For this match, let’s keep it to a fight against the other. I think we’d all agree that the Death Star has more usage since it can fire essentially an unlimited amount of times whereas the Halo is a one-and-done weapon.
So, for this scenario the Death Star is well within firing range of the Halo…
Which side would you want to be on?
um,if its in firing range then i think halo is done for.
Hhhmmm
If its a matchup straight against one another, I think we dont have all the info. As far as we know, the Halos extinguish all life on the galaxy. Thats it. Thats all we got.
That does not mean it destroys said life with something that also affects matter. Meaning that whatever is “shoots” may not do anything to the Death Star. Whereas we know that one direct hit from the star and the pretty ring goes bye bye.
I say inconclusive. Otherwise, Death Star for sure.
the only thing i need to know is does the death star need to be ran on living things? cuz if A.I. can make it then hell the halo is gone.
Does Halo have an exhaust port about 2 meters wide (roughly the size of a womp rat back on Tatooine)?? Does the Death Star have various types of eco systems? Decor? The Death Star is about as ugly it was useful. Too bad the second Death Star was destroyed before it was finished; maybe it had all that the first Death Star was lacking…
Halo wins.. not even close
Also; considering the Death Star’s computer core allow it to operate without a crew means that the only “weapon” the Halo(s) have is practically useless.
If the Death Star is computer controlled, then the Halo’s main weapon won’t have a effect on it. It will probably just wipe out every sentient life in the galaxy. Then the Death Star will fire on the Halo and destroy it.
Or the crew could launch anyone of its unmanned Fleets and destroy the Ring whilst sitting pretty several Galaxies away.
Unless used correctly upon the exact ooponent, then the Rings represent nothing more than a big pile of useless Onyx.
“Does Halo have an exhaust port about 2 meters wide?”
Nope, it just has a very unstable core, a large exposed surface area and no self-defence network to speak of, making it incredibly vulnerable for a construct of its size.
“Does the Death Star have various types of eco systems? Decor?”
Grass and paint, which would protect the Halo from Turbo-blaster rounds how?
One of the Ig88 droids replaced the second deathstar’s main computer and had it not underestimated the rebel ships would have overrun the Sw universe after disposing of the biological crew (tales of the bounty hunters) so yes that death star could still destroy a Halo without a living crew however that is not the deathstar shown at the top and i belive it would need a crew to operate the computer now if that can be a droid crew then it would not matter if all life in the universe is destroyed so unless anyone can say that the Rings wipe out planets and or ships I think the deathstar would win. Ps enjoy the run on sentance
Seriously… you guys never ever read the scenario…
“Ps enjoy the run on sentance”
Ugh. It hurts us.
well the fact that the scenario says the death star is in rane,and i dont think it takes more than a minute to fire…
Sorry if I offend anyone lol. It was just a remark at someone (not gonna say who) who always mentions something that differs from the given scenario.
The fact that Halo was created merely to starve the Flood, not destroying anything else other than sentient life, puts it at a impossible disadvantage when facing a Superweapon created to destroy planets.
If the Death Star is being computer controlled at this point, then the Halo has no chance of winning this match. Unless the shockwave somehow contains EMP? I don’t know about this one.
Ah, TL. Your Frankness and lack of analysis shall always remain a burden to yourself. Try and adopt some tact in future.
1) The Death Star itself is not just a single Particle Superlaser weapon platform, it also uses a myriad of other particle propulsion devices not limited by immediate range combat. The myriad of heavier Turbolasers could achieve ranges far greater than the firing sequnce of the Halo itself, whilst Hyper-Drive ordinance assures that it never even has to be in the same sector of the Galaxy as the Halo.
2) It is a mobile Space STATION, whose primary purpose is to act as a Carrier in large Naval and Marine operations. It is designed to first and foremost deliver craft before itself (Which was the fatal flaw the crew adopted in ‘A New Hope’) and could hold a payload of Imperial Cruisers and a large number of ships within it’s own drydock; designed expressly for Naval engagements.
Think of it as a large Aircraft Carrier and mobile Drydock that just so happens to have an extrmely potent cannon equipped. In all due respect, I believe I’ve actually sustained within the confines of the scenario presented, it just so happens that everyone else has a very limited perception of what range actually means.
which sounds cooler? thats my case
I don’t really know the range of the Death Star, so pardon me.
As for the firing range of one single Halo, it has an effective radius of 25,000 light-years. How far can the Death Star fire? And the problem is, can the Death Star’s Turbolasers render Halo Ineffective?
And pardon me, but you did not sustained within the scenario. It’s Death Star vs Halo, not Death Star and Fleet vs Halo. This is a match to determine the better super weapons, not the docking capacities of the Death Star or Halo (which didn’t had any). And Halo’s weapons would probably wipe out every living crew in their fleet anyway.
Correct me if I’m wrong about anything.
due the DS could destroy a planet, what makes you think halo possibly even destroy the DS. Halo is nothing but a fat wedding ring with an atmoshpere
lol a fat wedding ring
Yeah, I think we should limit this match to the weapons each possesses, and the power they could bring on a galactic scale and against each other.
Halo wins when it comes to mass destruction of sentient life.
However, Death Star wins when it comes to using their weapons against each other.
I think.
@TL
If we are looking at it the way you suggest, then I agree with you.
Although by that logic, an Aircraft Carrier only has a range of 100 metres. Which as we all know is not the case.
Death star would just blow a hole in halo it’s not a planet so the energy wouldn’t be able to build up in a chain reaction. The Halo would most likely go off before it tears itself apart killing everybody in the galaxy. But the forerunners who activated it would most likely escape to shield worlds and those dreadnaughts are real tough and blow the death star as they leave leaving bot destroyed but forerunners winning.
Also another way are the setinels. their beams would cut through that base like nothing…
And by that logic, the Halo would be a ICBM.
I’m going to presume this was towards me. If not, then I apologise.
“And by that logic, the Halo would be a ICBM.”
Not really, since it fires a pulse of unknown quantification, not a missile. Is capable of launching a payload over multiple sectors of the Galaxy, not just single continents. And uses the same pulse to neutralise specific targets, therefore not a ballistic of any kind.
The Death Star is a multi-purpose Station, serving as a waypoint station, a Battle-Cruiser, Star ship deployment platform, Marine, Frigate and Fighter insertion device, construction yard, a Garrison, a Fortress, mobile Artillery, a Carrier, an Inter-Galactic bombardment vessel, dry-dock, R&D facility, Stormtrooper training and Cloning plant and a weapons, power, vessel provision factory.
It pretty much serves every function from training Stormtroopers and pilots, constructing Droids and providing power to and restoring Planetary shields.
It also just happens to having a big cannon positioned on the front.
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Now as far as I’m aware this is a Death Star Vs Halo matchup, which denoted the entirety of the construct itself, facilities, personnel and all. This in the case of the Halo would dictate all of its primary functions, including the Sentinel facilities.
My point being is that each proponent is not limited to just having a big gun that goes boom boom, it dictates that each construct use whatever resources available to win this fight. Now the Death Star is not limited to the Darksaber, it can also fire Hyper drive rounds capable of firing from outside the radius of the Halo, or using the interplanetary Ion Cannon to simply deactivate the Halo at long range.
concidering that the DS has a bunch of turrets and a super laser
Death Star’s main weapon, the Superlaser has a working range of 420,000 km.
Interplanetary Ion Cannon’s range is sufficient to target planets at interstellar ranges, but it’s maximum range is not explicitly stated.
Hyperdrive: aren’t those the engines used to enter hyperspace? The only weapon that comes close to the description is the Galaxy Gun, but it was not built on the Death Star, but rather a separate superweapon commisioned by Palpatine after he was reborn.
the death star fires on demand it takes a good 30 min.??? to fire the halo?
nuff said
i think halo cud do far more damge then the ds but not ne to the ds
This conversation is out of date. It’s not Halo vs. Death Star. It’s the Ark vs. Death Star. The Ark makes Halos. The Ark has an self-sustaining and replicating ecosystem of sentient, space-faring non-biological sentinels that assist in construction and defense. The Ark is 100,000 km diameter vs. the Death Star @ 160 km. The Ark wouldn’t even have to fire a weapon. The sentinels could dismantle the Death Star regardless of turbolasers, giant death ray or fleets.
The Ark wins – halo.wikia.com/wiki/Installation_00
Is this to decide which would destroy the other? If it is then I would say death star, Why?
Halo kills sentient species. as far As I know It is never specified whether it can destroy any thing else.
If it kills all life then death star wouldn’t have a crew to fire it wouldn’t it?
Well, If the death star is automated than that is no problem. It can fire sooner than halo because on a halo you would have to scurry over to the library, grab the index, and bring it back and then start the long firing process.
Death star is built to destroy, not just kill
Death star wins in my book.
if its in range the deth sar will win even if it gets destroyed the emporor can build another one
so what if he builds another 1 he still lost
there are more than one halo ring there are 5-7 i think if all of them are activated death star is screwed it cant hit all halos at once it cant be at two places at once
BUT if we are only talking abt one halo ring then as halo is firing (wich takes a while) destroy it
“Death star would just blow a hole in halo it’s not a planet so the energy wouldn’t be able to build up in a chain reaction”
As we all know The Death Star can blow up planets. If you watch A New Hope then you see it dows not cause a chain reaction. That would be like frieza and his *Sarcasm Activate!* five minutes for the planet namek to blow up. When the Death Star shot Alderaan it went *Boom=Dead in about a second. As an explosion as small as the Pillar of Autumn blew up the ring im certain a shot from the death star would be more devastating. Logically speaking humanity would not build ships with the self destructive force to blow up an entire planet or they would use suicide bombing ships piloted by AI to nuke the covenant to hell.
So one scale of super weapons it should be known that DBZ Cast>Death Star> Halo Ring.
halo was not to be use that way it was to be use only 1 time
Well, the Death Star can only destroy one planet at a time, taking a few minutes to fire a blast.
Halo can wipe out all life in a galaxy, but takes long to fire.
The Death Star would obviously destroy Halo before it fires.
The Death Star wins.
this is a matter of who fires first so deathstar wins
This is one hell of a one sided fight Death Star hands down.
I give this to the DS. To L-W: Cite me a canon source with Hyper drive rounds being used by the DS and an interplanetary Ion cannon. L-W, this is not how you debate, I don’t expect people to take me at my word all the time which is why I quote from my source or give a link to it whenever possible. And so what if you could attack from beyond the range of ONE Halo? One ring goes off the rest to, bye bye DS crew. But even so, DS takes this hands down. I hope you see my point here on citing sources.
Hey, wait! Phrasing implies that while DS is within 3 radii of galaxy, Halo is not orbiting the next planet hosting the DS. In other words, we have a dead “Death Star” being run by computers that would probably take a hell of a time getting to Halo.
“we have a dead “Death Star” being run by computers that would probably take a hell of a time getting to Halo.”
the death is said to be well within firing range, it doesnt need to get there, it is there.
The death star has a quicker firing time compared, to the halo so even if the both fired at the same time, the death star would destroy halo before it got its shot off.
I can see a scenario where the Death Star fires its WTFPWN Super lazer and i flies directly through the ring. It would porobably turn into another lazer chargin pun
death star wins 1 superlaser and the halo ring is dead!
if halo destroys all life in the galaxy who would be around to tell anyone that i’m just saying what if halo is a dud what if it just generates electricity or something like that
any way dosent halo have like a realy slow charging time wouldnt the deeath star just blowitup before it can charge at all that saying it is realy a weapon
its an intersting idea, but the situtation is comparing a cannon to a pistol at point blank range, pistol wins. the halo’s are not tactical wapons, and were never designed to be used in this way, in fact they were suppose to remain hidden from the flood. the deathstar however has much more firepower and would win in this situtation, but in terms of overall killing power halo is exponentally more lethal.
I do believe…all Halo’s orbit a gas giant due to gravitational issues….how would the DS’s laser react to the immense graviatational pull of the planet? Knowing that it doesn’t really fire a laser, simply because LASERS are just light amplification through stimulated emission of radiation. It has to be a super plasma of sort…which can be affected by high amounts of gravity. Other than that…The Halo’s have no means of destroying another ship. It kills life, not ships. Since we are not including the Sentinels for the Halo’s and the Fleets for the DS…I have no choice but to give it to the DS. Sorry Halo….Its not biological.
As the saying goes, right weapon for the right time is crucial in all situations.
Off topic…but could someone recommend a battle between the Galactic Empire (as seen in the movies) vs The Flood? I don’t know how to do it myself, unfortunately^^”
Given that the Death Star was ready to fire at Yavin 4, which is a moon of a gas giant I don’t gravity will be an issue here. The beam is not made out of plasma, but a sort of “exotic matter”.
Gravity has never been shown to be a problem for any Laser
i agree with jay, what if the halo somehow moves to where the laser goes trough the center? heres how i see it:
DS AI: firing in 3, 2, 1…..
*laser fires, passing through the center of ahlo, missing completely*
DS AI: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
or what if halo caught the laser somehow and turned it back? 0.o
I would pay to see that happen.
“I do believe…all Halo’s orbit a gas giant due to gravitational issues”
We see the Halo’s fire right after going out of Slipspace, NOT around gas giants (Three of them are around Covenant home planets(They are still just in tribal/stone age)), the Halo’s don’t need to be around Gas Giants(Was 05 even around one?).
“Was 05 even around one?”
It was, a gas giant called Substance.
The forerunners built halo and they were an more advance race that the empire and we know that halo can be destroyed by a big explosion on the surface. i feel that since the flood had control of many of the forerunners ships they would have antisapated that someone would try to distroy halo from the outside so they would have some form of defense against a “lazar”
further more as seen in starwars episode 4 multipule technitians had to pull levers to fire, i understand that IG88 but you would think the empire would have made it so that you had to have a human presence there ot fire it
finnally even if the halo was distroyed the ark would build another one and send it back there probilly with an ability to counter (if it didnt have one allready) the DS “Lazer”
Compared to finding a tiny index and having to manually insert it and then wait for possibly a couple of minutes as the halo was only de activated after the arbiter had killled Tartarus and the brutes. The rings have never shown any defences other than the sentinels whcih seems to be another thing over looked by the FR. The ark is outside help in this debate. So all in all it seems the death star has the advantage
There is also the irrifutable fact that one of the Halo stations was completely destroyed by an explosion that is several orders of magnitude less than the Death Star’s super laser. If a Halo, which is already known in the canon to not being able to stand up against a small explosion, were to try to stand up against to a planet busting laser it would explode even faster than compared to when it exploded from the small reactor of a starship.
Now we are assuming the death star can be automated but it is not known also the scenarion states the DS is in range of a Halo but it is not said the halo is in range of the DS.
Necrobump
“Now we are assuming the death star can be automated but it is not known’
……………….So your saying the Death Star need Humans to run? (or some other Life form?)…………………………Prove it
“also the scenarion states the DS is in range of a Halo but it is not said the halo is in range of the DS.”
that does’nt make any sense
Halo has range of 25,000LY……………………..I’m reasonably sure that the Death Star Super Laz0r doesn’t have that kind of Range……..(lol………..range in space)
Only one single deciding factor in this match: Which one fires first.
IF the Deathstar fires first Halo likely won’t survive. If Halo gets off the first shot then the entire crew (and I doubt it’d be automated) of the Deathstar would be gone.
If I recall Halo had a longer charge time than Deathstar…? I could be wrong since I never personally timed that one.
“IG-88 took control of the Death Star’s superlaser, playing along and firing when the Death Star gunners sent their signals” -pg71 Tales of the Bounty Hunters
It can be automated.
The DS may be able to avoid the Halo’s pulse by jumping to hyperspace.
I think that this converstation is kinda moot. Ok so lets say that Halo fires first, but the death star is automated so the crew dies but the death star fires and blows up halo. Then Halo would be destroyed and the death star automated as it is would still just float around in space as their would be no one to give it commands as everyone in the universe would be dead. So in the end it’s really all just a stalemate.
“I think that this converstation is kinda moot. Ok so lets say that Halo fires first, but the death star is automated so the crew dies but the death star fires and blows up halo. Then Halo would be destroyed and the death star automated as it is would still just float around in space as their would be no one to give it commands as everyone in the universe would be dead. So in the end it’s really all just a stalemate.”
if the death star blows up the Halo then the Death star Wins………….
I would also like to point out that if the Halo fired then everything with sufficiant x in a 25,000LY y will be dead…….not the Universe
If the deathstar can be operated by machines then it wins. If not, I’ll give it to the halo.
Has anyone thought that DS can just jump to hyperspace where halo pusle can’t affect it.
“Has anyone thought that DS can just jump to hyperspace where halo pusle can’t affect it.”
NO U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
We do not know if halo is effective on the Death star’s sheilds and what matierial-if there is one, that could protect life from halo’s blast. If the death star is vunerable to halo then the crew could be killed before even firing on halo. But if the death star is to fire first, then the laser on it may be able to penatrate the high-tech meatal the fourrunneres use thus breaking the ring and throwing it of balance, Destabalizing the reactor and cuasing halo to explode. It mostly depends on who fires first.
actually, Halo can also destroy structures, if you’ve read the forerunner series, Halo has actually been known to destroy precursor structures, and don’t underestimate sentinels, (ghosts of onyx) and also, is MC on Halo? cause once MC boards the Death star…
and also, keep in mind that there are seven halos not one (that’s why it’s called the Halo Array), if one Halo fires, then all seven fire, so at most, DS will destroy one Halo, but then get owned by the rest.
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*facepalm*
“, is MC on Halo? cause once MC boards the Death star…”
He gets brutally destroyed by a squad of Stormtroopers or by Vader, who doesn’t even need the Chief in his line of sight to strangle the life out of him?
“and also, keep in mind that there are seven halos not one (that’s why it’s called the Halo Array), if one Halo fires, then all seven fire, so at most, DS will destroy one Halo, but then get owned by the rest.”
This “Death Star vs Halo” not “Death Star vs Halos”. Only one installation is present.
Well if the halo locks the section of the halo that’s about to be hit in time and then goes to the death star and activates the hard light spokes, the death star could likely be crushed by the spokes and hub.
“He gets brutally destroyed by a squad of Stormtroopers…”. Are you forgetting that many people make fun of Stormtroopers as notoriously lousy shots? And also, are Stormtroopers genetically augmented for superhuman speed, strength, and mental prowess?
Holy necropost, Batman!
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” Are you forgetting that many people make fun of Stormtroopers as notoriously lousy shots?”
You mean those times when they were specifically ordered not to kill the Rebels, such as on the Death Star I and Cloud City?
Yes, missing on purpose tends to give the illusion of being a bad shot. Let’s not forget that Obi-Wan specifically says things like “only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise”, and we see that when they’re not ordered otherwise, they’e actually quite good shots (such as on Endor and, while we never see it, we can infer that they’re quite good on Hoth, considering they storm the base in minutes).
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“And also, are Stormtroopers genetically augmented for superhuman speed, strength, and mental prowess?”
Why do they have to be? A squad of them laying down automatic fire is more than enough to reduce Chief to a blackened, charred corpse.
And I noticed you totally ignored Vader in your response.
Wow two halo fantards in two days
I only wanted to know. Thanks for the correction. But YOU forgot Cheif has shields… albeit weak ones.
I meant CHIEF!!! I hate it when I get spelling wrong.
What exactly will the chief do if Vader decides to choke a bitch. Also you are a necromancer on the level of Sauron.
I have no idea what the heck a “necromancer” or a “Sauron” is, so your insults do no harm me. Besides, why didn’t Vader or the Emperor kill any of the intruders on the Death Star by choking them? Do they have to have a direct line of sight? I’m not being a jerk, I actually want to know.
A better debate might be X50 vs The death star?
@MasterchiefQr
That would be whoever shots first wins.
Although the X50 is more similar to an super sized World Devastator than to a Death Star.
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As for the debate, the Halo is a far superior superweapon, it has a far greater range than the Death Star and lets you kill far more planets. But if the Death Star has the Halo in range, then it can destroy it.
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Although the scenario is that the Death Star is within firing range of the Halo, not vice versa, so I guess Halo wins as it kills the Death Star’s crew shooting half galaxy away.
Halo can freeze in time and does have defenses though…
The fractal dimensional bubble defense takes to much energy so it is only a temporal defense and I’m not sure the Halo can fire while it hides in it.
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As for the defenses, it depends of which generation this Halo belongs. A first generation Halo could in theory defend itself of the Death Star.
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Also the Halos have an unknown defense weapon system with a range of 1 light year.
“Which side would you want to be on?”.
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Well Halo has tropical islands and forests, so its way nicer.
But since its about to be blown all to hell.
I’d go with a nice cold and boring…but safe! Death Star.
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Now for the true debate!…….Death Star vs Death Egg!.