Percy Jackson Vs Link

Percy Jackson Vs Link

Suggested by nsl98

Percy Jackson faces Link (Legend of Zelda) in three different scenarios:

Round 1: Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass Link. No time stops. Every other item allowed.

Round 2: Twilight Princess Link.

Round 3: Hyrule Warriors Link.

Best two out of three wins.

Who prevails?

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725 Comments on "Percy Jackson Vs Link"

  1. Ciridae Hunter November 18, 2014 at 6:31 am -      #1

    TP Link has a chance but I have to give this to Percy since he has more stomp abilities-not sure about Hyrule Warriors one-and Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass most likely couldn’t use many of his items since those are very limited in their application.

  2. Ciridae Hunter November 18, 2014 at 6:40 am -      #2

    Could we restrict the Time Stop to do a time slowing effect like in Majora’s Mask? Taking out the time element for Link just makes him the Hero of…something, and that can be confusing as shit; banter aside, the ability to make time his bitch is Link’s (and his many incarnations’) staple-it’s his title, for Hylia’s sake-and seems rather unfair when dealing with a demigod with stomptastic feats like Percy.

    Is Percy going to be restricted to just a mortal body and some gear? If not, then all but TP Link (and Midna, since she is a part of Wolf Link’s attacks and a big part of the game in general-she was an awesome companion) would be like putting a caveman in a fight with FFVII Ruby or Sephiroth.

  3. nsl98 November 18, 2014 at 7:00 am -      #3

    Thanks admin!

    Here’s a weird ability of Percy’s:

    Percy imagined her nose and throat filling with her own tears. She gagged. The tide of venom reached her feet.
    He didn’t want to stop. He wanted to choke the goddess. He wanted to watch her drown in her own poison.

    -House of Hades p. 363

  4. nsl98 November 18, 2014 at 7:02 am -      #4

    @ch
    Alright. Link can have his time stops. All Percy has is basic camp armor and Riptide.

  5. Ciridae Hunter November 18, 2014 at 7:18 am -      #5

    Funtabulicious-still know nothing about Hyrule Warriors incarnation, but since the game is just the Hylian Dynasty Warriors, Link would mostly deal with hack-and-slash fodder so he would probably be out on that basis.

    TP incarnation has a general speed and versatility advantage (plus bomb arrows never hurt…unless you aim at your own feet) since he has Midna to help him with the wolf thing and to give a few snarky comments here and there. This match would be the most fun to watch and is a tossup in my opinion.

    WW/PH incarnation is a small kid with the body proportions of South Park’s Timmy (minus the limb mangled mess for arms and legs), though he can use the Skull Hammer quite efficiently in tandem with Ice Arrows to shatter opponents and has a wider variety of items (if somewhat climatized to their own unique environments like the TP rideable top thing). I’m leaning towards Percy on this.

    All-in-all, so long as Percy doesn’t go Kratos on Link, it can be a pretty even fight.

  6. Stronghold November 18, 2014 at 7:55 am -      #6

    What kind of map is this battle taking place in?

  7. sadot06 November 18, 2014 at 8:00 am -      #7

    Is Link mortal? Because Riptide doesn’t work on mortals. I know time stop depending on how powerful could be stompish. Though from what I’ve heard Percy has vastly superior reaction time and reflexes, being able to dodge bullets in combat. There is of course the whole choking people with their own fluids. He doesn’t do this because of moral reasons, but in BankGambling he’d likely do it as a last resort.

  8. Friendlysociopath November 18, 2014 at 8:43 am -      #8

    Wait a sec, Link gets all of his toys but Percy doesn’t even get his shield?

    On the matter of Time Stops, every time Link comes up the debate starts again- can’t he only do that with spheres he gets from someone else?

    I suppose since the Battlefield is supposed to be neutral there won’t be any water nearby?

  9. nsl98 November 18, 2014 at 8:54 am -      #9

    @Friendly
    I thought basic camp armor meañt shield included.

  10. Commander Cross November 18, 2014 at 10:23 am -      #10

    I regret to warn you I can’t be here to party and dance, much today.
    I’ll be back around 9 days from now, if I don’t make it then go beyond 50 posts without me. ;_;

    Does Percy get the Multi-Vitamins from The Sea of Monsters if The River Styx Enhancements are too much?
    Just one multi-vitamin’s required at most for WW/PH Link.
    TP Link has the blood of N64 Link in his veins, Riptide may harm him if it’s enough.
    I know HW Link has arrived, which is a cherry on top of the sadness cake.

    I always wanted to join a fight like it all my life, now the wish is only half-fulfilled as some people in my family have died for our sins since December 2013-July 2014, and IT’S ALL MY FAULT!!!

    Some would have happily joined in as well were it not for that fact.

    Anyone else who WANTS to die for our sins this year or the next?
    Form a line, I’ll get to you eventually.
    ;-;

  11. Friendlysociopath November 18, 2014 at 11:45 am -      #11

    @nsl98
    He has a shied made by his cyclops half-brother, I was just wondering whether it was present or not. It’s standard equipment for Percy but it isn’t standard camp armor for everyone. Just wanted clarification.
    I stand corrected about the shield, he lost it and I don’t remember if he ever got another one.

    So, a general listing of Percy’s skills/abilities:
    Combat
    ADHD: Percy can focus on a great many things in combat, he uses this skill to analyze his opponents fighting style and can often determine where and how they’ll strike before they do.
    Expert Swordsman: Percy is a talented swordsman, able to take on opponents with far greater skill, strength, and stamina- including his universes God of War himself. His fighting style is said to be unpredictable, with his allies and enemies hard-pressed to even follow his attacks.

    Demigod specials This of course brings the question- are they anywhere with water?
    Hydrokinesis: Percy can manipulate water to move and act however he pleases; at one point he considers forcing a river to turn back on itself but decides it would be a bad idea rather than outside of his power- instead deciding to lift the river over his head as he walks across.
    Water strength: While in contact with water Percy’s combat skills increase, wounds heal is seconds, his strength and speed also increase.
    Hydrogenisis: Percy can create water himself, he has created a large enough quantity of water to react with lava to cause a volcano to erupt.
    He also has some control over ice and snow, though to a lesser degree than water.
    He’s also resistant to heat, even lava wasn’t able to kill him.

    Items
    Riptide: Celestial bronze sword, capable of deflecting lightning and will always return to Percy.

  12. LadyRamkin November 18, 2014 at 12:50 pm -      #12

    Both WindWaker and Twilight princess link can make themselves Invulnerable temporally using their respective versions of magic amour. WindWaker link has the added advantage of having Ice arrows that can instantly freeze an active volcano.

    Hyrule warriors link has pretty much all the staple items of the zelda franchise with the added bonus that he can fling man sized target like, 30 feet trough the air with little effort.

    I know almost nothing about Percy.

  13. LadyRamkin November 18, 2014 at 12:55 pm -      #13

    @Ciridae Hunter
    Only the Link from Ocarina of time/ Majora’s mask is known as the Hero of time. Windwaker link is the “Hero of winds” and in twilight princes he was “The hero chosen by the gods”
    also Friendlysociopath is correct that link needs phantom spheres to use the time stop. and he can only carry 9 at a time. Whether or not he starts with them is up to the OP

  14. nsl98 November 18, 2014 at 2:43 pm -      #14

    @LadyRamkin
    I doubt arrows will do much. Percy has deflected bullets before.

  15. nsl98 November 18, 2014 at 5:27 pm -      #15

    @Commander
    I’ll look forward to your return then so we can start debating. Its pretty lackluster in this thread right now.

  16. Friendlysociopath November 18, 2014 at 6:24 pm -      #16

    As far as I know, the bullet deflecting was only under the influence of a curse- not something Percy can do all of the time. Although he can slice arrows out of the air so he’s not totally without feats in that regard.

    There’s not much he can do against the Links that can become invulnerable. He doesn’t have any way of dispelling Links magic either. A 1v1 swords only contest Percy would win. Heck, if there’s water on the battlefield Percy is damn near undefeatable- and there should be some water here according to BankGambling rules.

  17. nsl98 November 18, 2014 at 6:39 pm -      #17

    @friendly
    What curse? He did it in Titans Curse, two years before the Achilles thing.

  18. nsl98 November 18, 2014 at 8:30 pm -      #18

    The first skeleton fired. Time slowed down. I won’t say I could see the bullet, but I could feel its path, the same way I felt water currents in the ocean. I deflected it off the edge of my blade and kept charging.
    Titans Curse p. 170

  19. Epicazeroth November 18, 2014 at 11:03 pm -      #19

    @Friendly: “Although he can slice arrows out of the air so he’s not totally without feats in that regard.”
    And going by pretty basic scaling, it should be pretty casual. Seriously; I just read Blood of Olympus, and there’s casual arrow-timing every other damn chapter.
    ===
    Also, Riordan’s (non-deity) characters are now officially way past superhuman. If it wasn’t clear before BoO, at one point a character casually flips a car over their head – the car is behind them. They were wearing a strength-enhancing artifact, but still.

  20. nsl98 November 18, 2014 at 11:08 pm -      #20

    @Epic
    Is the book any good? Haven’t read it yet. Thoughts on the match?

  21. Ciridae Hunter November 18, 2014 at 11:08 pm -      #21

    Ocarina Link has the Golden Gauntlets that let him fling away pillars the size of Minas Morgul, so that car thing-something that every Marvel and DC character can do for some damn reason-isn’t that impressive.

    Also, anyone else find it odd that no one has referenced the sea foam thing with Poseidon in the Olympian books?

  22. nsl98 November 18, 2014 at 11:12 pm -      #22

    Cridae, OoT Link isn’t one of the Links being used. Its WW\PH, TP, and Hyrule Warriors in 3 separate rounds.

  23. Ciridae Hunter November 18, 2014 at 11:13 pm -      #23

    Yea, and BoO humans aren’t being used for the match, either; I just wanted to one-up with the car thing.

  24. nsl98 November 18, 2014 at 11:15 pm -      #24

    Percy held up the sky. Your argument is invalid.

    Jk

  25. Ciridae Hunter November 18, 2014 at 11:18 pm -      #25

    First of all, I am like an old man; I do not know what JK is since I like typing lengthily.

    Second, Percy is a demigod-practically any strength argument is invalid-but I wasn’t arguing against his strength, just the humans in his ‘verse and their strength-amplifiers versus an incarnation of Link and his modifier.

    So my argument is valid, just not on point with the match.

  26. nsl98 November 18, 2014 at 11:23 pm -      #26

    It means just kidding. Didn’t mean to be rude. I was joking. Its like when someone brings up a logical statement and someone else counters with a completely illogical thing.

    Example: I’m so strong, I picked up a house!

    The Hulk wrestled a black hole. Your argument is invalid.

  27. Ciridae Hunter November 18, 2014 at 11:27 pm -      #27

    Ok-I am sorry for taking the snide route.

    Still, impressive universe, Percy has.

  28. Friendlysociopath November 18, 2014 at 11:29 pm -      #28

    Hmm, if Percy is a bullet-timer then that does give him a speed advantage over Link.

    “Golden Gauntlets that let him fling away pillars the size of Minas Morgul”

    Minas Morgul is a fortress, Link throws a pillar- nowhere near the same thing.

    I’d say speed and fighting skill go to Percy. Strength is probably in Link’s favor, some versions also have his invulnerability hax- not to mention his magic.

    As far as I can tell, Percy’s only hope is to kill Link right off the bat with his superior speed. If Link manages to activate his equipment or magic (Which is not instant) Percy’s probably boned.

  29. nsl98 November 18, 2014 at 11:37 pm -      #29

    @Friendly
    I wouldn’t quite count Percy out in strength:

    I turned and braced the Axe against the railing to recieve his charge. He didn’t even slow down.
    …..
    I lifted him by the legs and tossed him over the side of the bridge.

  30. nsl98 November 18, 2014 at 11:39 pm -      #30

    Last Olympian p. 187

    Basically, Percy threw a 10-foot tall humanoid bull over a bridge with his bare hands.

  31. Ciridae Hunter November 18, 2014 at 11:54 pm -      #31

    I didn’t say the mass I said the size of Minas Morgul; when someone asks what size shoe you wear, you don’t give the density and mass of the shoe-rather, you say, “oh, it’s a size n”.

    looking at it, Minas Morgul is taller-but still!

  32. General Joshua Hundell of the Trans-Dimentional Fleet November 19, 2014 at 12:16 am -      #32

    Pretty sure Percy could just go, fuck you and choke on on your own spittle.

  33. Friendlysociopath November 19, 2014 at 12:19 am -      #33

    …Minas Morgul is an entire building, a pillar is a piece of a building. I’m still going on about this purely for closure. Your shoe metaphor even missed the mark, a better version would be comparing a shoe-lace to the entire shoe.

    www.desktopwallpapers4.me/artistic/gollum-and-minas-morgul-the-lord-of-the-rings-18632/

  34. Ciridae Hunter November 19, 2014 at 3:32 am -      #34

    In some cases that is true, but obelisks are pillars and aren’t considered a part of any buildings.

    Other than that, yea, your metaphor was more on the mark (thought my metaphor would have been spot-on if the context was tweaked a little)

    General, Percy was restricted in his powers because we wanted to not have stomping-no fun in a stomp match, kiddo (unless that’s what you like).

  35. General Joshua Hundell of the Trans-Dimentional Fleet November 19, 2014 at 4:04 am -      #35

    @ hunter
    What ever happens happens

  36. Ciridae Hunter November 19, 2014 at 4:08 am -      #36

    If I came off as a deuchy bastard I was in a Borderlands mood so I apologize if I used any colorful or unique dialogue.

    Probably be sleeping by the time you reply but what to you mean by that, General (is your username referencing something?)?

  37. General Joshua Hundell of the Trans-Dimentional Fleet November 19, 2014 at 4:15 am -      #37

    Plz its after 4 in the morning here, and its a reference to an unwritten fanfic that is essentialy a combo poopoo platter multiverse of my favorite sci-fi and mecha franchises such as gundam and halo

  38. Ciridae Hunter November 19, 2014 at 4:21 am -      #38

    So your name is a Haldam reference-nice!

    How long have you been up? Been on a sixty-three hour bender of Irish coffee and beta-testing (don’t do it unless you have the training for it-fucks your shit up if you don’t)

    Let me just say that Gundam fighting a Covenant fleet is the best mental image that I have had for a few days.

  39. General Joshua Hundell of the Trans-Dimentional Fleet November 19, 2014 at 4:30 am -      #39

    Have no idea what haldam is but now i have to look into it, i slept for less than an hour before waking up in a sweat plus i’ve been there before (go ARMY), and even the original story i came up with has at least 2 AUs

  40. Ciridae Hunter November 19, 2014 at 4:33 am -      #40

    Percy’s arrow-timing could spell disaster for him with the TP Link since he would be going up against bomb arrows; he might be able to feel the arrow, but he would have to avoid making any contact with the big round bombs-after all, those things take out plenty of enemies more heavily armored and generally More annoying than Percy.

    Other than that, I see Percy taking it from HW Link and possibly struggling or losing against WW/PH Link.

  41. Ciridae Hunter November 19, 2014 at 4:35 am -      #41

    Haldam is Halo and Gundam mashed together-like funtabulicious and sextaculous, or ShockScream (y’know, Shockwave and StarScream).

    Yea, Army sucks (CO’s loved me, though)

  42. General Joshua Hundell of the Trans-Dimentional Fleet November 19, 2014 at 4:43 am -      #42

    Dont forget mass effect, stargate, and transformers.

    I actually enjoyed the ARMY, it was literaly the most fun i’ve ever had, yet i had never been so stressed in my life

  43. Ciridae Hunter November 19, 2014 at 4:49 am -      #43

    Haldam-Marformate

    Sounds like an ancient being or something-it was fun but the Army was too much bullshit and beurocratic deuchbaggery to take for more than a three-year

  44. General Joshua Hundell of the Trans-Dimentional Fleet November 19, 2014 at 4:56 am -      #44

    Lol it does and thank you the next arc in the story.

    No back on topic, if there is any water nearby percy stomps a new asshole into any one version of link, now it were a composite link than well things get so lopsided its not even funny.

  45. Ciridae Hunter November 19, 2014 at 5:02 am -      #45

    I assume there would have to be for the WW/PH version since a lot of his things involve his two ships and the seas.

    It really doesn’t matter with the HW one since Dynasty Warriors is just hack-and-slash therapy so we could expect the same of that Link.

    TP Link wouldn’t be drowned since he has the Zora Suit and water bombs (seriously TP is all ’bout the ‘splosives).

    I have to go to sleep to prepare for the migraine, so I bid thee farewell ’til the morrow.

  46. General Joshua Hundell of the Trans-Dimentional Fleet November 19, 2014 at 5:23 am -      #46

    Same to you, and srsly Percy will win.

  47. LadyRamkin November 19, 2014 at 6:45 am -      #47

    “It really doesn’t matter with the HW one since Dynasty Warriors is just hack-and-slash therapy so we could expect the same of that Link.”

    Except for all of the bosses, which include: Ganondorf(new incarnation)
    Ghirahim (skyward sword)
    Zant (twilight princess)
    Volga who is new but apears to have all the powers of volvagia (Ocarina of Time), Gohma(various zelda games)
    king Dodongo(ocarina of time)
    Manhandla (various zelda games)
    Argorok (Twilight princes)
    The imprisoned one (Skyward sword)

    And considering the plot for Hyurle warriors these are supposed to be the actual bosses from their respective games. And Hyrule warriors link takes them out much quicker and easier than any other link has.
    You also seem to be overlooking his fighting prowess because he fights “Cannon fodder”. Most of this canon fodder is about man sized or bigger and hyrule warriors link effortlessly flings hundreds of them through the air. Hyrule warriors link also has various weapons, like the Fire rod, which essential grants pyrokinisis and the gauntlets which grant him the same strength as the golden gauntlets.

    I have no idea if Hyrule warriors link can beat Percy, but i feel that you are entirely discounting him because he fights “Cannon fodder”, which is a bit unfair

  48. nsl98 November 19, 2014 at 7:17 am -      #48

    @LadyRamkin
    How much do those golden gauntlets increase Warriors Link strength?

  49. LadyRamkin November 19, 2014 at 7:26 am -      #49

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Te8JaWMP_E
    is the best i can do

  50. nsl98 November 19, 2014 at 7:30 am -      #50

    Alright… that was really impressive. Hyrule Warriors Link looks like he could match or even beat Percy in strength.

  51. LadyRamkin November 19, 2014 at 7:34 am -      #51

    They also give him lightning powers.

  52. nsl98 November 19, 2014 at 7:36 am -      #52

    Yeah I saw that. Looked kinda like a repulsor blast from iron man. But Percy has tanked lightning before.

  53. nsl98 November 19, 2014 at 7:39 am -      #53

    Jason roared. A bolt of lightning arced out of the clear blue sky. It ricocheted off his gladius and blasted Percy off his horse.
    Mark of Athena p. 132

  54. nsl98 November 19, 2014 at 9:46 pm -      #54

    Aw crap,triple post. :( Does anyone know if Hyrule Warriors Link has an equivalent to the magic armor that some Links have?

  55. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 12:50 am -      #55

    Percy has a much higher degree of skill compared to Warriors Link, since the best he has to face are fodder and a few difficult leaders; giant fodder is fodder and a big pile of shit is still just a pile of shit (don’t mistake this as me calling you a pile of shit since I don’t even know you well enough to make that assessment). Was this “effortless flinging of man-sized fodder” in the trailer, or did you actually play the game, observe every frame, and count each flung-not necessarily dead-fodder enemy? Trailers are hype meant to get sales and can even make a pile of crap look like platinum-armored Jesus walking on a golden lake (just look at the Transformers movies-so much wasted potential).

    Percy has experience with things that are much older, smarter, and stronger than fodder dudes from Warriors-he fights gods, whereas Link has only ever fought people trying to lay claim to the Goddesses’ power.

  56. LadyRamkin November 20, 2014 at 8:04 am -      #56

    @nsl98
    No, Hyrule warriors link doesn’t have any form of invincibility.

    @Ciridae Hunter
    Having played, beaten and enjoyed Hyrule warriors, I can assure you that pretty much every attack sends characters a fair distance. Now your insistence that the enemies being fodder makes Warriors link useless confuses me. Are you trying to say that not being a particularly difficult enemy somehow means you have less mass????
    Link can fling multiple man sized targets with a single swing, this implies great strength, im not even going to pretend i can do the maths, but dismissing this feat because of the enemies fodder status is silly.

    “observe every frame, and count each flung-not necessarily dead-fodder enemy”

    whether or not that swing killed them is irrelevant, he can still throw them that distance with no effort.

    “giant fodder is fodder”
    —-
    … I don’t think we have the same definition of fodder, and even if we did your insinuation that being fodder reduces the feat to meaninglessness is stupid (no offence)
    —-
    “people trying to lay claim to the Goddesses’ power”

    Well, Ghirahim is a living sword created by a demon that rivaled the power of a zelda god.
    Zant was granted power by a Ganondorf with the triforce of power which is the power of the gods
    and Ganondorf has the triforce of power, which as i just said is the power of the gods.

  57. LadyRamkin November 20, 2014 at 8:13 am -      #57

    @Ciridae Hunter
    ” Was this “effortless flinging of man-sized fodder” in the trailer, or did you actually play the game”

    if you watch the video i posted, everything past the 25 second mark is gameplay, everything before that is in game cut scene, which is also canon, so….

  58. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 9:08 am -      #58

    So which Links have the best shot at winning out of the three in question?

  59. LadyRamkin November 20, 2014 at 11:10 am -      #59

    I’d say Warriors Link has the best odds since he has the greatest combat feats. With WindWaker Link being the second most likely, due to a combination of invincibility, iron boots, power bracelet and really powerful magic arrows. I cant stress enough that i don’t know anything about Percy so i cant actually tell you how likely i think it is for them to win.

  60. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 11:25 am -      #60

    I posted feats for Percy earlier in the thread. Bullet timing, tossing around a humanoid bull, and lightning tanking. Personally, I’m thinking HW Link has the best chance

  61. LadyRamkin November 20, 2014 at 11:26 am -      #61

    WindWaker Link also gets his stuff from Phantom hourglass which means that he also gets blade beams, a fiery sword and a defensive aura that can stun enemies he touches. Though i think he can only have one active at a time.

  62. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 11:29 am -      #62

    “Blade beams”
    How fast do these go?

    “Fiery Sword”
    Percy has had lava poured on him.

    “Defensive aura ”
    I’d like to hear more about this.

  63. LadyRamkin November 20, 2014 at 11:30 am -      #63

    @nsl98
    Yes, yes you did. But i don’t have and first hand knowledge of him. I don’t know if he can always dodge bullets or if that was a situational thing, i don’t know if he can tank the equivalent damage a lightning strike can do, or if he just has lightning resistance, maybe it was magic lightning and he just has magic resistance. Because i know so little about him im not willing to say who can beat him and why just who i think has the best chance to maybe do it.

  64. LadyRamkin November 20, 2014 at 11:36 am -      #64

    I’m not really sure. i haven’t played phantom hourglass in years, i just vaguely remember that he can do those things. All im really doing is posting things until someone that knows what they are doing shows up to defend link.

    A general internet search has told me that the fire sword gives him quadrupedal damage and the aura gives him quadrupedal defense.

  65. LadyRamkin November 20, 2014 at 11:59 am -      #65

    ^quadruple not quadrupedal

    Twilight princess Link sometimes has quadrupedal attack/defense, but unfortunately not in this match.

  66. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 12:05 pm -      #66

    OriginalA was around the site a few days ago. He knows a lot about Link. Looking back at a lot of link vs stuff, this site used to have a lot of link fans. Where’d they go?

  67. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 12:50 pm -      #67

    Wait, why wouldn’t TP Link have access to quadruple defenses?

  68. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 4:10 pm -      #68

    Lady Ramkin, they all tried to lay claim to the Goddesses’ powers, so making it sound like you were going to contradict me only to prove my point is rather ill-advised.

    Second, fighting really easy enemies in games AND in real life makes you used to fighting them; for games, it means you get to a point (at least in exp-based games) where you gain no experience and makes you unprepared for sudden tactics changes and in real life makes you complacent and over-confident in your abilities until someone stronger comes and whips you (I call it the Palpatine Parable-catchy isn’t it?).

    Has the concept “the bigger they are…” crossed your mind? Every media source has shown this to be true. A good anime example is Tengen Toppa Gurrenn Lagann and literally EVERY beastman and their gunmen save Viral and Enkido; some of them are monumental, yet all of them-debatably with years of experience, are crushed by humans who have barely piloted for a few weeks. In Dark Souls, the Sentinels of Anor Londo, the Iron Golem of Sen’s Fortress, Smough and Ornstein, and practically every other gigantic boss/enemy are trivial. The Nazis constructed the world’s biggest artillery piece, yet it’s structural integrity could be compromised with a small explosion at the base. The Mountain in Game of Thrones was mercilessly hacking at villagers for “training” and was taken out by Oberyn, a smaller, more mobile, and more skilled opponent than the villagers (also showing the Palpatine Parable until Oberyn had to go egotistic on him).

  69. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 4:13 pm -      #69

    If this is neutral ground, then some of all Link items will be unable to work at full capacity or at all (such as the giant leaf in Wind Waker or the TP top thing).

  70. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 4:44 pm -      #70

    Hyrule Warriors Link has still been in training to be a Hylian Knight for an unknown amount of time, presumably a lot has he probably has more formal training than any other Link could say.

    And it still doesn’t change the fact that HW Link casually throws around man sized enemies with little visible effort.

  71. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 4:55 pm -      #71

    But who needs effort when one uses magic-enhancement; if he took roids, then people would say “that cheating motherfucker”, whereas using magic roids is “oh em gee, dat be mercin’ up in here! YOLO, Link!”

    That was a dramatization.

    The moral of the story is that he does all of his super feats with magic, whereas Percy is a demigod that might use it instinctually but might not need it at all or doesn’t heavily and deliberately use it unless forced. You could change the winds and fuck every other sailor exept yourself, or you could wait-or change directions. You could use years of training (since it is unknown and Zelda is getting herself caught despite her intellect, it could be all of five minutes and a shitty prophecy loop) to honorably challenge foes, or you could say “fuck honor” and incapacitate enemies with magic and slaughter them while they’re down.

  72. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 4:57 pm -      #72

    TP Link throws golden insects in Percy’s face, blinding him to make the finishing blow!

    If only he was a dirty fighter…*sigh*

  73. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 4:59 pm -      #73

    Are you saying Link took magic steroids?
    zelda.com/hyrule-warriors/characters/

    Just click on Links portrait.

  74. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 5:02 pm -      #74

    Percy’s magic use is more like adrenaline, whereas Link’s is more along the line of magic roids since he couldn’t normally lift godly pillars and do Major Armstrong feats with his lanky build.

  75. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 5:07 pm -      #75

    Just watched the video-impressive speed, that alone gives him better odds than WW/PH Link and TP Link, but yes, that was magic when his STABS could fling that many enemies at once (since a stab is usually, you know…meant for one guy).

  76. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 5:08 pm -      #76

    Percy has never used magic. His powers come from being a son of Poseidon. He inherited traits that he and his father share, only Percy does it on a smaller scale.

  77. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 5:11 pm -      #77

    @LadyRamkin
    Since your the only one in this thread (I think) who has played Hyrule Warriors, was Link enchanted in that game? Or is this incarnation just that good?

  78. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 5:11 pm -      #78

    Even better, then.

    Oh, does Link have potions or the godly milk of Hylian cows (seriously, imagine the Army using that)

  79. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 5:13 pm -      #79

    Wait, you couldn’t tell he was using magic in the trailer? They don’t make swords that well (except the Master Sword, but his trailer sword was the Hylian Sword)

  80. LadyRamkin November 20, 2014 at 5:13 pm -      #80

    “Lady Ramkin, they all tried to lay claim to the Goddesses’ powers, so making it sound like you were going to contradict me only to prove my point is rather ill-advised.”

    Neither Zant nor Ghirahim ever attempted to claim the triforce, ever. And while Ganondorf did try to claim it, he actually succeeded. You bizarre attempts to belittle these characters is… bizarre.

    “Second, fighting really easy enemies in games AND in real life makes you used to fighting them; for games, it means you get to a point (at least in exp-based games) where you gain no experience and makes you unprepared for sudden tactics changes and in real life makes you complacent and over-confident in your abilities until someone stronger comes and whips you (I call it the Palpatine Parable-catchy isn’t it?).”

    Nothing you said here is relevant…. to anything, at all.

    “Has the concept “the bigger they are…” crossed your mind? ”
    —-
    I really dont get what your problem is. Warriors link can throw man sized targets a good distance with his basic attacks. and your response is “that doesnt matter cos they arnt strong”….
    So what? they are still heavy, how good they are at combat doesn’t matter.
    He also easily defeats bosses from other zelda games, to which you have said, (that dont matter cos they are big”…..
    Their size is irrelevant, their hype is irrelevant. Other links have beat these bosses, warriors link beats them easier, the point is he has more combat prowess than other links.
    —-
    “But who needs effort when one uses magic-enhancement; if he took roids, then people would say “that cheating motherfucker”, whereas using magic roids is “oh em gee, dat be mercin’ up in here! YOLO, Link!””

    Nothing you said here is relevant…. to anything, at all.
    —-
    “The moral of the story is that he does all of his super feats with magic”

    1) prove that. go on.
    2) and Percy DOESN’T??????????? He’s a demigod, magic is kind of there by default
    —-
    “You could change the winds and fuck every other sailor exept yourself, or you could wait-or change directions. You could use years of training (since it is unknown and Zelda is getting herself caught despite her intellect, it could be all of five minutes and a shitty prophecy loop) to honorably challenge foes, or you could say “fuck honor” and incapacitate enemies with magic and slaughter them while they’re down.”

    Nothing you said here is relevant…. to anything, at all.

    “If only he was a dirty fighter…*sigh*”

    He is. unless you think bomb arrows are fair and honorable?

  81. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 5:18 pm -      #81

    I don’t get it. What’s wrong with using magic to do things?

  82. Commander Cross November 20, 2014 at 5:20 pm -      #82

    *Is feeling royally impulsed to delete all before me in Hell-fire after hearing the 50 post count’s been exceeded before the return journey’s completed, but holds the impulses and focuses on the mission and main goal behind today’s return*

    @Nsl98 at #67

    Like I said before, some of them have been slain recently up until July 2014, the majority of the people in this match are all that’s left unless we find some way to contact Draco, Marcel and whoever else is left.

    WW/PH Link and TP Link did fight someone equal to by Tier if not more dangerous than the Black Throne!-Sworn Titans, at the very least as the Titans’ weakened majority were since most of the ones Percy fought were re-released.
    Even one individual incarnation of Ganondorf is no one to take lightly by any imagination’s stretch, and I’ve no doubt the same kind of incentive with ‘Plot Seiz Su’* may have been going on, even despite all that, it’s not good to deny the threats each side had to deal with happened to be Top-Notch to say the least.

    —-

    In terms of Physical Might barring enhancements, TP Link is every bit Percy’s Equal in terms of strength, Combat Speed favors Percy even barring Water, but TP Link also had to fight mobile foes.
    I can’t remember if any in mind might have gone with 14-21 strikes per second, let alone 28-35 Sword strikes per second.*

    This is assuming any of my recollections are correct, because if any are wrong then I apologize.

    I know that WW/PH Link fought more Casual Super-Human or Immortal Enemies than TP Link did, and I don’t remember where HW Link stands next to WW/PH Link in those regards, but other than Zant or TP Ganondorf, I feel sad I can’t recall too much on TP Link’s foes compared to WW/PH Link’s from at least during The events of The WindWaker, actually. ;_;

    I can recall that if they’re allowed, The Multi-Vitamins are Percy’s Friend, for the one reason that deserves mentioning:

    —–

    You remember Some things that can tank DIRECT OFFENSIVE SUPERNATURAL ATTACKS in general?*

    Picture The Multi-Vitamins providing those kinds of benefits to no-sell Direct Offensive Supernatural Attacks in general for the generous total of a few minutes* once they’re activated.

    They’d only be especially a Must-Have against HW Link or WW/PH Link, TP Link himself can’t apply any Direct Magical Attacks on his own despite having The Blood of N64 Link in his veins.

    I don’t doubt getting hit by The Master Sword will hurt Percy even if he’s not Evil or anything of the sort, and even then each of the 3 listed Links have an Individual Sword other than The Master Sword just for show.

    This will take a while and a bloody lot more than one page will provide, isn’t it?

    I’ll be as worn out as The Abyss by the end of it, but know that I stand by Percy and will address whatever is needed, I can only hope that by the end of the week I’ll be able to avert being dead-weight and all that jazz.

    Shall we dance?

    @Everyone else

    I can’t remember for the life of me which one of you was asking in regards to Percy tanking Thunder and Lightning, but I can assure you that the Electricity also had DIVINE properties to go with it and while it didn’t kill Percy, it still stung like a Beyotch when he got hit.
    If Percy were a ‘Vanilla’* Mortal Human, he’d be having far more visible scars on his BACK than the ones we’re seeing if he don’t die first, I know there’s image links on Tumblr for what happens when someone got hit with it, but needless to say that it takes a lot more than that to scar Percy.
    Nevermind that Percy got hit with Divine Thunder and Lightning.

    Mind if I add more on what to say?

    ——

    Percy could be trained to use Magic, but the only confirmed displays of any Magic he could do thus far is being able to control The Golden Myst by varying degrees and extents.

    Otherwise, you’re thinking one of his cousins in either Nico Di Angelo or Alabaster C. Torrington of the Hecate/Hekate Cabin, or even Lou Ellen who’s a half-sister to Torrington, but the former two have more confirming of Magic Knight-like tendencies than Lou does.

    1.) (By ‘Plot Seiz Su’, I mean it’s bloody well-noted that most of the Titans Percy fought were weakened as I said, before, it’d never surprise me on its own of the same kind of thing was going on with Ganondorf in some way or another. Different Circumstances but it rings louder bells on Ganondorf than it does on most of The Black Throne Titans fought.)
    2.) (The 14-21 strikes per second is low-balling, the high-balling if you bar Styx Enhancements would lie in the 28-35 Strike Ranges.)
    3.) (Such as The Blessings of Merlin or Khorne, the former belonging to The Knights of The Round Table that proved their worth.)
    4.) (About 5 Minutes for low-balling’s sake.)
    5.) (Advanced English for ‘Genetically Normal’ Human.)

  83. LadyRamkin November 20, 2014 at 5:22 pm -      #83

    Warriors Link is the hero chosen by the gods, he is super skilled because he is link the reincarnation of the Hero’s spirit. He has no inherent magic, he doesn’t even get his power from the Triforce of courage since he is still that good even when he loses it. He is just that good.

  84. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 5:25 pm -      #84

    Ghirahim kidnapped Zelda so he could use her power to break the seal over Demise, though Zant was, admittedly, not seeking the power since he was BA and didn’t care. Gannondorf exploits the power but doesn’t fully use it; do you think that someone with the combined power of creation could lose to a blonde kid in a tunic?

    There’s a chance to miss with bomb arrows, they are really easy to see, and their range is reduced thanks to the added bomb weight. So yes, they are more honorable than magic of that scale.

    Percy can’t help if he uses magic-he was born as a demigod, so some of it is instinctual, not to mention all of the wuotes imply more instinct than “I called the ocean and it bent to my will” kind of stuff.

    It is relevant-Link uses magic where it isn’t exactly a necessity and people do react that way to steroids and magic (though one is restricted to virtual or synthetic worlds.

    He can throw them that far WITH MAGIC! Not with his own two hands! He is supposedly a knight, yet he doesn’t show any more skill than the characters of Dynasty Warriors-does he parry? Does he feint attacks? Does he effortlessly flow from one guy to the next, killing with a precise blow? No!

  85. LadyRamkin November 20, 2014 at 5:32 pm -      #85

    “He can throw them that far WITH MAGIC!”

    Prove that. No where is it ever stated that warriors link can use magic. So you need to prove your statement.

    “Ghirahim kidnapped Zelda so he could use her power to break the seal over Demise,”
    —-
    a completely human, non god Zelda who Didn’t have the Triforce.

    “Gannondorf exploits the power but doesn’t fully use it; do you think that someone with the combined power of creation could lose to a blonde kid in a tunic?”
    —-
    none of the Ganondorfs that are relevant to this conversation ever got the full Triforce and therefore never had the “combined power of creation”
    —-
    “There’s a chance to miss with bomb arrows,”

    Oh noes, he can miss with his ranged explosive that can be shot at you while you cant see him. how honorable.

    “Percy can’t help if he uses magic-he was born as a demigod, so some of it is instinctual, ”
    —-
    ….? So, what you are saying is that you think that link consciously uses magic, so it obviously isn’t as good as Percys magic?? Really????

  86. Commander Cross November 20, 2014 at 5:35 pm -      #86

    I’m gonna go withhold any and all potentially detailed spoilers until we hit Page 02 onward, but I can’t remember which specified Link were we dwelling on regarding the ones listed.

    Even I already noted that ‘Hero of Legends!-‘Link(ALttP/Oracles/LA Link) would have had a regard like this as his fight to lose unless Percy starts applying The Multi-Vitamins ASAP.

    So even if Percy applies The Vitamins, HW Link would still be a Royally Tough Cookie!?
    This is pleasant news to me, and I’d hope for no less than that.

    Fair to warn you that Post-Titan War Percy took some Psychological Scarring as the price he paid for the Styx Enhancements he had, and Post-THoH Percy’s even more scarred up and even less jollier if it means anything.

    I feel as though nothing was cleared up too well in regards to gear, but if HW Link gets either Epona or that Awesome Bird, Percy gets BlackJack.*

    ——
    This thread’s on the verge of going Horrible on me, not unlike that one time I’ve read Hogwarts vs Camp Half-Blood on ComicVine once.
    Not the Match in itself, but the klutzy firing about on questions and all that jazz, what’s going on here!?

    1.) (The Amazing Horse, while I grant you that Epona is more Epic, BlackJack is still Amazing in his own right!)

  87. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 5:41 pm -      #87

    Ocarina of Time would disagree with your Gannondorf statement.

    Do stealth mechanics even exist for TP? Because I sure as hell didn’t see any. A single, precise point, flying a great distance to make a very small AoE blast is BOUNDS more honorable than unblockable, undodgeable magic.

    Really? So his sword was charging all of that non-magical energy to use the great spin attack-the staple AoE sword attack that requires magic to use? This isn’t Dark Souls this is Legend of Zelda; you don’t use a magic attack at the cost of some durability, you use magic and tank it like a balla.

    Really? I didn’t know that about Skyward Sword. I admit to a faulty statement about her, then.

    All I am saying is that if Link was such a skilled knight he wouldn’t need magic to kill Percy-he would just go Raidriar on his ass.

  88. LadyRamkin November 20, 2014 at 5:49 pm -      #88

    “Ocarina of Time would disagree with your Gannondorf statement.”

    No, it doesn’t. before Ganondorf claims the full Trifore it splits into 3 which is where link and zelda get their pieces.

    “Do stealth mechanics even exist for TP? Because I sure as hell didn’t see any”

    You don’t need stealth mechanics to stand out of an enemies sight range??

    “A single, precise point, flying a great distance to make a very small AoE blast is BOUNDS more honorable than unblockable, undodgeable magic.”

    Warriors link can be blocked. By many, many things.
    —-
    “Really? So his sword was charging all of that non-magical energy to use the great spin attack-the staple AoE sword attack that requires magic to use?”

    Not every spin attack requires magic. OoT link, and wind wakers link does, unfortunately we are talking about Warriors link, proof of magic please.
    —-
    “This isn’t Dark Souls this is Legend of Zelda; you don’t use a magic attack at the cost of some durability, you use magic and tank it like a balla.”

    Unless you are like say, twilight princess link and dont have magic.
    —-
    “All I am saying is that if Link was such a skilled knight he wouldn’t need magic to kill Percy-he would just go Raidriar on his ass.”

    1) Percy uses magic, instinctively or not, by choice or not he uses it. If he didn’t have magic he would just be a standard human.
    2) You still haven’t stated that warriors link has magic that he needs to use to kill Percy
    3) are you saying he isnt skilled because he cant kill a DEMI-GOD without magic???????

  89. LadyRamkin November 20, 2014 at 5:56 pm -      #89

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvbxQbyoLbg&t=1m7s

    Link chillin in the training yard

  90. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 6:01 pm -      #90

    Warriors Link isn’t skilled with the sword enough where he could contend with Percy’s instinct. Also, since Link is an incarnation of the spirit of the Hero and is favored by the gods, that does mean that he has all of that spirits power and-since Gannondorf has always had the use of at least one Triforce, meaning the power of a goddess, then that would make him like the Deathless (only less skilled with a sword, since every incarnation needs to be retaught) making him equivalent in at least their spirit.

    Really? Each one of those finishers-that second stab should have been apparent enough-that he used on the grunts used magic; how in the hell else could he possibly hit that many with a STAB!?

    Ocarina Gannondorf does acquire the goddesses’ power-where do you say it “split apart” and how could a guy who lost his Triforce possibly mess with Gannondorf’s mojo?

  91. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 6:12 pm -      #91

    Why do you use fodder Hylian soldiers (if you say they aren’t fodder then anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of reality) to display skills? Find a clip of Link using superior tactics, skills, and no magic against a vastly superior enemy (main villain, perhaps?) to prove his hand with a sword isn’t one of a weed-whacker.

    Does anyone else hate the prophecy loop as much as I do? No one knows who wrote the prophecy-a very good example is show in “To Green Angel Tower: Part Two”-so why follow the Path of the Chosen One when you could (in Zelda’s case) actually lead your people, mobilize troops, train magic-users, and hire assassins? All the Shiekah are are glorified assassins-turned-bodyguards, so why not send a few to covertly take the Master Sword or some other divine weapon and shove it up a bad guy’s ass?

    Plus Zelda always looks weak, which never sat well with me.

  92. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 6:16 pm -      #92

    @Cridae
    “How in the hell else could he possibly hit that many with a STAB?!”

    Um, maybe because within HW Links canon, he is known for being the fastest out of the army. It even says so in that LiNK I posted.

  93. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 6:18 pm -      #93

    So show me how he moves to each enemy, stabs them, then flings them away all with just speed.

    The Great Spin is proof enough that he uses magic-the second stab is WAY more proof than needed, and speeds of that magnitude would have to require some form of supernatural manipulation: ergo, magic.

  94. LadyRamkin November 20, 2014 at 6:20 pm -      #94

    @Ciridae Hunter
    First of you are making less and less sense but i’ll respond the best i can.

    “Warriors Link isn’t skilled with the sword enough where he could contend with Percy’s instinct.”

    You, who have apparently never played Hyrule warriors, have somehow determined how skilled Link is and then compared that skill to Percy’s instinct (which is obviously super uber hax)

    “Also, since Link is an incarnation of the spirit of the Hero and is favored by the gods, that does mean that he has all of that spirits power ”

    The spirit of the hero doesn’t have any innate power other than having an unbreakable spirit. which isnt really a power as it is a character trait.

    “and-since Gannondorf has always had the use of at least one Triforce, meaning the power of a goddess, then that would make him like the Deathless (only less skilled with a sword, since every incarnation needs to be retaught) making him equivalent in at least their spirit.”
    —-
    I have no idea what you are trying to say here
    But Ganondorf is the reincarnation of Demise’s hatred. Demise was a Demon with enough power to go toe-to-toe with the Goddess Hylia. So Ganondorf is pretty powerful without the Trifroce of Power. which he always has to acquire in some way, except in twilight princess where he just… got it, but that was due to timeline split shenanigans.

    “Really? Each one of those finishers-that second stab should have been apparent enough-that he used on the grunts used magic; how in the hell else could he possibly hit that many with a STAB!?”

    Air pressure, Ki, Deus ex protagonist strength. There are many explanations. I do agree that it is probably magical in nature, but as you are so keen to point out, there is a difference between having magic(like Percy) and using magic.

    “Ocarina Gannondorf does acquire the goddesses’ power-where do you say it “split apart””

    Yes, he gets the Triforce of Power, and at the same time Zelda gets the Triforce of Wisdom and Link gets the Triforce of Courage.
    But he NEVER gets the full Triforce which would be the “combined power of creation” as you described it.

    “and how could a guy who lost his Triforce possibly mess with Gannondorf’s mojo?”

    By being Link, With the Master Sword. The Blade of Evils Bane. “A link to the past” link defeated his version of Ganondorf…. and he not only had the full Triforce but also the dark spear.

    Imma go now. its 11:20 pm here and i need to be up tommorow.

  95. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 6:32 pm -      #95

    you have kept denying and denying that Warriors Link uses magic, yet you presume to say that a powerless dude with a long sword could mess with a guy with a Demon’s hatred and the power of the Goddesses? After arguing Ki-the equivalent of harnessing the inner spirit-AND Deus Ex mechanics (no way in bloody fucking hell plain air pressure could do that without magic or a hurricane backing it)? This is why I hate the prophecy loop-it does my make any logical sense.

    I was talking about Infinity Blade (it’s kind of meh in terms of how likable the main characters are but Raidriar always made my inner jackass smile).

    @everyone
    Where is the fight taking place? Terrain and where they start could affect the whole thing (like if Link was on top of a hill or if he was in a valley with Percy standing atop the cliff). Is it sunny? Windy? Raining cats and dogs? This is just me wanting a background for the art, so it’s kind of meh in terms of importance.

  96. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 6:35 pm -      #96

    Generally with matches that don’t have a specified location, a neutral battlefield is where it will take place. And by neutral, it means a battleground that let’s both sides operate with maximum efficiency. You can check the rules for more details

  97. Ciridae Hunter November 20, 2014 at 6:39 pm -      #97

    Its going to look weird with all of the item accommodations.

    What other feats does Percy have? All I have to go in is stuff that I saw in the Red Lotus team match against Percy, Col. Mustang, Toph, and Temari.

  98. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 6:48 pm -      #98

    @CC
    Good to know you’re back

  99. nsl98 November 20, 2014 at 6:54 pm -      #99

    @Cridae
    “Then I looked down, and realized I was standing in my own personal hurricane. Clouds of water vapor swirled around me, winds so powerful they buffered Hyperion and flattened the grass in a twenty yard radius.”

    Last Olympian p. 246

  100. Commander Cross November 20, 2014 at 6:56 pm -      #100

    Yes, if I recall correctly Demise is Ganondorf’s Father, and if I also recall correctly Demise is nothing to take lightly.
    If Demise Himself is also in HW, someone might wanna have it noted ASAP so we can gauge the Foe Quality further, preferably at Page 02 or so.

    Both Percy and HW Link had to fight very Huge Armies in Major Engagements, Percy’s most obvious instances recorded was back when he had The River Styx Enhancements, courtesy of what’s called ‘The Curse of Achilles’ but there’s an instance in The Son of Neptune when Percy had to be among those leading New Roman Forces against The Legions the Primordials have sent against them, which I don’t have the novel on me sadly.* ;_;

    My gut says HW Link is a Weapon-Master of some kind or another, no lies about it and my gut’s seldom wrong, so Swordsmanship and some Blade-Mastery’s only the Tip of the Ice-berg that’d be HW Link’s Weapon-Mastery if anything.

    Nonetheless, if Percy has the following, FoO*-edition Greek Fire Bombs are also among his ‘buddies’ if HW Link busts out any Super-Bombs to the table, I can even fetch the quoting for how those Bombs are crafted as well if anyone asks.

    Let’s be truly glad we’re not talking ‘Percy with everything he’s ever had or used in every novel’s events he’s ever been in, including The River Styx Enhancements and The Nemean Lion Armor vs. Total Composite Link’, because if we were talking about that idea, let’s just say that with Divine Entities being the only (possible) exceptions, there will be NO SURVIVORS AT ALL by the end of it, one way or another.*
    Even Worse on a Rainy Day or two while they’d be at it.

    Also, in any case, here’s hoping by the time we hit Page 02, we’d get everything in order before this winds up going in, ComicVine-Style of being a convoluted situation for Meh-worthy reasons.

    —–

    @Nsl98 at #98

    Even if it’s only temporary, it’s a blessing just to be back even if for just a moment.

    Also you ought to go make it up to me for going past the 50 post count somehow before I got back, or I’d feed you all to The Wolves.*

    1.) (Ironically speaking, Percy and WW/PH Link share more common grounds with each other than Percy and HW Link, yet HW Link has more confirmed by numerous showings of fighting Huge and Deadly Armies.)
    2.) (If I had to explain in-depth on why, frankly we’d be very much dead in ways ‘most’ variants of The Apocalypse would only dream of inflicting on us all.)
    3.) (Just kidding, but seriously, NEVER DREAM OF DOING THAT AGAIN IF IT’S AVOIDABLE UNLESS I SAY OTHERWISE, GOT IT!? 😈 )

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