What If…The Yuuzhan Vong invaded the Pokemon Universe?

What If...The Yuuzhan Vong invaded the Pokemon Universe?

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What impact would the Yuuzhan Vong have?
Who could fight back from the Pokemon universe?
Would the Vong need help from any other Star Wars empire?
What else would transpire?

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63 Comments on "What If…The Yuuzhan Vong invaded the Pokemon Universe?"

  1. Xornell July 22, 2014 at 6:14 am -      #1

    Interesting match. Really depends on the capabilities of the god Pokemon. I’ve heard amen crazy shit about Pokemon in general.

  2. Rookie July 22, 2014 at 6:17 am -      #2

    Either top-tiers among Pokemons step in and stop Vongs or Vongs will conquer the verse.

  3. Kaladin Stormblessed July 22, 2014 at 7:13 am -      #3

    If the Poke-Gods step in early, the Vong lose.

    On the other hand, if the Vong capture one of those Poke-Gods, then oh boy. Genetic manipulation and mind-screwing could make things… interesting, to say the least.

  4. Epicazeroth July 22, 2014 at 8:18 am -      #4

    Probably Legendaries destroy the Vong.

  5. pimpmage July 22, 2014 at 8:26 am -      #5

    Top tier god pokemon are the creators of the known pokemon verse. I don’t know how its is possible to catch them but who knows *-*

  6. Namer July 22, 2014 at 8:48 am -      #6

    Fairly certain everything below the Pokegods would be boned. They’re based on a single planet, after all.

  7. ZomBraum July 22, 2014 at 8:50 am -      #7

    They’d still be non-canon.

  8. OberHerr July 22, 2014 at 10:54 am -      #8

    Well….I mean apparently various legendary Pokemon created the universe….so take that for what it is.

  9. Xornell July 22, 2014 at 11:07 am -      #9

    If the Vong are out to destroy Pokeworld instead of conquering it, they could probably just pew it from orbit. Pokegods are nice, but the fact that you can beat them down with your own Pokemans means they aren’t omnilocked.

  10. Jolttra July 22, 2014 at 11:19 am -      #10

    Interestin. The various mons might.be enough to.hold of.a.ground invasion. But they would be crushed undare.a hellfire of of Plasma from orbit. If that doesn’t work the Vong could push the Poke Earth’s Moon so it crashes into the planet.

  11. OberHerr July 22, 2014 at 11:42 am -      #11

    Well, thats my point. They might be able to actually kill them in orbit.

  12. Friendlysociopath July 22, 2014 at 11:45 am -      #12

    Does anyone think a Digimon universe VS Pokemon universe might be interesting?

  13. jackn8r July 22, 2014 at 11:59 am -      #13

    Going by anime feats, the Vong have a pretty easy time (Pokemon have HUGE amounts of CIS.) Going by Pokedex legends and manga feats, legendaries handle it.
    @Friendlysociopath
    BankGambling.com/1981-pokemon-vs-digimon/

  14. Jolttra July 22, 2014 at 1:03 pm -      #14

    I just.thought of something. What if the Vong captured a bunch of Pokemon then used their shaping skills to pervert them into weapons of war? Can you imagine what they could do with a Gyrados or a Salamance.

  15. Sauroposeidon July 22, 2014 at 1:54 pm -      #15

    I would probably integrate a Vong in to my team since it’d likely be considered a “Dark Type” and I’ve been wanting to experiment with them more recently.

  16. Alpha or Omega July 22, 2014 at 2:49 pm -      #16

    Anime is non-canon to the main canon like Enigma-J and Envoy said due to the fact that it contradicts the main canon.
    /
    Non-legendaries
    Magcargo is nearly twice as hot as the sun.
    “Magcargo’s body temperature is approximately 18,000 degrees F. Water is vaporized on contact. If this Pokémon is caught in the rain, the raindrops instantly turn into steam, cloaking the area in a thick fog.” (Sapphire).
    /
    Machamp is crazy strong
    “One arm alone can move mountains. Using all four arms, this Pokémon fires off awesome punches.” (Yellow).

    “MACHAMP is known as the POKéMON that has mastered every kind of martial arts. If it grabs hold of the foe with its four arms, the battle is all but over. The hapless foe is thrown far over the horizon.” (Sapphire)

    “Its four ruggedly developed arms can launch a flurry of 1,000 punches in just two seconds.” (FireRed)
    /
    Gardevoir
    “Gardevoir has the psychokinetic power to distort the dimensions and create a small black hole. This Pokémon will try to protect its Trainer even at the risk of its own life.” (Sapphire)
    /
    Muk
    “Thickly covered with a filthy, vile sludge. It is so toxic, even its footprints contain poison.” (Red&Blue)

    “As it moves, a very strong poison leaks from it, making the ground there barren for three years.” (Crystal).

    “From MUK’s body seeps a foul fluid that gives off a nose-bendingly horrible stench. Just one drop of this POKéMON’s body fluid can turn a pool stagnant and rancid.” (Ruby).

    “A toxic fluid seeps from its body. The fluid instantly kills plants and trees on contact.” (Black&White).
    /
    /
    Legendary
    Arceus created the universe
    “It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms.” (Diamond)

    “It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.” (Pearl).
    /
    Rayquaza destroys a shooting star that would destroy the planet and created large shockwaves.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfZSi18GdO0#t=102
    Rayquaza and the (thanks to Gengar) main-player+partner survive the explosion.
    /
    Palkia and his powers
    “It is said to live in a gap in the spatial dimension parallel to ours. It appears in mythology.” (Pearl).

    “It has the ability to distort space. It is described as a deity in Sinnoh-region mythology.” (Diamond).

    “Its total control over the boundaries of space enable it to transport itself to faraway places or even other dimensions.” (Heart Gold)
    /
    Dialga
    “It has the power to control time. It appears in Sinnoh-region myths as an ancient deity.” (Diamond).

    “A Pokémon spoken of in legend. It is said that time began moving when DIALGA was born.” (Pearl).

    “This Pokémon completely controls the flow of time. It uses its power to travel at will through the past and future.” (Heart gold).
    /
    Lugia
    “It sleeps in a deep-sea trench. If it flaps its wings, it is said to cause a 40-day storm.” (Black&White)

  17. Alpha or Omega July 22, 2014 at 3:19 pm -      #17

    Regigigas
    “There is an enduring legend that states this Pokémon towed continents with ropes.” (Diamond&Pearl and X&Y).
    /
    Yveltal
    “When this legendary Pokémon’s wings and tail feathers spread wide and glow red, it absorbs the life force of living creatures.” (X)

    “When its life comes to an end, it absorbs the life energy of every living thing and turns into a cocoon once more.” (Y)
    /
    Reshiram
    “This legendary Pokémon can scorch the world with fire. It helps those who want to build a world of truth.” (X)

    “When Reshiram’s tail flares, the heat energy moves the atmosphere and changes the world’s weather.” (Y)

  18. Sauroposeidon July 22, 2014 at 3:24 pm -      #18

    Fun facts about Rhyperior.

    Can withstand Volcanic eruptions

    Can launch rocks like missiles from its palms

    Can survive in magma

    Horn can shatter diamond

    Can topple buildings with its tail

    Is unharmed by cannon fire

    Can bring down tall buildings by ramming through them with its horn

    Bones are at least 1,000 times harder than a human being’s

    Can shatter a sky scraper with a charging tackle

    So, basically, there’s no known manmade thing that can stop a Rhyperior’s attacks. It’s capable of surviving megaton level attacks. If you threw one at a Bolo or Titan it’d win.

    They’re not even Legendary pokemon.

    These are all taken from Pokedex entries involving either Rhyhorn, Rhydon, or Rhyperior.

  19. OberHerr July 22, 2014 at 3:59 pm -      #19

    O_o

    How the hell did humanity manage to survive in the Pokemon world?

    Not too relevant, but I do like the theory that there is a lack of adults in Pokemon due to a war being waged somewhere far away. The kids are encouraged to learn to train and fight with Pokemon so one day when they are old enough, they can go fight it. It applied more back in the day, due to Professor Oak and the Cops/Nurses being the ONLY people of adult age….but still. Kinda a cool idea.

  20. Sauroposeidon July 22, 2014 at 4:40 pm -      #20

    “How the hell did humanity manage to survive in the Pokemon world?”

    Barely

    “Not too relevant, but I do like the theory that there is a lack of adults in Pokemon due to a war being waged somewhere far away. The kids are encouraged to learn to train and fight with Pokemon so one day when they are old enough, they can go fight it. It applied more back in the day, due to Professor Oak and the Cops/Nurses being the ONLY people of adult age….but still. Kinda a cool idea.”

    The most recent game touches on the concept of war and war involving pokemon. It also deals with genocide and weapons which are powered by having pokemon slaved to them and dying to give up their power to said weaponry. Between weapons of mass destruction and genocide it’s oddly dark for a game meant for 8 year olds.. but I enjoyed it.

  21. jackn8r July 22, 2014 at 4:52 pm -      #21

    “Anime is non-canon to the main canon like Enigma-J and Envoy said due to the fact that it contradicts the main canon.”

    Well that’s not true. It’s just separate canon like YGO!’s manga and anime are separate and tend to tell different stories.

    Arceus created the universe
    It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms.” (Diamond)”


    “It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.”

    “Rayquaza destroys a shooting star that would destroy the planet and created large shockwaves.”

    That will come in handy considering the Vong throw moons around, but it doesn’t seem like he can casually do it.

    Palkia and his powers
    It is said to live in a gap in the spatial dimension parallel to ours. It appears in mythology.”


    “A Pokémon spoken of in legend. It is said that time began moving when DIALGA was born.” (Pearl).

    Lugia
    “It sleeps in a deep-sea trench. If it flaps its wings, it is said to cause a 40-day storm.”


    “There is an enduring legend that states this Pokémon towed continents with ropes.”
    Some amazingly strong ropes.

    Fluff pokedex mythology doesn’t constitute feats.

  22. Ranger Lowk July 22, 2014 at 4:58 pm -      #22

    “How the hell did humanity manage to survive in the Pokemon world?”

    Because Pokemon are strangely susceptible to a special type of “Friendship” known as Stockholm Syndrome.

  23. Alpha or Omega July 22, 2014 at 5:06 pm -      #23

    “Well that’s not true. It’s just separate canon like YGO!’s manga and anime are separate and tend to tell different stories.”
    /
    That’s basically what I said.
    Alternate canon is non-canon to main canon.
    /
    “That will come in handy considering the Vong throw moons around, but it doesn’t seem like he can casually do it.”
    /
    It doesn’t take very long. Not casual, but not mundane.
    /
    “Fluff pokedex mythology doesn’t constitute feats.”
    /
    Actually, it does since it explains how the Pokemon universe was created and how it came to be. I don’t see how lore wouldn’t count as feats.

  24. Masonicon July 22, 2014 at 5:12 pm -      #24

    How about Superpowered Humans like Psychics or Spirit Channelers?

    speaking of Power Levels, Human Characters in Pokemon Anime is above Pokemon Game, but below Pokemon Special(at first), but as the Anime goes on, the existence of Superpowered Humans(doesn’t always need to be Superpowered in Comic Book sense of the term) in Pokemon Anime are increasingly downplayed often to the verge of non-existence, as this flanderizes Ash into textbook Anti-sue(this is also the reason any of Ash’s Positive traits like Aura Superpowers that he got in 8th movie never brought up)

  25. Albert W Wesker July 22, 2014 at 5:19 pm -      #25

    Knowing Pokemon and I’m not a fan I hate Pokemon for god sake I think if the Yuuzhan Vong would invade so there be a war but in the ned the Yuuzhan Vong I would not be able to win due to the abilities of Pokemon so no Pokemon would fight back . I hate my results but it’s fact on my behalf and sorry about my misspelling I can’t help it I’m blind and sorry .

  26. Rorschach July 22, 2014 at 5:28 pm -      #26

    “Actually, it does since it explains how the Pokemon universe was created and how it came to be. I don’t see how lore wouldn’t count as feats.”
    I recently got into a similar debate with my brother over this topic.
    In game, no one was there to witness the Pokemon mythos.
    Professor Oak, was he there? Did he see these Pokemon do these things? As far as he’s concerned, Mew is the first pokemon, and has all DNA of every pokemon.
    This isn’t exactly a debate on Pokemon.

    For the match, it may be too late before the “Pokegods” are able to do anything.
    By the time they step in, the Vong may have already become too well established in the Pokeverse. Which, again, described earlier, is largely just Earth.

  27. jackn8r July 22, 2014 at 5:29 pm -      #27

    “That’s basically what I said.
    Alternate canon is non-canon to main canon.”

    Yeah but “main canon” is just a label fans put on the games. There’s nothing putting games above anime or manga AFAIK.

    “Actually, it does since it explains how the Pokemon universe was created and how it came to be.”

    But it the context of in-canon mythology.

    “I don’t see how lore wouldn’t count as feats.”

    Every time it uses the words “it is said” it means just that. It’s part of a mythology within lore not necessarily the factual lore itself.


    “sorry about my misspelling I can’t help it I’m blind and sorry”

    Are you actually blind?

  28. Alpha or Omega July 22, 2014 at 5:35 pm -      #28

    “I recently got into a similar debate with my brother over this topic.
    In game, no one was there to witness the Pokemon mythos.
    Professor Oak, was he there? Did he see these Pokemon do these things? As far as he’s concerned, Mew is the first pokemon, and has all DNA of every pokemon.
    This isn’t exactly a debate on Pokemon.”
    /
    Ancestor=/=Creator.
    Mew may be the ancestor, but it certainly didn’t exist before the beginning of the universe nor did it create it.
    I also want to point out that scientists can’t measure the supernatural nor did they exist during it’s creation.
    /
    “For the match, it may be too late before the “Pokegods” are able to do anything.
    By the time they step in, the Vong may have already become too well established in the Pokeverse. Which, again, described earlier, is largely just Earth.”
    /
    Except this isn’t a match and this is a what if.
    Therefore, Dialga can just go back in time and just tell Arceus to create the universe differently and have one where the vong can’t survive in.

  29. Alpha or Omega July 22, 2014 at 5:46 pm -      #29

    “Yeah but “main canon” is just a label fans put on the games. There’s nothing putting games above anime or manga AFAIK.”
    /
    Well then, which one are they invading?
    /
    “But it the context of in-canon mythology.”
    /
    In-canon mythology doesn’t always equate to “it’s fake.”
    Mythology is sometimes explained as the creation of the world and is broad in it’s term.
    /
    “Every time it uses the words “it is said” it means just that. It’s part of a mythology within lore not necessarily the factual lore itself.”
    /
    Except mythology doesn’t always equate to it’s fake. If Pokemon is okay using mythology in their Pokedexes, I don’t see the harm of using it themselves since the Pokedex acknowledges it.

  30. jackn8r July 22, 2014 at 5:56 pm -      #30

    I’m not disputing that Pokemon win here, but where is there anything in Game Canon stating Arceus can create universes and Dialga can go back in time to before the universe was created other than in legend?

  31. Rorschach July 22, 2014 at 5:59 pm -      #31

    “I also want to point out that scientists can’t measure the supernatural nor did they exist during it’s creation.”
    Yes, but should we take their word for something that may have happened differently? Who passed down the legends of the pokemon doing everything they supposedly did, anyway?

    “Except this isn’t a match and this is a what if.
    Therefore, Dialga can just go back in time and just tell Arceus to create the universe differently and have one where the vong can’t survive in.”
    Didn’t think of that. Can Dialga do that? Didn’t Arceus create the universe first, then Time and Space/Dialga and Palkia?

    “In-canon mythology doesn’t always equate to “it’s fake.”
    Mythology is sometimes explained as the creation of the world and is broad in it’s term.”
    As far as my concern goes, I’m not saying the mythology is fake, I’m more concerned over whether it happened exactly the way the humans in Pokemon describe it.
    “If Pokemon is okay using mythology in their Pokedexes, I don’t see the harm of using it themselves since the Pokedex acknowledges it.”
    If the Pokedex acknowledges it, does that make it true, in the context that it happened the way “It is said” and the like?

  32. Ranger Lowk July 22, 2014 at 6:04 pm -      #32

    Couldn’t Vong use pokemon themselves? I mean they haven’t all gathered together to stop the bad guys before right?
    How often do the big guns normally get involved in worldly affairs? Would most other pokemon even care if there overlords where replaced by other overlords?

  33. jackn8r July 22, 2014 at 6:04 pm -      #33

    Where is there anything in Game Canon stating Arceus can create universes and Dialga can go back in time to before the universe was created other than in legend?

    “Well then, which one are they invading?”

    I was wondering the same thing. Is it reasonable to say that Game and Manga take Vong rather easily but Vong can handle Anime-verse (bad Pokemon feats and huge CIS)?

    “In-canon mythology doesn’t always equate to “it’s fake.”
    Mythology is sometimes explained as the creation of the world and is broad in it’s term.”

    Fair point. Wouldn’t you think though that for being such a big part of the Pokemon story-line that the same would be found elsewhere in canon? Like the Pokedex entry of Dialga existing before the universe. I haven’t seen mention of that anywhere else.

    “If Pokemon is okay using mythology in their Pokedexes, I don’t see the harm of using it themselves since the Pokedex acknowledges it.”

    The reason the Pokedex uses mythology is because it’s describing legendaries who are rare and little is known about in the Poke-verse. There’s canon reason for that.

  34. Alpha or Omega July 22, 2014 at 6:05 pm -      #34

    I don’t see anything wrong with using myths. Nevermind that myths are used in Pokedexes pretty casually. Also, since the myth says that Arceus created the universe, the myth falls under the definition of ‘tells a story of the creation of the world’ than ‘it’s fake.’
    /
    Edit:How did you guys put your posts before Jackn8tr?
    Was it moderated or something?

  35. Rorschach July 22, 2014 at 6:15 pm -      #35

    “How often do the big guns normally get involved in worldly affairs?”
    Rarely, as far as the games are concerned. Most times, they’re actually asleep, or off in some cave somewhere.
    Usually it takes human intervention to cause anything to happen regarding the legendaries, namely the various Teams in all the regions.
    I’ll use Gen 3, Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald as an example.
    Team Aqua and Magma bring these two orbs to the resting places of Groudon and Kyogre, which wakes them up.
    They have a massive stand off which involves messing with the weather throughout the Hoenn region, and probably even the world.
    Only then does Rayquaza wake up, come to stop them, and they all go back to where they were before.
    The legendaries, if they’re not asleep, are usually not interested in world affairs. If they are involved, it’s generally based by which legendaries are there in the region.
    “Would most other pokemon even care if there overlords where replaced by other overlords?”
    Well, they would notice, and most likely care, they all share a bond of sorts. How much they would do, however, is up to them.

  36. Alpha or Omega July 22, 2014 at 6:26 pm -      #36

    @Rorschach
    “Yes, but should we take their word for something that may have happened differently?”
    /
    There’s no other word for it.
    Never mind that it repeatedly states that over and over again.
    /
    “Who passed down the legends of the pokemon doing everything they supposedly did, anyway?”
    /
    That part wasn’t explained. We don’t know if it was some writings, passed down orally, or historians finding some relic or something.
    The only thing X&Y explained was that some guy become biologically immortal after a war and then became a box car hobo.
    /
    “Didn’t think of that. Can Dialga do that? Didn’t Arceus create the universe first, then Time and Space/Dialga and Palkia?”
    /
    HeartGold says Dialga can freely do that.
    “This Pokémon completely controls the flow of time. It uses its power to travel at will through the past and future.” (Heart Gold).
    /
    It should be able to talk to Arceus at least to reshape the universe. Arceus never created time. Dialga did.
    “A Pokémon spoken of in legend. It is said that time began moving when Dialga was born.” (Dialga).
    /
    “As far as my concern goes, I’m not saying the mythology is fake, I’m more concerned over whether it happened exactly the way the humans in Pokemon describe it.”
    /
    We don’t know.
    /
    “If the Pokedex acknowledges it, does that make it true, in the context that it happened the way “It is said” and the like?”
    /
    Well, I’m not sure about that part. It does repeatedly bash our heads with the same words.
    /
    @Lowk
    “Couldn’t Vong use pokemon themselves? I mean they haven’t all gathered together to stop the bad guys before right?”
    /
    Assuming they don’t invade. In mystery dungeon, Pokemon united together to stop someone from destroying the planet. But if they are just overthrowing the humans, I have absolutely no clue what they will do.
    /
    “How often do the big guns normally get involved in worldly affairs? Would most other pokemon even care if there overlords where replaced by other overlords?”
    /
    The big guns either get revived or awakened by a person to do that person’s bidding.
    The big guns don’t care.
    /
    @Jackn8r
    “Fair point. Wouldn’t you think though that for being such a big part of the Pokemon story-line that the same would be found elsewhere in canon? Like the Pokedex entry of Dialga existing before the universe. I haven’t seen mention of that anywhere else.”
    /
    Well, when I said to go back in time to talk to Arceus, I meant during the creation, not before the universe existed.
    /
    “The reason the Pokedex uses mythology is because it’s describing legendaries who are rare and little is known about in the Poke-verse. There’s canon reason for that.”
    /
    I know that, and it seems to be fine with using it casually. There’s nothing else to it. Scientists didn’t exist before the universe was created after all.

  37. Ranger Lowk July 22, 2014 at 6:45 pm -      #37

    “The big guns either get revived or awakened by a person to do that person’s bidding.
    The big guns don’t care.”

    So are the legendary guys basically the gods and old ones of the pokeverse?

  38. Alpha or Omega July 22, 2014 at 6:50 pm -      #38

    “So are the legendary guys basically the gods and old ones of the pokeverse?”
    /
    With the exception of one(maybe two), yes.

  39. Ranger Lowk July 22, 2014 at 7:23 pm -      #39

    So at any time some douchebag with too much time and money could awaken a poke god and pretty much end humanity as they know it… That sounds like the backdrop to a series where human are on the losing war with monsters or hunting them down out of fear in a reversed situation.
    Compared to other fictions pokemon’s monsters and humanity are alarmingly tolerant of each other considering one side is actively abducting the others friends and family.

  40. Albert W Wesker July 22, 2014 at 7:31 pm -      #40

    I hate Pokemon yet I know a lot about them . I don’t know quiet Bit about the other guys but all I do know is they defeated the new republic and took over the most defended planet in the Star Wars universe and that’s all I know . I know that if you unleash the god Pokemon like dialga and palkia no one will win because it will destroy the universe .

  41. Alpha or Omega July 22, 2014 at 7:35 pm -      #41

    @Lowk
    Well, you, the player, do awaken another one or see another one stop another. Either that, or the Pokemon resists the controlling device to a point and tell you to beat them up to the point where the Pokemon control stops.
    /
    @Albert
    “I know that if you unleash the god Pokemon like dialga and palkia no one will win because it will destroy the universe .”
    /
    It’s more like reshape and it’s only Arceus and maybe Giratina.

  42. Alpha or Omega July 22, 2014 at 7:37 pm -      #42

    “I know that if you unleash the god Pokemon like dialga and palkia no one will win because it will destroy the universe .”
    /
    It’s more like reshape and it’s only Arceus and maybe Giratina.

  43. Hermit July 22, 2014 at 7:37 pm -      #43

    I’ll agree that most of the legendary Pokemon are more or less indifferent to the happenings of the world, but like A or O said, there are some that are active.
    .
    Mewtwo, Deoxys, and the other ‘Mon that were man-made come to mind. Deoxys isn’t man-made I know, but he isn’t just sleeping it off in a cave either.
    .
    “It sleeps in a deep-sea trench. If it flaps its wings, it is said to cause a 40-day storm.”
    .
    Nice Noah’s Flood reference, or is it another storm that description is taken from?

  44. Albert W Wesker July 22, 2014 at 8:03 pm -      #44

    @Jackn8r
    Yes I am blind I hav very low vision wich qualifies me as being bond to be called leagily blind your must have vision worse the 20/200 wich mean you can only see 20 meters of 200 matters so yes I am blind but yet it dosent stope me from doing many things . I am quiet intelligent for a 14 year old and I admire those who fight for there belief but yet there are times when no matter how mcih yo try u can’t win

  45. Rorschach July 22, 2014 at 8:46 pm -      #45

    @Alpha or Omega
    Thank you for explaining it. I see your point. Whether they happened in the exact way they did or not, the mythologies are the only source of information on the topic.

    Regarding the what if, the mythologies in mind, the Vong may be able to take action well before the pokegods take notice.
    Even though Mewtwo and Deoxys aren’t exactly pokegods, they are also bound by region. Yes, they can fly, but are more active in their own regions, as are the other legendaries.

  46. jackn8r July 22, 2014 at 9:34 pm -      #46

    “It’s more like reshape and it’s only Arceus and maybe Giratina.”

    Actually, I think Albert may be right.
    media.animevice.com/uploads/3/34917/631544-creating_a_universe_1.png
    media.animevice.com/uploads/0/7669/633702-vlcsnap2010110721h05m39.png

    @Albert
    That’s amazing that you’re attempting to read the entire Star Wars vs Halo thread; that thing is over 20 pages. You probably don’t have to though, you should be all caught up with the current state of things just reading the most recent few pages if you really want to.

  47. Albert W Wesker July 22, 2014 at 9:42 pm -      #47

    @Jackn8r
    Nah I want to read it I love reading debates I may be ine to this site and I love to read .
    Actually, I think Albert may be right
    Yup those two will fight at each other and once the fight is over the entire universe will be finished . Also not to add the fact that some legendary Pokemon if awaken will latterly destroy the planet . I don’t remember it’s name but it’s a whale Pokemon that is huge and if awaken it will flood the world and it will fight it’s enemy so using god like Pokemon will not end with the result you intended .

  48. Darkra July 22, 2014 at 11:35 pm -      #48

    Ditto used transform

    ???

    Profit /s
    =
    I really have nothing else to contribute since pokedex entries are always debated and joked about.

  49. MrRyder July 23, 2014 at 12:42 am -      #49

    @Albert

    You’re talking about Kyogre, a Pokemon that created all of the oceans in the Pokemon world.

  50. Ryushi July 23, 2014 at 2:20 am -      #50

    “Does anyone think a Digimon universe VS Pokemon universe might be interesting?”

    I didn’t take part in this particular debate, but I’m pretty sure this happened already…?

    The rest of it? Probably the Vong wouldn’t be able to capture one of the God Pokemon. They can do some crazy shit, but I thought capturing things wasn’t something they usually did (correct me if I’m wrong).

    Any impact the Vong’d have? Honestly, I don’t have a clue, I don’t have that much info on them, other than they’ve literally obliterated over 300 trillion sentient beings; and that was during their initial invasion. That’s not a bad resume if you ask me. “were responsible for the deaths of nearly 365 trillion sentient beings during their invasion of the galaxy. ”
    Source – starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yuuzhan_Vong

    Honestly, the rest I couldn’t guess.

  51. Xornell July 23, 2014 at 5:09 am -      #51

    Aren’t those pokedex facts bullshit? You know, based on the fact that everyone isn’t dead in the Pokemon universe?

  52. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets July 23, 2014 at 5:16 am -      #52

    “Aren’t those pokedex facts bullshit? You know, based on the fact that everyone isn’t dead in the Pokemon universe?”

    Well, they are canon. Kinda like discussing that one SW thing(something about 200 gigatons or the likes in firepower?)that always ends up with everyone arguing over it and just ending in everyone giving up on the debate.

  53. Parry Boy July 23, 2014 at 6:11 am -      #53

    In the anime, it doesn’t appear to be canon.

  54. Sauroposeidon July 23, 2014 at 7:25 am -      #54

    “Aren’t those pokedex facts bullshit? You know, based on the fact that everyone isn’t dead in the Pokemon universe?”

    I think I stated earlier how the subject of mass death is touched on in the last game. They, being Team Flare, intended to kill every person on the planet with one of the Legendaries in X/Y. It’s basically like comic book land. Ridiculous levels of OPness running around that somehow a handful of heroes manage to keep in check. They’re not bullshit, just somewhat illogical since the setting was created with children in mind. We just all kept playing it as we grew up. It’s like Mario, we ignore the bizarreness of their reality because it’s all meant to be fun.

  55. EnigmaJ July 23, 2014 at 10:33 am -      #55

    @jackn8r

    “Fair point. Wouldn’t you think though that for being such a big part of the Pokemon story-line that the same would be found elsewhere in canon? Like the Pokedex entry of Dialga existing before the universe. I haven’t seen mention of that anywhere else.”

    In Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, there are small bits of evidence everywhere that lend credence to the notion that the Pokedex entries regarding Dialga/Palkia/Arceus are valid. Most of them are myths as well, but you come across them while playing the game. These are some examples:

    This is found in a book in Canalave’s Library.

    “In the beginning, there was only
    a churning turmoil of chaos.
    At the heart of chaos, where all
    things became one, appeared an Egg.
    Having tumbled from the vortex, the
    Egg gave rise to the Original One.
    From itself, two beings the Original
    One did make.
    Time started to spin.
    Space began to expand.
    From itself again, three living things
    the Original One did make.
    The two beings wished, and from them,
    matter came to be.
    The three living things wished, and
    from them, spirit came to be.
    The world created, the Original One
    took to unyielding sleep…”

    Cynthia tells you this in regards to an ancient cave painting:

    “This cave painting… It’s always been described this way.
    The light in the center represents either Dialga or Palkia appearing at the Spear Pillar.
    The three lights around it were thought to be Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf.
    But, then, I realized that there may be another way of interpreting this.
    Could this triangle of lights actually represent a different trio?
    Could they be Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina instead?
    And the large light in the center. Does it represent something else?
    Could it be what created this world of ours?
    Do you know of the ancient Plates they find all over Sinnoh?
    One of them had this engraved on it.
    “Two beings of time and space set free from the Original One.”
    I think this quote, too, points to the presence of another Pokémon.
    A Pokémon even more powerful than Dialga or Palkia.
    Does that sound plausible to you?
    I’m not quite sure how Giratina fits into this scheme of things, but…
    It’s said that in the Distortion World, neither time nor space were stable.
    I think that tells us something about Giratina, the only Pokémon there.
    It must have been as powerful as Dialga and Palkia, the rulers of time and space.
    In some way, though, Giratina has to have a power opposite of theirs.
    A long time ago, I wonder what sort of person painted this?
    Dialga’s Roar of Time… Palkia’s Spacial Rend…
    To the people back then, those Pokémon really must have appeared to rule over time and space.
    Seeing them must have shaken the people to their very core.
    This painting represents those feelings of awe, wonder, and everything else.
    It passed that memory to countless people, eventually becoming a myth…
    That’s what I believe as a researcher of myths.
    I think I let myself get carried away and talked for far too long.
    I’m sorry, and thank you. Let’s meet again.”

    These snippets can be found engraved on the mysterious stone plates that can be found all throughout the game, which can be used by Arceus to change its typing.

    “The Original One breathed alone before the universe came.”
    “When the universe was created, its shards became this Plate.”
    “The power of defeated giants infuses this Plate.”
    “Two beings of time and space set free from the Original One.”
    “Three beings were born to bind time and space.”
    “Two make matter, and three make spirit, shaping the world.”
    “The powers of Plates are shared among Pokémon.”
    “The rightful bearer of a Plate draws from the Plate it holds.”

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    Furthermore, the entire plot of Diamond/Pearl/Platinum revolves around Cyrus attempting to use Dialga and/or Palkia to create a new “world”. Here are some of the more notable things he says before and after he summons Dialga/Palkia in the games and you defeat him.

    “Now all will end. And everything will begin. With this Red Chain I will pry open the portal to another dimension. I command that you unleash all your power for me… Dialga/Palkia the mythical Pokémon and the master of time/space! This will bring about the destruction of all things. With everything gone, there will be no fighting and no strife. Can you feel time/space distorting? Only I can choose to stop it. This is the mythical Pokémon that created Sinnoh! Dialga/Palkia the ancient deity of time/space! This world cannot be molded into the ultimate world I seek! It’s far easier to create an entirely new world than to change this one! A new world in which I am the ruler of all things! I shall become a deity!”

    “Oh! Dialga/Palkia… This is… Fantastic! Beautiful! It’s the creating of a new galaxy! My new world! … Wh-what?!”

    “The Red Chain! It crumbled away to nothing?! But why? Why would Mesprit, the Pokémon of Lake Verity, appear by your side? But never mind that! It’s all destroyed! My galaxy is gone! I won’t allow this… I will capture those three again and craft another Red Chain! But before I even think about that, I’m going to completely crush you!”

    In Platinum, instead he says:

    “I’ve waited so long for this moment, Dialga and Palkia. Shaping this world is a double spiral of time and space. Yes, the very things that you have the ability to control! You will do my bidding! I will have your abilities as mine! With the power I wield, I will create an entirely new world! The incomplete and ugly world we have now can disappear. I am resetting everything to zero. Nothing can remain. It is all for making the ultimate world. A world of complete perfection. Nothing so vague and incomplete as spirit can remain.”

    “I won’t accept this! This can’t be! Not after all the sacrifices we’ve made to get this far! What of my new world?! Of my new galaxy?! Was this all a dream to be swept away by your reality?!”

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    And finally, another scene I find interesting comes from the HeartGold/SoulSilver games. It’s an event where you end up coming face to face with Arceus and he creates a Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina for you right before your eyes.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxC1kXm_AVs#t=300

    It starts at 5 minutes ( Cynthia says some stuff before that point but it’s more of the same ). Watch up to around the 7 minute mark.

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    I don’t know if you knew all of this already or if this is even the type of evidence you were looking for, but there you go.

  56. Albert W Wesker July 23, 2014 at 12:29 pm -      #56

    @MrRyder
    Thank u for that bit if info been years since seen the anime a and months since I read the manga .

  57. Tarbel July 25, 2014 at 12:59 am -      #57

    Well I just started reading the Pocket Monster Special manga and a bunch of pikachus can create lightning storms and gyarados can destroy a city if angered. I’m not surprised if the vong have a difficult time especially when those are only two Pokemon out of hundreds of types and I assume millions of then.

  58. Rhododendron July 30, 2014 at 11:23 pm -      #58

    Well aren’t humans technically pokemon in the pokeverse anyway?
    1.)yamask is pretty much an evolution
    2.)physic trainers actually having powers.
    etc etc.

  59. ItsDaKoolaidDude August 2, 2014 at 7:48 pm -      #59

    Why are we even trying to touch and pit anything against SW? To me so far, its been shown and proven that everything in SW is op enough to kill, curbstomp, goonstomp, rape and every manner of overkill just everything we even try to throw at… I’ve even YET to see anything that would even barely defeat anything in SW… So really, why try?

  60. Ranger Lowk August 2, 2014 at 7:56 pm -      #60

    I can’t tell, is ItsDaKoolaidDude just joking or mocking SW fans?
    EDIT: inb4 everyone starts listing their favorite fictional universes that can beat SW.

  61. ItsDaKoolaidDude August 2, 2014 at 7:59 pm -      #61

    Actually, I’m pretty serious Lowk, and if I was mocking SW fans, I’d be trying to do a better job at it.
    EDIT: inb4 hate-mail starts

  62. Ranger Lowk August 2, 2014 at 8:15 pm -      #62

    “Actually, I’m pretty serious Lowk, and if I was mocking SW fans, I’d be trying to do a better job at it.”

    Well Star wars is a pretty advanced sci-fiction but even most of their factions(including EU) don’t really stand up to some of the DC or Marvel comic universes. Or some of the ridiculous anime universes.
    ===
    “EDIT: inb4 hate-mail starts”

    Nah, I don’t think we do hate-mail… Though this is the internet so no promises.

  63. Alpha or Omega August 3, 2014 at 2:59 am -      #63

    Really?
    You didn’t read this what if that if The Vong tried to full out exterminate everything in Pokemon, they would be annihilated by the Pokegods?
    They can take over the humans, but that’s about it.

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