?

    Something about Flynn reminds me of Jason of New Rome, if need be I can talk with the Tales Buffs in-and-out-of-site to see if they’d want in on it too.

  75. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 7:01 pm -      #575

    @Cross
    Never heard of this Tales series,but a quick google search yielded interesting info. I might check it out.

  76. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 7:04 pm -      #576

    “Someone should find a match for Warrior of Light then, I was thinking Link…”

    If you wanna do Link, do some research into which ones you pick, or do a partial composite, like all of the ones in a specific timeline.

    “We know he tanked lava”

    When?

    ” lightning”

    Magic lightning, which is not the same as real lightning.

    “Ares kicking him”

    With an unknown amount of force, and considering that ares was toying with him, you cant assume it was maximum force.

    “and being blasted out of My. St. Helens”

    You cant really say he tanked that. He would have died if he hadn’t landed in water where his regen kicked in, and even after his regen he spent 3 months being nursed back to health on a magic island by a magic lady.

  77. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 7:17 pm -      #577

    We know he tanked lava”

    When?

    P.132 Battle of the Labyrinth

    ——
    docs.google.com/viewer?pid=explorer&srcid=0B8_4akkrDgo9dmFvY0NjeGhLSTA&docid=67d6aa0742c2266815f57481adbd7f78%7C610a6c4f70342c29c65461a8608b743e&chan=EgAAAMhSSTevWJCubNeG4A2p4er0FAjG2pu8J71LWndHjHWb&a=v&rel=zip%3Bz5%3BRiordan%2C+Rick+-+(4)+The+Battle+of+the+Labyrinth.pdf

  78. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 7:18 pm -      #578

    That’s an entire book. When specifically?

  79. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 7:19 pm -      #579

    I edited my comment to p. 132

  80. Friendlysociopath December 15, 2014 at 7:22 pm -      #580

    @Cross, I’m a Tales buff, I can help with that- but I’ll tell you now- I do RPG battles on Facebook all the time, and every Tales character is miserably outclassed by most other fictional characters with few exceptions. I’ve thought about putting all the main characters from Tales and Final Fantasy against one another but that would end in slaughter against the Tales group. They don’t have the feats.

    Magic lightning, which is not the same as real lightning.

    You’re right, magic lightning in this universe is waaaaay superior to regular lightning in terms of firepower.

    With an unknown amount of force, and considering that ares was toying with him, you cant assume it was maximum force.

    He’s tanked far worse than Ares punting him. (Which does throw him back 30 feet so that’s pretty in line with HW Link)
    Kampee (might’ve spelled that wrong) hits him back and Kampee breaks though the walls of Alcatraz, so he’s got some decent durability going for him.
    He also gets whacked by the bronze statue and it barely phases him but the details elude me for that one so don’t quote me on it.

  81. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 7:23 pm -      #581

    Page 134 is Percy getting looked after, due to being exploded.

    “You’re right, magic lightning in this universe is waaaaay superior to regular lightning in terms of firepower.”

    Yeah, Zues’s master bolt. The lightning that Jason and Thalia call down, is never as destructive as real lightning. Or in this case Zues lightning.

  82. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 7:26 pm -      #582

    “You’re right, magic lightning in this universe is waaaaay superior to regular lightning in terms of firepower.”

    Yeah, Zues’s master bolt. The lightning that Jason and Thalia call down, is never as destructive as real lightning. Or in this case Zues lightning.

  83. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 7:27 pm -      #583

    Not counting 12, don’t speak to me of 12, worst in the series in my opinion)
    ——

    Never played 12. My personal favorites are 4,7, and 8. And I enjoyed 6 and 9 too.

  84. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 7:29 pm -      #584

    @Lady

    So sorry about the confusion! Its 132 I double edited my post when I realized my mistake.

  85. LadyRamkin December 15, 2014 at 7:33 pm -      #585

    “Your farther’s nature protects you,” one said. “Makes you hard to burn. But not impossible, youngling. Not impossible.”

    Which means that his tanking lava doesn’t really carry over to other types of punishment, just heat.

    Its currently 0:36, i need to college tomorrow, so imma go to bed

  86. Friendlysociopath December 15, 2014 at 7:48 pm -      #586

    Yeah, Zues’s master bolt. The lightning that Jason and Thalia call down, is never as destructive as real lightning. Or in this case Zues lightning.

    Thalia’s lightning throws Percy backwards a good dozen feet- that’s not bad. It’s also Percy, he who is the main character and thus gets all sorts of feats because it’s his story.
    Jason also shoots his lightning straight through Midas roof.
    Oh, and the lightning bolts the demigods and monsters use is quoted to be enough to kill 20 men, so better than regular lightning. 20x better.

  87. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 8:08 pm -      #587

    @ Friendly

    Where is that 20 men quote? We might need it in case proof is needed.

  88. Friendlysociopath December 15, 2014 at 8:17 pm -      #588

    Where is that 20 men quote? We might need it in case proof is needed.

    It’s in the very beginning of a Lost Hero. The one demon-dude hits Jason with lightning and says it would kill 20 men.

  89. Commander Cross December 15, 2014 at 8:18 pm -      #589

    @FriendlySociopath at #580

    Well one of these days, who knows?

    I might wonder if it’s okay to contemplate Jason of New Rome vs Flynn Scifo in a Swordfighter’s showdown or two, the most being allowed to both in Passive Abilities.

    Or maybe have a Group fight with each of the two on opposing sides in fact, for instance if one of the two gets Jellal from Fairy Tail on his side, the other can go get Haseo of the Dot Hack(.Hack) Universe with him with most equal incarnations allowed and stuff.

    The possibilities are endless, and I always wanted to see what it’d be like to see one Ky Kiske Expy against another sometimes, Casual Super-Human Combat Speed(Without Combat Techniques), Reactions and Reflexes favor Jason of New Rome while Supernatural Abilities, Combat Techniques and Tenacity favors Flynn Scifo, Jason may have better Swords to use(well at least his Current Sword anyway since it’s also Indestructible) but Flynn’s weapons have always been more durable than half of Jason’s own.
    I’d grant you that the Reaction-related regards stem from Jason of New Rome being able to track Thunder and Lightning as of The Blood of Olympus somewhere, so for all I’d know that edge could be halved like the Torso separated from The Legs.

    —-

    Also I dunno, the Tales Forces have a LOT of Heavy-weight Spells to bring to the table, and while I’m sure even without their Biggest Guns From FF13 they got Heavy-weight Spells of their own, but from what I remember, the Tales Forces’ Spells tend to have more range most of the time.

    You forget Divine and Cosmic Lightning, didn’t you?
    Which is often assured to hit Faster and HARDER than their ‘Vanilla’ Counterparts for that matter.
    If they operate on the same kind of principles as The Butcher Side having Spells amplified by Hellfire or Soulfire tend to do, they do tend to Hurt Worse.

    @LadyRamkin at #584

    It does factor in when you combine it with the fact that Percy was able to tank a lot of Electricity fired at him by his two first cousins among the Half-Mortal Zeus kids(Courtesy of Thalia and Jason.) in fact.

    It’s still possible to kill him by Incineration but it’s easier said than done for a reason.

    Shall we add more?
    Seriously, why aren’t Percy or Jason in the next Super Smash Bros game already?

  90. Friendlysociopath December 15, 2014 at 8:28 pm -      #590

    @Cross, you have somewhere in particular you’d like to discuss the possible Tales battle? A forum perhaps? I’ll be glad to help but Tales really gets the short shtick when it comes to feats.

  91. nsl98 December 15, 2014 at 8:47 pm -      #591

    You know, at this rate, we’ll prolly surpass Percy’s fight against Kratos in comments.

  92. Commander Cross December 15, 2014 at 8:49 pm -      #592

    @FriendlySociopath at #589

    There’s skype, tumblr, Steam and BankGamblingtopia where we may talk more in there, I can also propose clicking the link on my username if you like but I seldom go there nowadays, because I view going in there as against my own Punishment and I wouldn’t be fearing The Big-G Man Himself and His Family if I go back there now.

    I’d hope to especially find you at the first 4, you’re welcome to click the link in my username but I cannot return there yet.

    —-

    I know that with one of the first 4, I will find you sooner or later and we can talk more on the battle plans, you have my word on it.
    The last one, I’m still inflicting my own punishment and I intend to carry it out.

  93. LadyRamkin December 16, 2014 at 8:06 am -      #593

    “The one demon-dude hits Jason with lightning and says it would kill 20 men.”

    And that means that Jason can replicate that how?

  94. LadyRamkin December 16, 2014 at 8:11 am -      #594

    Also, if those moons are made out of sand stone, then they each weigh 1147.39275 tons

  95. LadyRamkin December 16, 2014 at 8:25 am -      #595

    And link can pull them to the ground with enough force to make them explode.

    Sorry for multi post.

  96. nsl98 December 16, 2014 at 8:35 am -      #596

    So you’re assuming it’s a real moon Link is summoning?

    ———
    It could just be an over the top gameplay finisher, like Smoke’s planet busting fatality in Mortal Kombat.

  97. LadyRamkin December 16, 2014 at 8:45 am -      #597

    “So you’re assuming it’s a real moon Link is summoning?”

    No, real moons are huge. Like I said this is a small meteor.

    “It could just be an over the top gameplay finisher, like Smoke’s planet busting fatality in Mortal Kombat.”

    Its what happens when he gets the hookshot power up, OriginalA has stated that HW Link can start the match with his item power up’s. Its not really a finisher, it is just something that happens when you use the hookshot.

    Earlier in the game a great fairy makes a full sized Majoras mask moon fall out of the sky onto a dragon. and most of the power ups mimic the great fairy.

    Also most things in fighting games arnt canon.

  98. nsl98 December 16, 2014 at 8:49 am -      #598

    Its not really a finisher, it is just something that happens when you use the hookshot.
    ——–

    Oh. I must not have been paying close attention to the video.

    So if HW Link has this strength, one hit on Percy and he would be extremely dazed/stunned/hurt whatever. This is where Percy’s combat speed comes in handy.

  99. LadyRamkin December 16, 2014 at 8:58 am -      #599

    I personally am not willing to say that HW is strong enough to pull that much weight, but if Link dropped that on Percy’s head then I’m pretty sure Percy is boned. All I can really do now is wait for that to get rebuffed. If it doesn’t then all that’s left to decide is whether or not Link deserves the BankGambling award. I mean, on victory due to time stop and one due to MOON . Then that is a bit stompy.

  100. nsl98 December 16, 2014 at 9:06 am -      #600

    victory due to time stop

    ———-/

    I thought it was determined a few pages ago Percy could resist time manipulation to an extent? Or did that remain unresolved? Anyway, Percy could deflect the Hookshot or slice it up. Would breaking the Hookshot break its magic tying it to the meteor?

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