I’ll be honest – I don’t know much about either one, but based on looks alone, I think this one goes to the Imperial Guard Sentinel.
The AT-PT looks like they added a gun on at the end after realizing that they *might* encounter some resistance along the way.
So, how does this match go?
First we have to verify what variant of Sentinel it is, since there are six different kinds.
@L-W – To make it easy, let’s say the match could include any version of each- does that help?!
how big is the AT-PT??
the atpt is only big enough to fit one person.
These two vehicles are roughly the same size and design. Both are meant to provide mobility in rought terrain as well as provide a means to deliver heavy weponry into a battle.
Here are a couple links to consider:
AT-PT = starwars.wikia.com/wiki/All_Terrain_Personal_Transport
Sentinnel = warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Sentinel
For the sake of this argument, I think we can match these two up with Sentinel Mars Pattern. This configuration gives both vehicle similar weaponry and purpose in combat dealing with both infantry and light armored vehicles.
In this respect I beleive the AT-PT to be more maneuverable than the Mars pattern, giving it a slight edge over the Sentinel. In that case, I think the AT-PT would win.
However, the scale would be tipped greatly against the SW vehicle should it face any other Sentinel configuration.
“I believe the AT-PT to be more maneuverable”
Wow…..havent you ever played a dawn of war game.
Sentiniels can actually rotate thier heads a little over 180 degrees both sides.
And with the lascannon bringing it to be far more deadly then a small laser.
In the design of the sentineil it would be much more agile and faster then a AT-PT
Believe me, The AT’s need to walk in a semi-circle to go the other way at around 15km/ph
The Sentineil is Much more faster at turning around then that. As you can see in the design the Shock Absorbers are there for a very predictable purpose….SPEED! As well as pumping out more Power because of the Exhaust Is large for a reason.
I have Played Some star wars games, and it looking grim for the AT-PT They take ages to turn and dont really go that fast that is just giving the victory to the sentineil.
And L-W this is The only one from Winter Assualt so it can only carry one weapon[Lascannon]
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@Space marine
Throughout the legion of new posts you have graciously provided us today, you have managed to make a general fool out of yourself IMO. Your logic in the grand majority of those posts, as well as the logic presented here, is comparable to a brain-power of a gnat.
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@ Guy with the silly name
Im 13.
What are you trying to prove with that.
I think, you are just looking at a dictionary to find “Big words” to try and make you appear smarter then you actually are.
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You can only witness a Person’s Intelligence Through meeting them.
The reason I post like I have done in past references Is because I dont have much time on my hands.
Yes, I can make a fool out of myself, But, I only do it to make life a bit less serious.
I have a humour. Unlike some people who can’t take a joke.
You on the other hand actually do.
P.S Im in Grade 8 I never got kept down.
Forgot to post in the other one.
So dont go insulting people’s Intelligence On the “interweb :)” internet if you actually have not met them.
sentinel lascannons are made to hunt armored vehiles like tanks and walkers the at-pt could easily be out manuvered and its out gunned so 40k owns star wars
Meh, the Mars-pattern (and most basic Sentinel) is open-topped and has a multi-laser and is more of an anti-infantry platform than an anti-armor weapon.
The AT-PT would have little issue killing a Mars-pattern but Sentinels with lascannons or meltas would have no problem killing an AT-PT.
But for the most part I give it to the AT-PT, mainly because the open top on most sentinels is a huge weakness.
this post is describing the closed top sentinels so
40k ftw
with the new imperial guard codex, there are more ways to blow sh*t up with the sentinel than ever before
any one of its new weapons wins against… WTF IS THAT THING?! an AT-PT?
never heard of it, i’ll assume that the sentinel can beat it.
“But for the most part I give it to the AT-PT, mainly because the open top on most sentinels is a huge weakness.”
I thought that the AT-PT uses a laser? In that case, just how is an open topped vehicle at such a disadvantage? It has protection to the sides and shots from above are unlikely. And a combat fitted Sentinel has no such issues.
Anyway, I say that in a battle of standard configurations, the AT-PT wins. Give the Sentinel one of it’s anti-armor weapons and it quickly goes the other way.
I may be mistaken, but I assumed that Sentinels always carried weapons that would deal damage to light-armored (weakest arsenal) vehicles…and seeing the AT-PT, it seems like a light-armored walker.
They have multi-lasers. They’re good against infantry and okay against vehicles, but not optimal. A Lascannon or Meltagun is better for anti vehicular work.
Durasteel 300000 times stronger thn steel how wld 40k weapons do against tht
The sentinel is a single seat vehicle which is built for manuverability and speed. The AT-PT is an armoured transport that has two pilots. Adding another pilot would increase the overall mass of the vehicle and thus reduce its speed, am I wrong? Not only that but the AT-PT also has a 1 man trooper compartment, the point of a single man transport rings silly for me but hey, which would add more mass and bulkyness.
Looking at the legs of the two walkers. Correct me if I’m wrong but the placing of the legs seem to imply that it can mainly walk forward, turning would seem to take time. On the other hand the sentinels legs are less restricted by the crew compartment thus allwoing more manuverability.
Moving on to weapon configurations, the other two points are more or less the same overall.. The picture of the sentinel is a, I’m guessing, armageddon pattern according to lexicanum and Matapiojos link. This means it is armed with a lascannon, and that the pilot compartment is fuly enclosed. The weapons on the Empire walker is two blast cannons but not specified if they’re light heavy or medium. Of these two weapons I do think the lascannon is the one packing more anti vehicle punch and combining that with the speed and manuverability points I think the sentinel would win this battle.
Now if we take other sentinel patterns the main thing that change is the armaments from heavy flamers to missile pods. Granted a heavy flamer would do very little, I’m guessing, to the AT-PT the next on the list, autocannons, could probably eventually take the battle. Missiles and meltas we dont even need to consider.
Overall the sentinel wins this due to better manuverability, speed, function and firepower. Sentinel for BankGambling award.
Oh and: I recon a AT-ST would be closer to the Sentinel in the manuverability, speed and function department.
LAZCANNON MAKES THE DIFFERENCE
ATPT has short advantage for a battle in urban terrain but if the battle takes on the open field then fire power, maneuverability and speed are the important factors in battle……
@ Paladino
And if they are fighting in mountainous terrain?
Or a beachfront?
Who has the advantage?
And where is the battle taking place?
@man
And if they are fighting in mountainous terrain?
on Mountainous terrain every personal and scout type walker transport need to be very balanced for the rough terrain will make them fell off, from the pict above I saw at pt legs are reverse jointed which can be problem on the mountainous( I think)
,the sentinel foot part were wider(more balanced)
Beachfront?
means open field so the 3 factors(fire power, maneuverability and speed) are comes to play
Who has the advantage?
both have their advantage and disadvantage, but I don’t know much for now…. what I already know is At Pt maybe shorter(3 meter height) and lil more maneuverable and Sentinel were lil bit taller (4 meter i think), has longer leg(add lil speed), some of the version can pack more fire power
And where is the battle taking place?
the scenario mention that both combatant are fight against each other, so the battle can take place everywhere which means all kind terrain can be the place of the fight
oh yeah their armor type also important(although it’s not deciding factor in battle)
cool aircraft from 40k
wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Thunderbolt
wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lightning_Strike
wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lightning
wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Marauder_Bomber
wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Marauder_Destroyer
wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Valkyrie
@Kartha:
“Oh and: I recon a AT-ST would be closer to the Sentinel in the manuverability, speed and function department.”
AT ST is bigger than any sentinels (about 7-8 metres tall) while Sentinel are lil bit taller(4-4,5 metres tall) compared to AT PT(about 3 metres)
so the closer fight for Sentinel is AT PT
so AT PT is
Isn’t the Sentinel vulnerable to small-arms fire? As far as I am aware, the AT-PT is more heavily armored. However, considering the caliber of of the weapons, I don’t know if that matters a whole lot, as they’d be able to hammer each other anyway. But it will be significant to some degree…
I don’t know how much power the Sentinel’s laser packs, nor what the range on it is. Star Wars’ walker does have a respectable range though, and the lasers are typically misleading. They’re more powerful than they look; or perhaps we simply shouldn’t judge by the barrels.
Though I think it is a slightly different model, you should remember how the 2-manned Star Wars walker, when hijacked by Chewy during the battle on the forest moon of Endor, was able to destroy one of its’ own models in seconds.
So considering that and the armor, the sentinel doesn’t stand a chance UNLESS it has stronger weapons. So I’ll leave it to someone else to provide evidence for the latter.
AT-ST easily destroyed by 2 log tree
so what about AT-PT which is smaller
for the armor factor SW sides lose
While at first the two seem very evenly matched to me.. can’t the Sentinel rotate it’s torso? Should provide the clear advantage to the Sentinel. The AT-PT does carry one trooper, sure, so the armor should be discussed for the Sentinel, since the AT-PT now has the equivalent of a fighter craft in that it can deploy a trooper with a heavy weapon. So to finally solve this fight we need to determine…
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A. Sentinel armor feats
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B. What heavy weaponry is available to the average Storm Trooper, and if it will be of any use against the Sentinel.
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C. Level of tactical and strategic competence AT-PT crew often have shown vs the same for a Sentinel.
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C is important because even if the Storm Trooper can bring down the Sentinel, it may not be of much use if they can’t coordinate with the AT-PT pilot in order to bring the Sentinel, who is clearly faster than the Storm Trooper, in to a trap. There’s simply no way the two can go toe to toe and have the AT-PT win with lack of torso twist.
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Let’s see if my grave digging will come to fruit!