Keeley Hazell & Kate Upton Vs Kelly Brook & Brittney Alger

Keeley Hazell & Kate Upton Vs Kelly Brook & Brittney Alger

Suggested by sadot06

The fight will be a pudding wrestling match.

A loss is achieved by tap out, loss of consciousness, or complete loss of clothing.

The winning team gets a date with the Admin.

*Admin’s Note: While I can certainly see where many people would find these women attractive, I have to pass on the date. My wife is the only woman I’ll ever need. She was beside me for my surgery, and has been at my side for over 14 years. Think any of these four women would do that? Hell no. So the winning team will get sent to a special room at the Admin’s house. They’re invited to the house as guests and should be treated accordingly.

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188 Comments on "Keeley Hazell & Kate Upton Vs Kelly Brook & Brittney Alger"

  1. Rookie September 5, 2014 at 6:58 am -      #1

    No idea who will win, but Admin you are a lucky on… read note… well it’s your choice and I respect it.

  2. sadot06 September 5, 2014 at 7:04 am -      #2

    You’re a good man admin. Glad you’re back

  3. Sauroposeidon September 5, 2014 at 8:23 am -      #3

    This is not what I come to BankGambling for.

    I demand a rewrite of this match.

    Give them rocket launchers, or put them in a zombie gauntlet. Last woman standing gets a FPA.

    Also, good on ya, Admin.

  4. Commander Cross September 5, 2014 at 8:35 am -      #4

    This kind of match is still original, if nothing else it has that much in its favor.
    ____

    There’s always Capture The Flag, Y’all. 😉

  5. Rookie September 5, 2014 at 8:37 am -      #5

    @Sauroposeidon

    “Give them rocket launchers, or put them in a zombie gauntlet.”

    And tanks. And zombie tanks. Everything better with them.

  6. Kara Zor-El September 5, 2014 at 8:54 am -      #6

    Well this is a massive pile of sexist bullshit…
    _
    “or complete loss of clothing”
    _
    Seriously, GTFO.
    _
    “So the winning team will get sent to a special room at the Admin’s house for everyone else to do whatever comes to mind.”
    _
    And you can fuck the hell, right off with this fucking misogynist bullshit right now. Making them sex slaves is so fucking low Admin. I’ll politely ask that you change this, and I’d suggest taking down the match, but I doubt that’ll happen. I mean the original thing was a date, which is harmless enough I suppose… but for you to suggest… change it, please.

  7. admin September 5, 2014 at 9:16 am -      #7

    @Kara Zor-El – I never said anything about sex slaves. That line was purposely left open for each individual to make up their mind of what they thought would transpire. If you read “The Admin’s House” thread, you will see there are various activities that take place, and it’s up to the participants to determine what happens.

    Just like every thing else on this site…

  8. Kara Zor-El September 5, 2014 at 9:38 am -      #8

    “for everyone else to do whatever comes to mind.” – “That line was purposely left open for each individual to make up their mind of what they thought would transpire.”
    _
    Would suggest it’s up to the FPers to decide what happens, and we both know what kinds of things they’d think of to do. But okay, whatever, it’s your site.

  9. sadot06 September 5, 2014 at 9:39 am -      #9

    Zombies and rocket launches it is!


    They’re in Madison square garden inside of a wrestling ring. Walking Dead Zombies are pouring in. Weapons spawn ever 10 seconds. They’ve got rocket launchers, handguns, knives, swords, shotguns, rifles, the works. First to make it outside wins a green lantern ring.

    Also Zora, this was clearly a joke. I didn’t even expect it to be posted. Also, lol @ the irony of you ranting about sexism when your Avatar and name are based off of Super Tits. At least pick an empowering heroine. They exist you know. Until then, take the persecution complex elsewhere.

  10. Kara Zor-El September 5, 2014 at 9:53 am -      #10

    @Sadot
    _
    You’re thinking of Power Girl, I have Super Girl as my avatar, who is currently a Red Lantern not giving any fucks, so how’s about you do a little reading first?

  11. sadot06 September 5, 2014 at 10:02 am -      #11

    I was thinking of and meant Super Girl:
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/39966/979542-656467_supergirl__flamebird__picture_4_super.jpg


    Really empowering. How bout you be less judgmental and immature in the future, so you don’t sound as much like an idiot.

  12. admin September 5, 2014 at 10:06 am -      #12

    “we both know what kinds of things they’d think of to do” – BankGambling has always been an open setting with very little rules. The main thing is to show respect to the other readers of the site. To pretend that activities like sex, drug use and *gasp* intellectual conversation might happen is all at the whim of the reader. I purposely left things open so that the reader is the one who decides what happens. I can’t help it if you think that sex was the only option – that’s not my way of thinking, but if that’s what pops into your mind when reading this, then there is nothing I can say or do that will change those thoughts from entering your mind.

    One of the best gifts we are given as humans is the ability to think and act on our own. We might be influenced by society, but in the end, we are all responsible for our own actions.

  13. OberHerr September 5, 2014 at 10:21 am -      #13

    Kara, why do you never complain that we send characters to supposed death matches constantly? In fact, we force entire universes into war constantly.

  14. Cassie Hack September 5, 2014 at 10:22 am -      #14

    I don’t know who any of these people are. that said joke match or not eh, not really digging this match either.

  15. Nomad September 5, 2014 at 10:37 am -      #15

    Kate Upton is a model an actress. Not too sure on the others, I guess models.

  16. Kara Zor-El September 5, 2014 at 10:39 am -      #16

    @Sadot
    _
    *golf clap* Way to cherry pick there. She was getting a tattoo, her arms squashed against her chest, making her boobs look bigger, She has one of the smallest bra sizes in DC.
    fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/172/a/9/kara_zor_el_by_taziobettin-d68f6u0.jpg
    _
    Though WW has large breasts and is considered an empowering heroine, so I’m not sure what you’re exactly trying to get across. Are you saying women with big breasts can’t be empowering? Because wow! You sound like the idiot here, not me.
    _
    For the record I’m calling it as I see it. Am I not allowed to? Would you prefer women not to voice there opinion now? That seems pretty immature to me.
    _
    @admin
    Just look at the internet as a whole, stop trying to turn it around on me. I have plenty of evidence which would state the first thing people will see when confronted with “for everyone else to do whatever comes to mind.” is more than likely sexual. That’s not my fault or yours, it’s the state of affairs in the current times. But that’s a debate for another day.
    _
    “Kara, why do you never complain that we send characters to supposed death matches constantly? In fact, we force entire universes into war constantly.”
    _
    Because they’re fictional characters in fictional universes that have no basis here or there. These are actual women, that would be scantily clad, wrestling each other for the amusement of, mainly, guys, and it’s degrading.
    _
    Let me ask you this then, would you suggest a similar match-up with half naked men, wrestling in pudding, and the hopes of clothing loss, and then sent to a room where the users can do whatever they thought of to them? It’d still be wrong, but would you do it? Or is it coz you want to see naked women pudding wrestling? Joke or not, the match is up now and I’m allowed to voice my opinion and concern about it. At least, I would hope.

  17. admin September 5, 2014 at 10:55 am -      #17

    @Kara Zor-El – I purposely chose these images – it was easier to find pictures of these women with hardly any clothing on. So I was efforting to make this a match less sexualized. I’m not turning this on you or anyone else. Instead, it’s a reflection of how our culture views things. Tell me, what contributions to society have any of these 4 women made? Have any of them done anything important to advance mankind? No. They are famous for flaunting themselves – and apparently it’s fine by them. They are all making money based only on their looks. That was the point in my note.

    My wife has been by my side for so many things that weaker women wouldn’t be able to handle, just as I have been by her side for some tough circumstances. I posted this match to demonstrate that what’s important is who the person is, not what they look like. And while this last statement will make me sound like a hypocrite, my wife is better looking then all these women, and any other woman on this Earth. Why? Yes, partially due to her looks, but more importantly, because of the person she is. That’s my point to this match. The suggestion was a date – I would pass every time and instead go out with my wife instead. That is just MY take on the match. Everyone else will have their own opinion on what would happen. That’s the point here. If you want to make it about sex, that’s fine. For me, it’s much deeper than that.

  18. Kara Zor-El September 5, 2014 at 11:04 am -      #18

    @ admin
    Look, it doesn’t matter who they are, or what they do. Choose movie actresses, or businesswomen. Scantily clad pudding wrestling is there for the amusement of certain people, and the degradation of the participants. You’ll notice too, all I asked for was a change of that final statement. Okay, I asked for the match to be taken down too, but acknowledged that would never happen. The point here is that it’s objectification of women, something that happens all too often still in this world. Most guys will just ignore it, or try to silence anyone trying to talk out about it, like seems to be happening here in a way.
    _
    It’s why feminism is still around, and let my preface that by saying, I know what you all most likely think about feminism, the vocal minority. Let me remind you, that judging feminism based on those types of people, is like judging Christianity by the WBC, or Muslims by ISIS.
    _
    Look, all I’m asking now is that you change the wording. They’re invited to the house as guests and should be treated accordingly. Is that so bad?

  19. admin September 5, 2014 at 11:14 am -      #19

    updated.

  20. Sauroposeidon September 5, 2014 at 11:16 am -      #20

    Kara. I’m not sure this qualifies as misogynist. Sexist? Sure. Not that I care that much. Guys like what they like. Getting pissed at them for making a match that appeals to them on that level is as shallow as you think they’re being by liking this match. That and we talk about women killing each other violently all the time. I don’t like the idea that much so I don’t usually partake in those debates but seriously.. getting offended at the idea of sex slaves when brutal, gruesome, flesh rending, limb ripping murder is the main course of the day is reeeeally silly. Especially when you know that most of us would use them not for sex but for something like to take up the cleric role in some mmo because FUCKING A I NEED A GOD DAMN HEALER OVER HERE!

    But I also know I like explosions.

    This match should have rocket launchers.

  21. Sauroposeidon September 5, 2014 at 11:17 am -      #21

    @Admin

    Updated but no Rocket Launchers? ;_;

  22. sadot06 September 5, 2014 at 11:23 am -      #22

    “*golf clap* Way to cherry pick there. She was getting a tattoo, her arms squashed against her chest, making her boobs look bigger, She has one of the smallest bra sizes in DC.
    fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/172/a/9/kara_zor_el_by_taziobettin-d68f6u0.jpg”
    _

    Though WW has large breasts and is considered an empowering heroine, so I’m not sure what you’re exactly trying to get across. Are you saying women with big breasts can’t be empowering? Because wow! You sound like the idiot here, not me.”

    What is empowering about being a sex object when you’re supposed to be in a serious context? We don’t see Batman in thongs on the cover of his comics. There are mountains of literature on sexism in comics. If you’re ignorant of this fact you’re either a moron (likely) or too young to know better (also likely).
    _
    “For the record I’m calling it as I see it. Am I not allowed to? Would you prefer women not to voice there opinion now? That seems pretty immature to me.”

    I’d prefer if women and every other asshole on this planet didn’t get on their soapbox and cast judgement on people without even knowing what they’re talking about and then hide behind the “it’s my opinion” excuse as if Webster defines opinion as a license to be an uniformed jackass.

  23. sadot06 September 5, 2014 at 11:24 am -      #23

    @Sauroposeidon

    Post 9

  24. Kara Zor-El September 5, 2014 at 11:26 am -      #24

    @admin
    Thank you.
    _
    @Sauro
    As I said above, the death and maiming and destruction is of fictional people, in fictional verses, and what if scenario’s involving countries I guess. You can get a kind of detachment with them. This match is something that could very well happen in real life, and in fact does, and that’s where the problem stems. It’s a far bigger problem than one gal on one obscure website to contend with, but again, I’m just voicing my opinions, which I’m allowed to do.
    _
    But look, my piece is said, Admin has been kind enough to change the thing, I’ll leave you all to your… rocket launcher party… which would be a very short match wouldn’t you think, with all contestants exploded?
    _
    “FUCKING A I NEED A GOD DAMN HEALER OVER HERE!”
    _
    As a small addendum, I used to play a Holy Priest in WoW xD I was also a Warrior and a Mage, but my Priest got invited everywhere.

  25. Kara Zor-El September 5, 2014 at 11:32 am -      #25

    “What is empowering about being a sex object when you’re supposed to be in a serious context? We don’t see Batman in thongs on the cover of his comics. There are mountains of literature on sexism in comics. If you’re ignorant of this fact you’re either a moron (likely) or too young to know better (also likely).”
    _
    Well done, sexism exists in the comic industry and everywhere. Does that mean it’s right, and should be accepted? fuck no. Though I love you typical assumptions. They don’t agree with me, ahmagawd, they must be like 12 and sooo stupid. Please. The fact that these women are drawn by men, more often than not, should be a red flag here. But it’s obvious you won’t listen, so I’ll just stop here, and leave, like my above post indicated.
    _
    “I’d prefer if women and every other asshole on this planet didn’t get on their soapbox and cast judgement on people without even knowing what they’re talking about and then hide behind the “it’s my opinion” excuse as if Webster defines opinion as a license to be an uniformed jackass.”
    _
    Hi, welcome to the internet, please take a seat over there. Though I know exactly what I’m talking about, where it’s obvious you do not. And thus, I’m leaving. Enjoy toiling in your self-inflicted misery. “Someone didn’t like my match?” Oh fucking no. Lol. Have fun.

  26. Sauroposeidon September 5, 2014 at 11:41 am -      #26

    I don’t know if I care that much if it’s real people.

    If we had Lucas and Spielberg get in to an archery fight I’m sure I’d care just as little.

    I also find nothing wrong with mud wrestling. But then I find no compelling reason to demonize sexual lust or activities built around it either. Even if it doesn’t appeal to me. For the same reason I can’t condemn violent video games I can’t condemn this.

  27. Sauroposeidon September 5, 2014 at 11:47 am -      #27

    ” And thus, I’m leaving. ”

    You aren’t actually required to respond to him, you realize. You are free to ignore people while continuing to participate in a match’s discussion.

  28. Ragnorke September 5, 2014 at 11:53 am -      #28

    @Kara
    “Let me ask you this then, would you suggest a similar match-up with half naked men, wrestling in pudding, and the hopes of clothing loss, and then sent to a room where the users can do whatever they thought of to them? ”

    To be totally honest, if a match was posted of all of hollywoods most ripped male actors going at it… i think most people here would be totally fine with it.
    Sure we wouldn’t be ecstatic, but most of us would just provide our opinions & who we think would win.
    Although i agree with you on the “sent to a room” part… That was a bit… unnecessary

    ” I’m leaving. Enjoy toiling in your self-inflicted misery. “Someone didn’t like my match?” Oh fucking no. Lol. Have fun.”

    If anything, you seem to be the one “toiling in self-inflicted misery”, not sadot.

  29. Soulerous September 5, 2014 at 11:58 am -      #29

    Would suggest it’s up to the FPers to decide what happens, and we both know what kinds of things they’d think of to do.
    ~
    We don’t. Facts can be spoken for by themselves, not others. I know I absolutely would not think of anything sexual to do.
    ~
    At least pick an empowering heroine.
    ~
    Objectification (due to artistry) in some instances does not render moot the heroic properties of the character in most others.
    ~
    I know what you all most likely think about feminism, the vocal minority.
    ~
    All educated minds approve of gender equality, which is what true feminism seeks on behalf of women. ‘Radical feminists’ do not seek equality, so of course they should not represent feminism, because they literally represent something different.
    ~
    Kara. I’m not sure this qualifies as misogynist.
    ~
    There can be no argument. By definition, it does not.
    ~
    If you’re ignorant of this fact you’re either a moron (likely) or too young to know better (also likely).
    ~
    That’s not based off anything. Specifically, neither the likelihood nor the restriction to two options are based on fact.
    ~
    updated.
    ~
    I approve.
    ~
    One of the best gifts we are given as humans is the ability to think and act on our own. We might be influenced by society, but in the end, we are all responsible for our own actions.
    ~
    Golden truth.

  30. Ellie Williams September 5, 2014 at 12:44 pm -      #30

    There’s nothing wrong with these pics, it’s not as if people came here to fap to them. No need to make a big deal out of it.

  31. Soulerous September 5, 2014 at 12:52 pm -      #31

    The pictures were not being scrutinized.

  32. Nomad September 5, 2014 at 1:01 pm -      #32

    “There’s nothing wrong with these pics, it’s not as if people came here to fap to them.”

    Yeah! Totally! That’d be uh, ridiculous.

  33. OberHerr September 5, 2014 at 2:06 pm -      #33

    @Kara
    So if we had a sceanrio with actually people fighting, like say the US vs. EU matc, thats not ok? i dont like the scaenario much myself honestly, though i am curious in how a fight between people like models woukd end up.

    And who ever suggested your opinions aren’t allowed?

  34. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets September 5, 2014 at 3:25 pm -      #34

    ““Let me ask you this then, would you suggest a similar match-up with half naked men, wrestling in pudding, and the hopes of clothing loss,”

    This is actually a good idea, I like it. How bout Rock vs Chris Hemsworth vs two others. Although, looking at the weight difference between Chris and the Rock seems pretty drastic, and the Rock’s also got more experience… It was the first two people who came to my head, ok?

    As to do I have the hopes of their clothes being torn of in the fight? Meh, they got pretty good bodies, I’ll give em that(hopefully I’ll get the 5’7 version of those *crosses fingers*), but, yea, you’re right. Don’t really has the hopes for that.

  35. Ragnorke September 5, 2014 at 3:29 pm -      #35

    @Ober
    ” though i am curious in how a fight between people like models woukd end up.”

    Judging by their physiques:

    Brittney Alger
    cdnpix.com/show/imgs/caac2cbe3fdd95aa794406dc29d2936a.jpg

    Kelly Brook
    farm9.static.flickr.com/8391/8457631037_70cb3ec3f4.jpg

    Keeley Hazell
    genesismedya.com/upload/resimler/galeri/k7kfndchv894ybvgshcjdvu98y7823dbj%C4%B198vsd.jpg

    Kate Upton
    assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1863802.1405116211!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/65576929.jpg

    Keeley Hazell seems to be in the most athletic shape, and Kate Upton appears to be in the worst athletic shape.
    However, while Keeley Hazell does appear to be more athletic, Brittney Alger & Kelly Brook seem to have an overall “stronger” body.

    Brittney Alger: 157cm, 105 pounds
    Kelly Brook: 168cm, 126 pounds
    Kate Upton: 178cm, 137 pounds
    Keeley Hazell: 168cm, 115 pounds.

    My money’s on Kelly Brook, considering she’s the same height as Keeley, yet has an extra 10 pounds on her.
    Brittney Alger simply isn’t in their weight/height class, and Kate Upton has too much “cushion” compared to the rest.

  36. Ranger Lowk September 5, 2014 at 3:38 pm -      #36

    “To be totally honest, if a match was posted of all of hollywoods most ripped male actors going at it…”

    You fool you’ve released the idea into the open. Now it must be done to balance the scales.

  37. pimpmage September 5, 2014 at 3:38 pm -      #37

    Hey kara, pointing out distinctions of gender is in itself… sexist… Now I don’t know much about you, but the distinctions you bring up only widen the difference between the sexes. If this whole match was gender swapped, I bet you wouldn’ have said a single word here. If gender was truely equal in your mind, you wouldn’t have brought up anything.

  38. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets September 5, 2014 at 3:44 pm -      #38

    “You fool you’ve released the idea into the open.”

    The Rock vs Chris Hemsworth vs Hollywood Hunk #3 vs Hollywood Hunk #4

  39. Ragnorke September 5, 2014 at 3:46 pm -      #39

    Oh, to add onto my previous post (#35)… i had no idea it was a team based match up.
    So yea, i’m going with team 2.

  40. erickyboo September 5, 2014 at 3:47 pm -      #40

    My my, such controversy. Imagine Admin introducing the winners to the worlds of fiction we debate so passionately.

    I think Kate Upton might be the best in fighting capabilities since apparently she did horse riding thing. She’s the tallest and heaviest so she has that too. I’m not an expert of equine stuff but I’d think you have to be in a certain shape to effectively do that.

  41. Ranger Lowk September 5, 2014 at 3:55 pm -      #41

    “The Rock vs Chris Hemsworth vs Hollywood Hunk #3 vs Hollywood Hunk #4″

    The Black guy from Criminal minds. Shemar something, moore i think.

    Question though, do most women find multiple guys wrestling as sexy as most men find women doing the same? I figured the stereotypical woman would have different sort of taste then the male counterpart… or is that sexist thinking?

  42. Glutinous-Bicarbonate September 5, 2014 at 3:58 pm -      #42

    I generally don’t like real world matches, they’re harder to debate and in some cases can get into topics that people are very defensive regarding.

    So in that train, this match hasn’t got much for me, since I don’t know anything of import about them and that don’t even have cool superpowers to make me interested in learning more.

    Considering it all, I think a lot of the controversy at the current could have been avoided if the scenario had both genders. It would still be a boring match in the end for my part, but there wouldn’t have been quite so much of a problem.

    But yeah, this gets an “eh” as per the usual with the debates that aren’t really in my capacity to participate in.

  43. Ragnorke September 5, 2014 at 4:03 pm -      #43

    @Lowk
    “Question though, do most women find multiple guys wrestling as sexy as most men find women doing the same?”

    Most of my lady friends are rather… interested (to say the least)… when it comes to WWE wrestlers.

  44. Envoy September 5, 2014 at 6:02 pm -      #44

    “Question though, do most women find multiple guys wrestling as sexy as most men find women doing the same? I figured the stereotypical woman would have different sort of taste then the male counterpart… or is that sexist thinking?”
    +
    The power of (lady)boners is equal to both genders. Isn’t that what feminism is all about?

  45. Ranger Lowk September 5, 2014 at 6:32 pm -      #45

    “Most of my lady friends are rather… interested (to say the least)… when it comes to WWE wrestlers.”

    Lol good to know that male or female, gay or straight. We’ve all found something about wrestling interesting at some point.

  46. Darth Bombad September 5, 2014 at 6:51 pm -      #46

    Immature, offensive, suggested by a moron, but worst of all…
    It was just…boring and an overall waste of time.

    So i award Sadot06 the anti-FP Award!
    lounge.moviecodec.com/images/attachment/dragonballzgt-vs-logia-fruit-users-5157.jpg

    You very much earned it!.

  47. sadot06 September 5, 2014 at 7:00 pm -      #47

    Darth’s got too much sodium in his diet

  48. pimpmage September 5, 2014 at 7:10 pm -      #48

    ^I bet he feels… salty.

    Bah dum tiss….

  49. Ragnorke September 5, 2014 at 7:26 pm -      #49

    “So i award Sadot06 the anti-FP Award!”

    LT’s dead. So, that picture’s invalid.

  50. Ninja Xtreme September 5, 2014 at 7:53 pm -      #50

    Darth Bombad is right, this is a waste of time. Ellie had a Shulk Vs Terra Branford fight, and that’s sooooo much better than this. Also, how did the Living Tribunal die?

  51. Ragnorke September 5, 2014 at 8:19 pm -      #51

    “Also, how did the Living Tribunal die?”

    There’s a massive discussion about it in the Wonderwoman vs Thor thread.
    Bottomline is, no one knows.

  52. Soulerous September 5, 2014 at 8:31 pm -      #52

    Hey kara, pointing out distinctions of gender is in itself… sexist…
    ~
    No, to be sexist it must carry a negative connotation based only on the difference in sex. Acknowledging gender differences is not sexism.

  53. Ragnorke September 5, 2014 at 9:15 pm -      #53

    “Acknowledging gender differences is not sexism.”

    The problem is, there is no real gender difference taking place.
    It’s an all female match. Ok… so what?
    There’s nothing wrong with it whatsoever.
    The fact that Kara was consistently trying to make it seem like it’s wrong, makes her sexist. Caus lets face it, had it been a men only match, she wouldn’t have given a shit.

  54. Aelfinn September 5, 2014 at 9:35 pm -      #54

    I gotta be honest…this match doesn’t sit well with me. Of course, I’m a guy, and while I would admittedly find enjoyment if these women voluntarily decided to enter a match such as this, the fact of the matter is, they didn’t. This is fairly clearly a masturbatory/similar fantasy, and there’s no real way around that.
    =
    “The fact that Kara was consistently trying to make it seem like it’s wrong, makes her sexist. ”

    That’s not the definition of sexism. Sexism is believing that one gender is superior or inferior to another. At no point did Kara say something like that. There IS something wrong with this match, btw. I’m not particularly angry at Admin, I will say, but I feel he should have held off on this match.
    =
    “Caus lets face it, had it been a men only match, she wouldn’t have given a shit.”

    The fact of the matter is, a men-only match was not made, and that’s the biggest difference in the world. If you look at practically any aspect of how society treats women, you’ll notice that they are treated far more as sex objects than men (not to mention being paid far less, with far fewer roles of power). This match effectively sets up these women as little more than sex dolls right from the get-go, and that isn’t right.

    Now, if women voluntarily decide to become nothing more than sex dolls, that’s their choice, but that clearly didn’t happen here. Furthermore, it’s our responsibility as men to recognize that despite some women’s choice to be objectified, not all women wish that.
    =
    If you haven’t guessed, I’m a feminist (or close to it, I’m unfortunately not very active), but that’s only because I’ve yet to hear a reasonable counter-argument to it.

  55. pimpmage September 5, 2014 at 10:21 pm -      #55

    I would discuss how feminist movements are counter productive to equality… but sadly this is not the right kind of place to voice such thoughts.

  56. Darth Bombad September 5, 2014 at 10:50 pm -      #56

    @Ragnorke
    “Caus lets face it, had it been a men only match, she wouldn’t have given a shit.”

    That’s cause men don’t have to deal with this kind of thing as much, if at all.
    That defense is pretty lame and rather simple minded.
    Fact is this match was just plain creepy and weird from the beginning.

  57. OberHerr September 5, 2014 at 11:01 pm -      #57

    Yeah, while I genuinely would be interested in how a fight between a group of people, female models, which are generally not seen as and often aren’t that physically imposing fighting…..the scenario its in is just weird. Pudding fight? Removal of clothes? Date with Admin…..well actually, I call dibs on that one. But the rest is just… O.o

    Though seriously, I wanna know who would win in a fight, the Rock or Terry Crews. I’d bet on Crews, but the Rock does have actual fighting experience, even if its fake wrestling.

  58. pimpmage September 5, 2014 at 11:02 pm -      #58

    “That’s cause men don’t have to deal with this kind of thing as much, if at all.”

    That same line of logic is what makes people say, if you ain’t got nothing to hide, let us search through all your stuff. Sure it’s logical, but it still isn’t right.

  59. Darth Bombad September 5, 2014 at 11:23 pm -      #59

    ^ pimpmage
    I….literally have no idea how those two things are connected.
    Are you saying women and minorities in general aren’t aloud to complain.

    Simply because rich white men claim that they wouldn’t complain
    if it happened to them?. (which is total bull)

    You can laugh at it cause it doesn’t happen to you for real, so no
    a match with buff men in speedo’s wouldn’t be the same.

    P.S i knew there was a reason i liked Aelfinn and Ober so much. (fist bump)

  60. OberHerr September 5, 2014 at 11:43 pm -      #60

    I will say I’m more of a gender equalist, is that I think both genders have natural differences and problems due to society and biologically, and none can really be called worse than the other. Like how women are sexualized by men often, but that’s because we’re hardwired more so than women to think that way about them. Hence why when you want to sell something to roughly 1/2 of the world, its an easy shortcut. Is it wrong? Sometimes, depending. But it works, and businesses don’t care too much about the wishy-washy morals of society as long as it makes them money.

    But then, on the other side of the coin, you have men’s issues, like how ridiculously hard it is for a father to win custody of his kids in a divorce, even if the mom is cartoonishly evil, like drug and alcohol addictions evil.

    Same with things like guy’s not being able to show much, or as many emotions in public, but also the trade off being an apparent lessening of drama as well.

    I’m not feminist, that’s definitely for sure. I just think both genders have problems and issues, and maybe some suck more than others, but rarely is one person totally subject to all their genders disadvantages and none of the advantages(with the exception of ugly people, but that’s both sides).

    That being said, this match was sexualized. I’m the kind of person who isn’t comfortable with the idea of girls sending me nude pictures, due to personal beliefs and morals, and the idea of this match being made purely as a fight seems….unlikely. While I can’t say I wouldn’t enjoy the spectacle of the mentioned match description, I would have preferred a simple, but different, tag team fight.

  61. pimpmage September 6, 2014 at 12:05 am -      #61

    “Are you saying women and minorities in general aren’t aloud to complain.”

    No. I am talking about the most basic meaning of equality. Pointing out differences in equality means unequal thoughts exist within your mind. Separating gender of any kind is sexist.
    Separating race of any kind is racist.

    “You can laugh at it cause it doesn’t happen to you for real, so no
    a match with buff men in speedo’s wouldn’t be the same.”

    Nobody here is laughing. Why would such a match not be the exact same? It is literally the exact situation but genderswapped. If genders were truly equal in every shape or form, there would never be such a problem. But men and woman are not equal. So why is a match like this in an uproar because one gender is inequal to another in a specific way?

  62. Ranger Lowk September 6, 2014 at 12:41 am -      #62

    “even if the mom is cartoonishly evil”

    I’m sorry you had a real point but all I could think off after this was a mix of this stache
    i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/The_Faust74/DRMindbender_zpsaa3adc7f.jpg
    On this person
    38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7ivpunetR1ql7ehgo2_1280.png

  63. Aelfinn September 6, 2014 at 12:56 am -      #63

    “I would discuss how feminist movements are counter productive to equality…”

    Wurt.
    You’re seriously coming off as the cliche internet-dweller who thinks feminists are these massive bitches who only want to put men down, when the movement is entirely about ensuring the same rights between genders. I will FULLY admit that there are inequalities and injustices when it comes to men (such as how women are hired much more often than them), but the thing is, men weren’t oppressed for thousands of years. At no point in history has it been better to be born a woman than a man (well, maybe in some Native American tribes), and it’s not like that wasn’t ingrained into our society. Recognizing these subconscious stereotypes and sexisms is important to ensuring both genders are treated equally, and that’s a big part of feminism.
    =
    “Nobody here is laughing. Why would such a match not be the exact same? It is literally the exact situation but genderswapped. If genders were truly equal in every shape or form, there would never be such a problem. But men and woman are not equal. So why is a match like this in an uproar because one gender is inequal to another in a specific way?”

    Have you ever been cat-called? I haven’t, but have you? Here’s something for you to do: talk to some attractive female friend about whether they’ve been cat-called or not. Trust me, it’s probably happened to them. I’ve seen my friends make facebook statuses about it happening to them, I’ve seen it happen directly in front of me to my friends, and one of my friends was even called to by a bunch of bikers despite the fact that she was underage. That’s not even getting into Fraternity life up at college, where, let me tell you, they do not treat women well at all. It’s an entirely different environment for the two genders, and why a match such as this can obviously offend someone, while a similar match with male participants can be laughed off.

  64. OberHerr September 6, 2014 at 1:39 am -      #64

    One thing I would point out is you don’t just take something that happened a hundred years ago and assume it still affects society heavily today. Which is why I’m against things like Affirmative Action. Do some people of various races face racism today, and require help? Yes. Do all? No. Should we then just add a blanket “free aid if you pass this DNA test” to anyone based merely on the race they happen to share, and not the actual need? I’m of the opinion, no. Course I’m more for a society that helps kids who are in trouble simply because they are in trouble, and not because they were born from a formerly oppressed race.

    And Aelf, while I do agreed with some of your points, the biggest problem I have with anyone who idenifies today as a feminist, or a MRA, or whatever is it implies just one side has problems. Both sides face discrimination of some sort, some justified, like women often being less fit than men for hard labor jobs, or not, like women being singled out for acting “slutty”.(my version of it for guys is the various dudebros and frats that plague this world. Specifically guys who seem to not understand that I don’t wanna see them shirtless or wearing basically a towel with a hole in the middle)

  65. OberHerr September 6, 2014 at 1:45 am -      #65

    Though, frankly, if you visit most party school frats or sororities, you’ll find the worst the school has to offer often. Same with clubs at night, and things like Tinder and Grindr, as well as the normal allotment of online douchebags on FB. The loudest and most obnoxious make the stereotypes.

  66. sadot06 September 6, 2014 at 1:46 am -      #66

    I’m quite surprised this morphed into a forum on gender equality. When the admin came back I thought of some cool matches (Lotus match, Teams anime comic games books) and paid him for them. Then as a joke and to cheer him up I sent him the pudding match where he get’s a simple date at the end. I didn’t think he’d actually post it. I have a match that I actually paid for pending that I think will go off pretty well. I also didn’t think he’d add the do what thy will room scenario. But that said, when I saw it posted, I laughed it off because I thought, ah well, who gives a shit. I’ve seen plenty of goofy matches on the site and we’ve had some pretty good ones this week, so who cares? How the hell did this turn into a debate on how society treats women? The women in this match are not murdering each other, per the usual standard, they’re obviously depicted as sex objects but guess what, they all voluntarily do that for a living in real life and are paid more money than most of us will ever see to do it. Lighten up. There is nothing malicious about a fictional pudding match between rich super models to see who get’s a date with the admin of BankGambling that wasn’t even intended to be posted. But I’d like to point this out:

    1. The if the roles were reversed you wouldn’t care argument is not valid. It’s 100% true, but it’s not reverse sexism. That’s like saying well if White people are depicted negatively in the press black people wouldn’t care, so their grievances aren’t valid. Stop it. That’s false equivalence. Men are obviously also used as sex objects, but there is clearly a different connotation associated with a lot of it and a whole history behind it.


    2. In America, I think gender inequality is overblown and not nearly as problematic as it’s implied, especially compared to other inequalities. While the cause is very valid and alarming in other parts of the less than civilized world, I just don’t like when people get tunnel vision and only act as if there thing is all that’s going on. Too many mainstream gender equality arguments for instance act as if just having a penis put’s you above everything in America, as if class based financial inequality and institutionalized racism aren’t a thing. I have no problems with a worthy cause, as long as it has perspective.


    3. Kara’s argument isn’t sexist. It’s aggressive, it’s judgmental, it’s hypocritical, but it isn’t sexist to point out that attractive women aren’t treated the same. The Magic Mike movie doesn’t change that.

  67. pimpmage September 6, 2014 at 2:10 am -      #67

    “You’re seriously coming off as the cliche internet-dweller who thinks feminists are these massive bitches who only want to put men down”

    I have seen all sort of feminists. People like placing themselves in groups that share a common idea/goal. Most groups seek to ‘take’ equality from the opposing gender and gift it to themselves. How is this gender equality if organized feminism forces inequality?

    You know, the KKK still exists to this modern day. They promote the ‘equality’ of the caucasian race. Now, why would you say the modern day KKK is still hated or disliked? Because they promote separation of races other than themselves? I am not saying femenists are the KKK. I am comparing a well known racist organization. They are racist in the same way feminists are sexist. The same way ‘male’ power groups can be sexist.

  68. Parry Boy September 6, 2014 at 2:42 am -      #68

    Human Women vs Battles…
    I knew there was something bad going on here.

  69. Soulerous September 6, 2014 at 3:04 am -      #69

    @Pimpmage- “No. I am talking about the most basic meaning of equality. Pointing out differences in equality means unequal thoughts exist within your mind. Separating gender of any kind is sexist.
    ~
    Once again, that is not the definition. Gender equality is not about the sexes being literally equal in the sense that “red is red,” which is the principle you’re describing. It is about equal worth. Pointing out differences is not sexist because the sexes have differences but are still equal, which would not be true if your above definition of sexism were correct; the sexes would be unequal.
    ~
    If genders were truly equal in every shape or form, there would never be such a problem. But men and woman are not equal.
    ~
    You are confusing two different things that should not be confused. Men and women are equal in worth and (ideally) in rights and respect, They have equal value as people. That is what is meant by gender equality, not that they are literally the same. Sexism is when this equality is denied, not when physical or behavioral differences are acknowledged.
    ~
    I have seen all sort of feminists. People like placing themselves in groups that share a common idea/goal. Most groups seek to ‘take’ equality from the opposing gender and gift it to themselves. How is this gender equality if organized feminism forces inequality?
    ~
    I really don’t think you have seen all sorts at all, because what you are describing is not feminism. These are the so-called “radical feminists” or “feminazis” that are after some warped form of equality that is actually inequality, and you can find stuff on them all over the internet. Some can be quite nasty. The majority of those who claim to be feminists are normal, reasonable people who seek true equality on behalf of women, and usually don’t rant about it online in a volatile way. For example, the brilliant Hayao Miyazaki is a feminist.
    ~
    And the KKK philosophy is in no way, shape or form equivalent to that of actual feminism. Racism is racism and gender equality is gender equality, and the most important thing to note here is that using the warped definitions offered by fools does not help make a point regarding what they actually mean.
    ~
    @Orber- “the biggest problem I have with anyone who idenifies today as a feminist, or a MRA, or whatever is it implies just one side has problems
    ~
    It does not imply that anymore than a children’s hospital implies adults do not need medical attention. They do not oppose each other; men’s rights advocacy and women’s rights advocacy are not mutually exclusive. As statements they essentially equate to “this is good, we want this,” but does not include any commentary on the counterpart. I am a feminist simply because I believe in and support gender equality. I am also pro-black, but this certainly does not imply that I am not pro-white.

  70. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets September 6, 2014 at 5:10 am -      #70

    ” I wanna know who would win in a fight, the Rock or Terry Crews. I’d bet on Crews, but the Rock does have actual fighting experience, even if its fake wrestling.”

    I’d go with the Rock, very slight weight and height advantage+combat experience.
    Terry Crews; 6’3″ 245lbs
    The Rock 6’5″ 265lbs

  71. The Amazing Dualgunner September 6, 2014 at 6:30 am -      #71

    The Rock (The Rock) vs the Boulder (Avatar), naked mud wrestling. No bending allowed.

  72. Nomad September 6, 2014 at 7:44 am -      #72

    “The Rock (The Rock) vs the Boulder (Avatar), naked mud wrestling. No bending allowed.”

    treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/628331/resized_boulder-conflicted-meme-generator-the-boulder-feels-conflicted-fce497.jpg

    Come back to the forums Dualgunner!

  73. Friendlysociopath September 6, 2014 at 9:38 am -      #73

    Better idea; pick the top 6 Hollywood hot men, give them chainsaws and the last man with all 5 limbs intact wins.

  74. Sauroposeidon September 6, 2014 at 10:23 am -      #74

    “There IS something wrong with this match, btw.”

    That thing is that it’s boooooring.

    ” If you look at practically any aspect of how society treats women, you’ll notice that they are treated far more as sex objects than men (not to mention being paid far less, with far fewer roles of power). This match effectively sets up these women as little more than sex dolls right from the get-go, and that isn’t right.”

    You’ll notice that women are treated in a sexual manner by men far more often than by women. Women sexualize men just as much, although not in the same fashion. There’s really no difference at all between the genders in this regard. At all. Not even a tiny bit.

    Women are generally paid equal. The pay gap is a myth perpetuated by feminists. There is only a sliver of it due to lingering sexism.

    Women do not seek roles of power in America because they usually do not want them. This is somewhat different in Europe. Is the cause cultural? Maybe. I await further scientific studies conducted by non-feminist sources.

    There is nothing wrong with making them sex dolls. Chances are they got burned to death in any America vs (insert other place here) match when shit devolved in to nuclear war. Talking about them in a sexual manner isn’t wrong. We force people to fight to the death here. Making them pudding wrestle is far less offensive.

    “Now, if women voluntarily decide to become nothing more than sex dolls, that’s their choice, but that clearly didn’t happen here. Furthermore, it’s our responsibility as men to recognize that despite some women’s choice to be objectified, not all women wish that.”

    Bet you they didn’t want to murder either. But thanks to me the match rules have been changed to that. This has since become a rocket launcher duel amid a zombie horde match. Is that less offensive to you? If so, why? Would it matter if we switched them to men? It doesn’t matter whether we do or not, just whether it would if we did. Because if this is degrading to women then it’s degrading to men as well, but no one would care more than this being a waste of a day’s match if this were men wrestling. Kind of like how that’s a main gripe with it currently.

    “I would discuss how feminist movements are counter productive to equality… but sadly this is not the right kind of place to voice such thoughts.”

    True. I suggest you guys take this to the BankGamblingtopia forums for further discussion.

    “That’s cause men don’t have to deal with this kind of thing as much, if at all.
    That defense is pretty lame and rather simple minded.”

    And this IS what feminism does. Female pudding wrestling? Creepy. Horrible cannibal death being devoured alive? Perfectly ok! Fucktards.

    “Nobody here is laughing.”

    I laughed at the idea, actually. But I’m an asshole. Let’s make them tight ass republicans that right wing ladies get all kinds of hot and bothered for. Let’s get a couple of country rock stars, a few politicians, and maybe some TV personality. That way we know for sure that they would never consent to being put in a pudding wrestling match.

    There is nothing more wrong with this, or my male wrestling idea, than there is by Hustler publishing an incestuous sex story about Jerry Falwell. This kind of stuff is protected as a right for us for a god damn reason for fuck’s sake.

    “I really don’t think you have seen all sorts at all, because what you are describing is not feminism. These are the so-called “radical feminists” or “feminazis” that are after some warped form of equality that is actually inequality, and you can find stuff on them all over the internet. Some can be quite nasty. The majority of those who claim to be feminists are normal, reasonable people who seek true equality on behalf of women, and usually don’t rant about it online in a volatile way. For example, the brilliant Hayao Miyazaki is a feminist.”

    Anything can be twisted and corrupted. In countries like Japan, feminism has more worth. They really are much more sexist over there. Over here in America and in Canada, Feminism has for years been a pro-female agenda driven force for years now. It is only so dangerous because of the leverage it has gained from the good it has done, or no one would fucking respect it at all. We must always be wary of groups like them. It’s very easy for it to get derailed and sent down a very dark path.

    “You’re seriously coming off as the cliche internet-dweller who thinks feminists are these massive bitches who only want to put men down, “-
    This is 99% of the female feminists I have encountered on the internet. Feminists on the internet account for 100% of the feminists I have encountered IRL.

    It’s not cliche. It’s just the fucking truth of our experience, dude. Although by and large I run in to male white knights championing them. Almost all of them don’t even seem to understand what they’re talking about, though.

  75. Ragnorke September 6, 2014 at 10:42 am -      #75

    @Aelfinn
    “This match effectively sets up these women as little more than sex dolls right from the get-go, and that isn’t right.”

    Considering some of these woman are nude models, i think they consider themselves sex dolls too.
    But that isn’t really the issue here.

    “This is fairly clearly a masturbatory/similar fantasy, and there’s no real way around that.”

    The match description is wonky to say the least, and i agree with you on that. But i’v honestly been thinking of it as a regular WWE wrestling match, and not as an overly sexualized catfight.
    If you ignore the creepy match description, it actually becomes a some what debatable topic. Not a good topic, but a debatable one. And it definitely isn’t as bad as say the Deathstar vs the British Bulldog, as far as the matchup goes.

    So as i said, had this been 4 well built half naked men, having a mud fight, no one would have given a shit.
    I mean, there would be a few “that’s sorta homo Admin” comments here and there, but it would be treated as a regular match for the most part.
    The fact that this match isn’t being treated as a regular match, and has stirred up all this drama, is what makes the inequality between men and woman stir up.

    @Ober
    “Pudding fight? Removal of clothes? Date with Admin…..well actually, I call dibs on that one. But the rest is just… O.o”

    I kinda just ignored all that.

    “But then, on the other side of the coin, you have men’s issues, like how ridiculously hard it is for a father to win custody of his kids in a divorce, even if the mom is cartoonishly evil, like drug and alcohol addictions evil.”

    I’v seen some disgusting cases that woman have won, simply because they were woman.
    Made me want to punch someone.

  76. erickyboo September 6, 2014 at 12:39 pm -      #76

    Well, I’m bi. Might contribute to things.
    But I suppose I see things differently, and literary too since I have ‘visual snow’.
    Gender and race are social constructs, and bad ones. There is only humans, not a division of them biologically. I see humans, and humans have a variety of outer aspects. And gender? That too. Dumb. Being told by society what you have to do or how to act depending on your sex? Nope. If a guy wants to wear a dress, ok. If a girl wants to play with bionicles instead if stereotypical ‘girl’ toys, ok. The biological differences? Some. Psychological differences? Might not be as big as people think. A lot of it also likely has to do with conditioning I guess.

    I want equality baseline for all.

  77. Soulerous September 6, 2014 at 1:23 pm -      #77

    Gender and race are social constructs, and bad ones. There is only humans, not a division of them biologically
    ~
    Of course there’s a division of them biologically. Different races have actual physical differences, and obviously the sexes do. I think you mean there are social constructs attached to them, which is true, These constructs can limit people from doing things there is no real reason for them not to do, also true. I do not believe that every single construct is incorrect; I will forever fight against women having the right to be topless in the general public.
    ~
    Psychological differences? Might not be as big as people think. A lot of it also likely has to do with conditioning I guess.
    ~
    Conditioning/nurturing is always a factor, but it’s worth noting that there are significant differences between the male and female brains. Some information is processed differently, some things felt more acutely, and some things accomplished more easily (mentally). Women have more pain receptors, for one example. Men have more grey matter in their brains, for another. Women have more white matter.

  78. Ranger Lowk September 6, 2014 at 3:51 pm -      #78

    “I’m quite surprised this morphed into a forum on gender equality.”

    Really? I mean other match have veered off in strange direction before.

  79. pimpmage September 6, 2014 at 3:58 pm -      #79

    @Sauro
    Well said at #74. *slow claps*

  80. The Amazing Dualgunner September 6, 2014 at 4:33 pm -      #80

    “treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/628331/resized_boulder-conflicted-meme-generator-the-boulder-feels-conflicted-fce497.jpg

    Come back to the forums Dualgunner!”
    LOL!
    I think I’ll pop in then.

  81. OberHerr September 6, 2014 at 4:52 pm -      #81

    I gotta say, this is probably the most reasonable discussion I’ve managed to have on the internet involving such a hot topic issue. Very little flaming or overreacting, just people stating their points.

    +1 BankGambling for the Good Guy of the Internet Award.

  82. OberHerr September 6, 2014 at 5:09 pm -      #82

    But, yes the being payed less statistic is bullshit, for few reasons. Yes, if you took all of the men in Americas salaries and all the women’s, averaged them accordingly, men would seem to be payed more. But the reason is 1. Men are more likely to take more risky, better paying jobs, like construction, as opposed to women, who often take jobs in environments that are safer, and as such often payed a bit less.

    2. While lots of women are in the work force when married now, maturity leave is a thing. As such, women don’t always get paid fully what they would if they were working while on leave, and there isn’t anything wrong with that. They aren’t working after all, but they are still receiving some money.

    3. This is something I’m not quite sure is a reason, but I’d guess another is due to things like sports being dominated by male athletes due to people generally wanting to see the best in a sport, and women simply can’t compete with men physically. Though its also probably balanced out some due to the massive average pay gap between male and female models, favoring women heavily. But I’d guess things like that skew results too.

    Essentially, if you ever hear the 75 cents to a dollar thing, it doesn’t factor in all the possible reasons why a women might not make more money over her lifetime to a man, and just assumes sexism because research and finding info that doesn’t fit your prethought conclusion is hard.

  83. Ragnorke September 6, 2014 at 5:14 pm -      #83

    “hough its also probably balanced out some due to the massive average pay gap between male and female models, favoring women heavily.”

    This isn’t true. Male models make just as much as female models.
    Unless you’re talking about Nude Models… But even then, men would be payed just as much, there just aren’t as many of them.
    Finding a well built, good looking man, who’s hung like a horse, isn’t easy.

  84. Soulerous September 6, 2014 at 5:26 pm -      #84

    Anything can be twisted and corrupted
    ~
    Exactly. Judging things on warped versions of themselves is illogical. If I were to take Issue A and twist and corrupt it, it would no longer be Issue A; it would be Issue B. One cannot then assert that Issue A is bad on the basis of Issue B being bad and them both sharing the same name. Dennis.

  85. Glutinous-Bicarbonate September 6, 2014 at 5:32 pm -      #85

    Despite the poor potential of the original match parameters, it has managed to spark debate nonetheless, so not all is lost. Controversial or not, I encourage the discussion.

  86. Sauroposeidon September 6, 2014 at 6:15 pm -      #86

    “Gender and race are social constructs, and bad ones. ”

    Your complete failure to understand biology does not render things such as race and gender bad nor does it make them not exist.

  87. Sauroposeidon September 6, 2014 at 6:19 pm -      #87

    ” Very little flaming or overreacting, just people stating their points.”

    That’s because this isn’t a social justice warrior hugbox or guys burned by women who are now female hating ass hats poisoning the male side of the discussion with their vitriol. I’m probably the most hard line anti-feminist here.

  88. pimpmage September 6, 2014 at 6:25 pm -      #88

    Lets just all form a big circle and reach a hand to over to the person at your right….

  89. Ranger Lowk September 6, 2014 at 7:09 pm -      #89

    “Lets just all form a big circle and reach a hand to over to the person at your right….”

    And help him or her get off. Thats where that was going right?

  90. Darth Bombad September 6, 2014 at 7:11 pm -      #90

    @Sadot06
    “1. The if the roles were reversed you wouldn’t care argument is not valid. It’s 100% true, but it’s not reverse sexism. That’s like saying well if White people are depicted negatively in the press black people wouldn’t care, so their grievances aren’t valid. Stop it. That’s false equivalence. Men are obviously also used as sex objects, but there is clearly a different connotation associated with a lot of it and a whole history behind it.”

    I retract what i said about Sadot06, you said what i was thinking
    far better than i could have, respect. (fist bump)

    Pimpmage on the other hand continues to use flawed logic and weird reasoning.
    With specious analogies that try and connect something bad.
    To something completely different just to make his point seem valid.

    P.S i am happy people have been so civil to eachother.
    Fist bump’s for everyone!….(O.K i’ll stop doing that now)

    @Lowk
    Errrrr dude what’s your hand doing down there!?!.

  91. Sauroposeidon September 6, 2014 at 7:17 pm -      #91

    Unless the people to either immediate side of me are ridiculously beautiful women… No.

    Actually. Fuck that. No.

    ” Judging things on warped versions of themselves is illogical.”

    I don’t think anyone said feminism is all bad. Just that it can do bad and has in fact done bad. My personal experience with feminism is Anita Sarkessian and Atheism+. The SJW’s have become ingrained enough that anti-white-male articles are common in gaming journalism now and gamergate has occurred. That is how feminism has made its way in to my life.

  92. Soulerous September 6, 2014 at 7:31 pm -      #92

    That is how feminism has made its way in to my life.
    ~
    I basically heard the term and then went to look up the definition. I then observed idiocy being perpetrated in the name of feminism, looked at the individual points the people were making, and saw that they did not fit said definition. I also saw cool people like Hayao Miyazaki (as I mentioned above) and saw that they did fit. So that was my introduction.

  93. Sauroposeidon September 6, 2014 at 7:44 pm -      #93

    I don’t know if I’d really support arguments based on authority…

  94. Soulerous September 6, 2014 at 8:06 pm -      #94

    Meaning we can’t declare other definitions false arbitrarily? They are two different things either way, simply called by the same name by different people. I use the term as recognized by the dictionaries and the reasonable advocates.

  95. Ragnorke September 6, 2014 at 8:15 pm -      #95

    Ok, this is sightly going off track… I don’t think anyone has called feminism bad. It isn’t bad, as long as it’s just asked for equal rights.
    And lets to totally honest now, the year 2014, both genders have it as equal as it’s gunna get, in all first world countries anyways.
    I’d go as far as to say woman have it slightly better… I personally know a guy that was drugged and raped, but couldn’t press charges caus the person that did it was a chick. Yea, that actually happens, in first world countries. But that’s neither here nor there…

    The problem here wasn’t whether feminism is bad or not, but rather: Is this match anti-feminist.
    The answer is No. It isn’t anit-feminist.
    This match isn’t really degrading these woman. If anything, it’s supporting and publicizing what they do for living. Which is sexy lingerie modelling, and in some cases even nude modelling.

    The match description was a little… err… we coulda done without it, no doubt. But it’s just a match, like many others. It involves real people instead of fictional characters, but why is that such a big deal? it’s been done before hasn’t it?
    Instead of being treated as a regular match, which was the original intention, it’s now being treated as a: “These nude models are being sexually visualized by people on the internet! That’s fucking horrible! Why would anyone do that?!?!?! This match is so bullshit and anti-feminist!!!!!”
    See the problem here?

  96. Soulerous September 6, 2014 at 8:36 pm -      #96

    I don’t think anyone has called feminism bad.
    ~
    I had originally been replying to post #67, by the way.

  97. Secrecy27 September 6, 2014 at 8:39 pm -      #97

    And lets to totally honest now, the year 2014, both genders have it as equal as it’s gunna get

    There are some things that could be improved, but…
    =
    F!’s policy:
    “F! shall operate for a program to be created to analyze and retrain men so they change their consumption- and transport- patterns to benefit the climate and a sustainable development.”
    =
    F! (Feministiskt initiativ/feminist Initiative) is a political party in Sweden, and they are likely to make it to the parliament this year.

    So, who said idiocy was being perpetrated in the name of feminism?

  98. Sauroposeidon September 6, 2014 at 8:42 pm -      #98

    “I personally know a guy that was drugged and raped, but couldn’t press charges caus the person that did it was a chick.”

    That’s because it’s not illegal for a woman to force a man to have sex with her. A woman can’t rape a man by the definition of the law, through having traditional vaginal intercourse with him even if he does not provide his consent and even makes it clear that he strongly wishes to avoid the encounter.

  99. Soulerous September 6, 2014 at 8:45 pm -      #99

    So, who said idiocy was being perpetrated in the name of feminism?
    ~
    You can find my actual statement in post #92.
    ~
    @Sauroposeidon- Surely you jest.

  100. Sauroposeidon September 6, 2014 at 8:46 pm -      #100

    No. The law has never protected men from rape. The original version of it only protected females.

    It was revised in 2012. I’ve heard that the reason men were excluded this time was due to feminist interference but I don’t know the names of anyone involved so I can neither confirm nor deny it. I’ve seen it as a major complaint from the male equivalent of feminists, the MRA.

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