TJ Combo Vs Little Mac

TJ Combo Vs Little Mac

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TJ Combo of the Killer Instinct franchise faces off against Little Mac (Punch Out/Smash Bros.).

Standard Boxing Rules apply.

Who would win?

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16 Comments on "TJ Combo Vs Little Mac"

  1. Parry Boy October 13, 2014 at 6:42 am -      #1

    As for a guy that doesn’t know their actual feats, I’m going for the guy with shiny lights on their muscles.

  2. Ellie Williams October 13, 2014 at 6:47 am -      #2

    TJ Combo was kicked out from boxing for using Cybernetic Enhancements, while Little Mac beat people like Mike Tyson and Donkey Kong. Overall, I’d say that Littlw Mac has better stats.

  3. Darth Bombad October 13, 2014 at 8:02 am -      #3

    Am i wrong or didn’t TJ have his implants removed as of the last KI?.
    Leaving him a normal and slightly over the hill fighter.

    I’d probably go with Little Mac for his ridiculous opponents.

  4. Jake_Uzumaki October 13, 2014 at 8:37 am -      #4

    So based on the OP…Smash Bros. feats are allowed? Because if that’s the case Little Mac launches TJ a few thousand feet into the air and lets gravity do the rest.

  5. Mea quidem sententia October 13, 2014 at 11:24 am -      #5

    I don’t know why Little Mac is getting feats from SSB4. Oh well.

  6. Ragnorke October 13, 2014 at 9:49 pm -      #6

    Little Macs arms have an impossible muscle design.

  7. Parry Boy October 14, 2014 at 5:30 am -      #7

    Wait, Smash Bros allowed?
    Well for one, he DID knock out Rosalina.

  8. Rhododendron October 14, 2014 at 5:44 pm -      #8

    smash feats allowed?
    —-
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_8kaE_wdk0
    ——
    ^@1:01 and on he one shots samus. and @1:40 and on has access to giga mac. added with beating DK(an ape who punched the moon to earth) in his normal form i say mac wins in a stomp
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    @Ragnorke
    eh, he’s a videogame character strong enough to fight DK. i don’t think he’s gonna have normal muscles

  9. Rhododendron October 17, 2014 at 6:32 pm -      #9

    little mac needs a more fair fight. he’s beaten/traded a guy who punched the moon to earth www.youtube.com/watch?v=LleGVbLHx2w
    —–
    idk maybe base asura or a dbz character in a melee only fight? anyone got some ideas?

  10. OriginalA October 18, 2014 at 12:38 am -      #10

    To be fair, that moon is not nearly as dense as it appears to be at face value and as such the feat in question is substantially less outstanding.

    Diddy Kong can repeat that feat by faceplanting on the moon. He doesn’t exactly carry a lot of mass on himself, so he couldn’t have been bringing a whole lot of energy to knock the moon down.

    I’d propose that the moon was precariously close to falling at any moment at all times. Donkey Kong and/or Diddy Kong were just the piece of straw that broke the cammel’s back.

    Additionally, they are in the Marioverse… the same Marioverse where Mario killed the sun with a shell.

  11. Alpha or Omega October 18, 2014 at 1:54 am -      #11

    “To be fair, that moon is not nearly as dense as it appears to be at face value and as such the feat in question is substantially less outstanding.
    /
    Diddy Kong can repeat that feat by faceplanting on the moon. He doesn’t exactly carry a lot of mass on himself, so he couldn’t have been bringing a whole lot of energy to knock the moon down.”
    /
    On the other hand, Mario also hits the moon in Paper Mario TTYD and can destroy castles just by jumping on them, yet, his jumps don’t send the moon landing to earth. Also, his upgraded hammer, the ultra hammer, can destroy giant concrete blocks and has no effect on the moon. He’s also on the same side Donkey Kong or Diddy Kong landed on as indicated by this map in said game.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ranhz7ABadk#t=165
    Also, there’s a fortress on that moon with a two-three story tall mech.
    /
    “I’d propose that the moon was precariously close to falling at any moment at all times. Donkey Kong and/or Diddy Kong were just the piece of straw that broke the cammel’s back.”
    /
    If that was true, Mario, his partners, and the X-nauts would have done it just as easily when they were on the moon.
    /
    “Additionally, they are in the Marioverse… the same Marioverse where Mario killed the sun with a shell.”
    /
    The sun in that game is different than the other sun we can see in other games.
    The same can’t be said about the moon however since the observatory room model of the moon and earth in Luigi’s mansion shows the model of the moon revolving and making revolutions around the earth model.

  12. OriginalA October 18, 2014 at 4:08 am -      #12

    “The same can’t be said about the moon however since the observatory room model of the moon and earth in Luigi’s mansion shows the model of the moon revolving and making revolutions around the earth model.”

    I honestly wasn’t expecting an argument from this angle; although it makes perfect sense since it is effectively the same as my argument, which essentially boils down to the DK moon and Mario moon are one and the same.

    Okay, agreed. They are the same moon, and those feats for Mario are valid.

    Now here’s the catch. We have now just established that Punch Out, SMB, and DKC are a shared continuity, and because they are a shared continuity they share other things… like implications. More specifically the implications of how mass functions within the Marioverse. Notably it works by inconsistent rules, although it usually works by the common rule of Bigger == More Massive, Smaller == Less Massive. Which is why Mini Mario (Mini Mushroom Power Up) cannot hurt Koopa Troopas by jumping on their head, while normal (small) Mario can push them into their shells, while Super Mario (Super Mushroom Power Up) can utterly crush them with a spin jump (citation SMW), while Mega Mario (Mega Mushroom power up) can casually walk around and destroy the terrain.

    I bring this up to emphasis a point. Namely that point being our preconceptions of mass and physics are not entirely valid within the Marioverse. That castle that Mario can punt? It’s tiny compared to what it was just seconds before that scene. If physics are consistent within the Marioverse in how things are shown, then that feat is incredibly less impressive than it would be otherwise. Bowser’s Inside Story also supports this consistent portrayal of size == mass.

    Now let’s look at that moon.
    pinkkittyrose.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=868&g2_serialNumber=2

    That’s… actually rather tiny. Compare that to this:
    d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/earthmoon.png

    While I don’t deny the moon’s existence in Luigi’s Mansion, I would be remiss if I didn’t point out smaller orbiting objects do exist in the Marioverse:
    www.mariowiki.com/images/2/24/RavenMoon2.gif

    Also, when you watch the DKCR ending, when the moon is being launched back up into the air, its size doesn’t change with the distance it travels. This means that either it is constantly changing size as it moves, or more likely that it its size remains the same and it simply doesn’t go very far. That would mean that the “moon” in DKCR is not actually orbiting the planet from some ~1.3 lightseconds out like our Moon does. More like 80k kilometers.

    I’d cite Super Mario Galaxy for wonky gravity mechanics. There are plenty of examples in that game to establish that the gravity of two massive objects can casually ignore each other and remain at a relative rest position from each other as opposed to mutually attracting each other in and either smashing into each other or just barely missing and stuck in a perpetual fall.

    So… the DK Moon Punch feat is now kinda meaningless because A) it probably isn’t the moon since it is too small, B) physics don’t work like we expect them to so all of the math is wrong, and C) how the hell did the “moon” suddenly loose momentum when it was placed back into its spot in the sky?

    I’m not saying DK isn’t strong, or that his feat isn’t impressive… but he did not knock a 7.3477×10^22 kg object out of orbit. If he had then he punched it the wrong way. He punched it “down” to the Earth… the way to return an object to the surface from a stable orbit is to decelerate it by moving it in the direction opposite of its current orbit path, which would have meant punching it west to east (assuming it follows the same path as ours, which is east to west).

  13. Alpha or Omega October 18, 2014 at 11:24 am -      #13

    Okay, I’ll concede that the moon in DKC: R is a different body orbiting earth and it’s too small to be the same one and that physics shouldn’t be the same. But, even if the physics of Mario revolves around size determine mass, Donkey Kong should be fairly strong since that smaller moon is still bigger than the Island Donkey Kong Country takes place in.
    /
    While Super Mario Galaxy shows that the gravity is different than ours, we still see that some celestial bodies in the Mario Galaxy games, the aforementioned Luigi’s Mansion’s Observatory room’s model, and some Mario Party games show that their gravity does have our characteristics of our universe’s gravity as well as different characteristics.

  14. Rhododendron October 18, 2014 at 1:52 pm -      #14

    @OriginalA
    Soo is mac thus the strongest marioverse character comparable to his size?
    —–
    “That’s… actually rather tiny. Compare that to this:”
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    ^depends just how big IS dk’s island and marios earth, i mean you can clearly see the curvature of the earth on the dk image.
    —-
    as for diddy kong iirc wasn’t his jetpack what gave him said force, that said both diddy and kongare related so should have comparable durability.
    —–
    “how the hell did the “moon” suddenly loose momentum when it was placed back into its spot in the sky?”
    —–
    idk that evil tiki idol he hit in the head with it sent it back before passing out?

    on a side note little macs gloved fists hurt a being who can survive reentry from space.

  15. OriginalA October 19, 2014 at 12:19 am -      #15

    “^depends just how big IS dk’s island and marios earth, i mean you can clearly see the curvature of the earth on the dk image.”

    Take another look at OUR moon.
    amazing-space.stsci.edu/news/archive/2006/03/graphics/xena_size_compare.jpg

    Unless the Mario world is ginormous compared to Earth, which I doubt, that can only mean that the object DK punched is considerably smaller than our Moon. In this picture you can clearly see the curvature of the Earth, and it is a rather obvious curve. … You can also see that the Moon about 1/50th the Earth’s total volume. The planet in the Marioverse could easily fit 1000 of those objects that DK punched on the surface alone, to say nothing of the total volume. And considering that the DK shack is a sizable bit a geography, as well as the wrecked ships in previous games, and the size of those ships are known since they are levels… DK himself would have to be King Kong sized and everything around him scaled up to size well for that to be even possible. To top it off we know that can’t be true because Nintendo has released size charts that put DK and Mario at reasonable heights (they were measured against the cast of Zelda, which while also ambiguous it does not dwell and wander into the realm of ridiculous). … Besides, you can see the curvature of the “moon” when DK punches it too. Honestly there is enough information to get actual numbers crunched but I don’t feel like doing it. DK is 6’1″ while hunched on his knuckles according to a size chart and a life sized statue of Mario (to establish Mario’s height then extrapolated into the chart, which also puts DK at a oversized, overweight gorilla by said extrapolation). From there get the angle of the curve of the moon with reference to DK punching it; this gives you the size of the moon. Then go back to the scene where the moon is on the island and you’ve go the size of the island (which almost certainly is going to be small).

    “as for diddy kong iirc wasn’t his jetpack what gave him said force, that said both diddy and kongare related so should have comparable durability.”

    I don’t think you appreciate how much energy is required to break a stable orbit.

    “idk that evil tiki idol he hit in the head with it sent it back before passing out?”

    After that. The Moon jumps back in the sky, then starts to fall back downward again, but then it just suddenly stops in midair. … Why? It shouldn’t do that. Physics doesn’t work that way.

    “on a side note little macs gloved fists hurt a being who can survive reentry from space.”

    Who? Cause it certainly wasn’t DK.

  16. Rhododendron October 19, 2014 at 5:34 pm -      #16

    @OriginalA
    I’m sorry, but you seem to think i said the moon in dk was our moons size. i merely pointed out it is not small by any means(from the look of it around plutos moons size) and that 1 universe =/= another (like our earth doesn’t have a mushroom kindom,dk island ect)
    ——
    “I don’t think you appreciate how much energy is required to break a stable orbit.”
    —–
    ^i don’t think anyone here even stated what it would take to do so…
    ——
    ” Why? It shouldn’t do that. Physics doesn’t work that way.”
    —-
    ^ uh, what is toonforce?
    ——
    “Who? Cause it certainly wasn’t DK.”
    ——
    ^ www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc0OyYPXics
    clearly seen falling from space after punching the moon @5:06 and on. saved from the impact by his bud diddy tho.

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