Raiden Vs Tyranid Swarmlord

Raiden Vs Tyranid Swarmlord

Suggested by DragonRebornLotM

For this fight we have Raiden from the Metal Gear franchise facing off against a Tyranid Swarmlord from Warhammer 40K.

The battle ground is Jurassic Park.

Who wins?

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238 Comments on "Raiden Vs Tyranid Swarmlord"

  1. Ragnorke July 10, 2014 at 3:37 pm -      #201

    My point was never that the “lasers” are slow, but that we have absolutely no idea what they are, and thus have no speed to compare them to. Bullets however are comparable to real life speeds.

    Another thing is that pit and samus dodging the lasers, that is the definition of aim dodging / predicting the attack. Not nano second reaction times or gameplay mechanics.
    Pit clearly getting HIT and taking no damage, that’s a game mechanic.
    Raiden doesn’t get hit, he deflects the bullets with his sword. So not the same scenario.

  2. Alpha or Omega July 10, 2014 at 4:17 pm -      #202

    “Another thing is that pit and samus dodging the lasers, that is the definition of aim dodging / predicting the attack. Not nano second reaction times or gameplay mechanics.”
    /
    Except Samus and Pit are dodging when the attacks come within reach just like Raiden blocking when the attacks come within reach. Even if it’s at point blank.
    Game mechanics.
    /
    “Pit clearly getting HIT and taking no damage, that’s a game mechanic.
    Raiden doesn’t get hit, he deflects the bullets with his sword. So not the same scenario.”
    /
    Except Pit doesn’t get hit all the time while in the dodge animation.
    Raiden may not get hit from greater distances, but he should get hit at point blank, which game mechanics makes him block.
    Not that it matters since grabs or unblockable melee attacks show that ninja run/blocking can’t deflect either of those.

  3. Laharl July 10, 2014 at 8:34 pm -      #203

    “Furthermore, if Raiden was shown to be super sonic there, he should have beaten Sam in the first fight.” *shakes head* Not even considering Sam is of near equal caliber are you or that was a weaker cyborg body.
    herp der not super sonic because he fought someone. Oh yea he sure is normal don’t you think.
    Slices metal gears in half with magic doesn’t he.

  4. Laharl July 10, 2014 at 8:47 pm -      #204

    “Sam is vastly superior to bullets, and that New Raiden is superior to Sam.”
    That’s right.
    “Raiden is getting overblown and wanked here.”
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLL3MVki46U
    2:38-2:49
    That point blank enough for you?
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-blank_range
    Guess what, it is.
    So I’d suggest to stop talking about things you clearly don’t know a thing about.

  5. Laharl July 10, 2014 at 8:54 pm -      #205

    “raiden is supersonic”
    *Game shows Sam cutting bullets point blank in cutscene 2 minutes in.*
    *Game shows Raiden can do the same early on through Gameplay that is more than just gameplay.*
    *Game shows Raiden jumping on supersonic missiles easily before sam fight*
    “Nuh he isn’t blub blub blub”
    This kind of shit ruined this site.

  6. Alpha or Omega July 10, 2014 at 9:22 pm -      #206

    “Not even considering Sam is of near equal caliber are you or that was a weaker cyborg body.
    herp der not super sonic because he fought someone. Oh yea he sure is normal don’t you think.”
    /
    Except if Raiden had super sonic movement in his old body, he would have beaten Sam regardless.
    Fighting isn’t a feat. I have no idea where you got it.
    /
    “Slices metal gears in half with magic doesn’t he.”
    /
    With science!
    Sam cuts through Metal Gears because his blades cut through atoms.
    /
    “That’s right.”
    /
    Nope.avi
    /
    “That point blank enough for you?
    Guess what, it is.
    So I’d suggest to stop talking about things you clearly don’t know a thing about.”
    /
    *Facepalm*
    I used that same video and are you blind? You post that wiki link that says within one meter and when Ragnorke mentioned point blank range, I posted that point blank range is within a meter.
    Anyway, before he reaches point blank range, we can clearly see him rise his sword above his head and then do a downward swing. No deflecting at point blank range involved. Sure, he was deflecting in the air, but that wasn’t point blank yet. And, when he reached the point blank range, he did a slice on the gunner instead of deflecting.
    /
    “raiden is supersonic”
    *Game shows Sam cutting bullets point blank in cutscene 2 minutes in.*
    *Game shows Raiden can do the same early on through Gameplay that is more than just gameplay.*
    *Game shows Raiden jumping on supersonic missiles easily before sam fight*
    “Nuh he isn’t blub blub blub”
    /
    Resorting to insults and leaving out arguments that are against you. Typical. Thought you would change.
    /
    “This kind of shit ruined this site”
    /
    “WAAAAH! WAAAHHHHH! WAHAHAHA, Cry Some Moar!…..Heh, cry some moar.”-Heavy.

  7. creyzi4j July 11, 2014 at 3:11 am -      #207

    @ Looks like a Termagant….
    Termagant’s don’t have tentacles on their face.
    But it does look like a Lictor to me.
    wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/2/27/LictorArt.jpg/426px-LictorArt.jpg

  8. creyzi4j July 11, 2014 at 3:23 am -      #208

    Here’s more pics of it..
    Yep…it does look more like a lictor…
    tinypic.com/r/10s6pmc/8

    Average Termagant size is 1.3 meters (smaller than Kobe Bryant)
    Termagant’s aren’t this big (about 2.5 meters big/bigger than your ordinary human)

    oi57.tinypic.com/xkqe7a.jpg
    -

  9. tyrannicuslictorface July 11, 2014 at 3:44 am -      #209

    What? We still have people treating game mechanics as fact?

    Whats next?

    Healthbars?

  10. Ragnorke July 11, 2014 at 5:11 am -      #210

    @tryrannicus
    You realise not everything in a game is a game mechanics right? You need to prove it contradicts the lore.
    Your last comment just made you appear stupid tbh.

  11. Parry Boy July 11, 2014 at 7:27 am -      #211

    By his logic it would mean that every TV show has mega toonforce so they trump everyone

  12. Neon Lord July 11, 2014 at 8:24 am -      #212

    That’s a Lictor. And that comic is far too old to be reliale.

  13. Malenfant July 11, 2014 at 5:58 pm -      #213

    “Uh, I was probably one of the first guys here to introduce Raiden’s feats ever since Revengeance came out a year ago. It still doesn’t explain super sonic movements.”

    It’s clearly supersonic. I don’t know any good examples, but in the trailer he slices apart a helicopter into abut ten pieces before a full rotation, IIRC.

    “Then can you show how you got the super sonic speeds for it?”

    I’m not exactly sure how to post scans on the frames..

  14. Alpha or Omega July 11, 2014 at 7:30 pm -      #214

    “It’s clearly supersonic. I don’t know any good examples, but in the trailer he slices apart a helicopter into abut ten pieces before a full rotation, IIRC.”
    /
    The Helicopters MAY “approach” mach 1 in a “high speed forward flight” at the tips.
    www.vibrationdata.com/Newsletters/April2003_NL.pdf
    Page 3, Right Column, last paragraph.
    /
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZGP3b-d5g0#t=1512
    The video shows that the helicopter is not moving at a “high speed forward flight” so it’s not approaching mach 1.

  15. Malenfant July 11, 2014 at 7:45 pm -      #215

    “The video shows that the helicopter is not moving at a “high speed forward flight” so it’s not approaching mach 1.”

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKein_Mkp2Q

    Here’s a better example. His blade is visibly bending the air and moving before the noise is catching up.

  16. Alpha or Omega July 11, 2014 at 8:00 pm -      #216

    “Here’s a better example. His blade is visibly bending the air and moving before the noise is catching up.”
    /
    Bending air, but not making a shockwave.
    /
    How do you know that the noise isn’t catching up?
    Everytime he swings, we hear it.

  17. Belisaurius July 11, 2014 at 9:05 pm -      #217

    An air distortion is indicative of a strong air disturbance or imbalance. The only objects that can create a visible distortion through movement alone are high caliber bullets traveling at trans-sonic velocities.

    It’s also folly to say that there is no shockwave. The air distortion IS the shockwave. It’s merely so small that we don’t hear the snap. Similarly, we can hear super sonic bullets by the wiz of them passing by. We think of sonic booms as things created by fighter jets but fighter jets are big things. Bigger than tanks by volume (definitely not by mass) so when they create a sonic boom it’s a pretty massive sonic boom.

  18. Alpha or Omega July 11, 2014 at 10:05 pm -      #218

    “An air distortion is indicative of a strong air disturbance or imbalance. The only objects that can create a visible distortion through movement alone are high caliber bullets traveling at trans-sonic velocities.”
    /
    Except this isn’t a bullet. This is a blade. A High Frequency blade no less.
    /
    “It’s also folly to say that there is no shockwave. The air distortion IS the shockwave. It’s merely so small that we don’t hear the snap. Similarly, we can hear super sonic bullets by the wiz of them passing by.”
    /
    You’re right, but air distortion is still made at mach 0.5 at least according to this research with airfoil.
    adg.stanford.edu/aa241/drag/dragrise.html
    I’m not sure how a vibro blade affects things though.
    /
    “We think of sonic booms as things created by fighter jets but fighter jets are big things. Bigger than tanks by volume (definitely not by mass) so when they create a sonic boom it’s a pretty massive sonic boom.”
    /
    True, but Raiden clearly demonstrates a sonic boom with only one move, and that’s the thunder strike move which does say it does channel air pressure into a shockwave. We even hear the effects.

  19. OberHerr July 11, 2014 at 10:06 pm -      #219

    Heck, the snap of a whip is it breaking the sound barrier. It doesn’t have to be loud.

  20. Aelfinn July 11, 2014 at 11:33 pm -      #220

    “This kind of shit ruined this site.”

    No need to be such a Negative Nancy. We should always remain critical of feats.
    =
    I left this thread after the winner was decided, as I saw it shaping up into just a stubborn head-bashing contest. AoO dug his heels in. Normally he’s a reasonable debater, but once someone digs in…let’s just say it’s difficult to make them un-dig.

  21. Alpha or Omega July 12, 2014 at 1:34 am -      #221

    That felt like a pat on the back, and a slap to the face.

  22. OberHerr July 12, 2014 at 1:43 am -      #222

    www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=complisult

  23. TheSorrow July 12, 2014 at 2:19 am -      #223

    That felt like a pat on the back, and a slap to the face.

    Don’t feel too bad about it, I think we all have that one thing that makes us seem like the odd man out, when it comes to interpretation.

  24. Parry Boy July 12, 2014 at 3:28 am -      #224

    “It felt like a pat on a back, and a slap to the face”

    More like someone stabbing his friend on the front.

  25. tyrannicuslictorface July 14, 2014 at 11:15 pm -      #225

    @Ragnorke Yes I do realise that not “everything in a game is a game mechanics”
    ~
    You might want to check your sentence structure and grammar before calling someone an idiot tbh. Because it makes you look like someone trying to make a sandwich without bread.
    ~
    E.g. An idiot.
    ~
    Have any feats been posted that shows Raidan displaying mental or psychic resistance? Because it seems to me that that is the only discerning factor. Bullets, feats, speed be damned. If the Swarmlord is aware of Raidan, Raidan’s psyche is going to be crushed like a tincan.

  26. PositiveAnion August 30, 2014 at 10:05 pm -      #226

    Swarmlord. Piece of cake.

    Now this might be a bit biased, as I have been playing Tyranids for quite a while and am a huge fan.

    the Swarmlord is a Immortal psychic entity in a body that is the very pinnacle of evolution. he can be felled on a battlefield, but he can never die. However, I am assuming if he dies he loses, to be fair (no fun fighting undying enemies)

    now, being a strategic powerhouse, the Swarmlord, who has conquered entire galaxies, would obviously start with a preemptive strike of paroxysm. Best psychic power ever ( at least in 5th edition.) you know that jack the ripper mode thingy? Imagine not just your Raidens skin being flayed, but the feeling of every single pain receptor in his entire body firing at the same time. He would simply be incapacitated, as is any 40k enemy. In 5th edition, the Swarmlord used this to mop up any enemy.

    Now Raiden is a badass, so this would not be enough to stop him alone, but more than enough to bring him down to the Swarmlord’s level.The most perfectly evolved creature in the known universe could probably take a cyborg that is in complete agony.

    Now if someone shot 5 krak missiles at the Swarmlord… ******* Games Workshop and their hatred for the N’ids.

  27. creyzi4j October 13, 2014 at 1:17 pm -      #227

    Raiden. This match is too easy. Raiden would kill the Swarmlord before it breathes. The instant the Swarmlord’s neurons start to move, raiden would have already taken off its head,
    Fuck the wank about mind-rape. That is some seriously absurd dumb-shit claim on the 40k side right there.

    Raiden would have incarcerated the Swarmlord before it can say mind-rape.

  28. PositiveAnion October 13, 2014 at 8:03 pm -      #228

    Raiden. This match is too easy. Raiden would kill the Swarmlord before it breathes. The instant the Swarmlord’s neurons start to move, raiden would have already taken off its head,
    Fuck the wank about mind-rape. That is some seriously absurd dumb-shit claim on the 40k side right there.

    Raiden would have incarcerated the Swarmlord before it can say mind-rape.

    Your comment has no feats, and no real content. If you wish to make a point on this site, use arguments and debates, but don’t just say “this dude wins.”

  29. pimpmage October 13, 2014 at 8:19 pm -      #229

    This fuckin guy again… shows up in 40k threads and cries that 40k is being wanked without reading a word. Every fuckin time… Is this guy a retard or something?

  30. the watcher October 13, 2014 at 9:24 pm -      #230

    I believe the term is ‘troll’. I just ignore him by now. Then again, I ignore everything else until a universe that I actually know about has a match.

    Edit:
    “Raiden would have incarcerated the Swarmlord before it can say mind-rape.”

    This shouldn’t be too hard actually. The Swarmlord lacks vocal chords as we would recognize them, and as such I highly doubt it could say ‘mind rape’ even if it was given until the heat death of the universe.

  31. Guardian Dualgunner M1911A1 October 13, 2014 at 9:53 pm -      #231

    “Raiden would have incarcerated the Swarmlord before it can say mind-rape.”

    Incarcerating your foe in a death match seems sort of useless.

  32. PositiveAnion October 13, 2014 at 11:01 pm -      #232

    “Raiden would have incarcerated the Swarmlord before it can say mind-rape.”

    “incarcerated”

    I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

  33. Ragnorke October 13, 2014 at 11:15 pm -      #233

    @tyrannicuslictorface
    “You might want to check your sentence structure and grammar before calling someone an idiot tbh”

    You know you’v lost an argument when you resort to this ^

    ” Because it makes you look like someone trying to make a sandwich without bread.”

    I’m the one who’s trying to make a sandwich without bread?
    You called something a game-mechanic without ANY evidence of it actually being that.
    #Irony

    @Everyone else
    Ignore the troll, he (or i think Cross said she was a she) just goes around necro-ing old WH40k threads and hating on em.

  34. TheSorrow October 14, 2014 at 2:22 am -      #234

    creyzi4j stop trying to stay relevant. It’s really kind of sad to watch you barely put any effort into your bait comments. You’ve already shown your absurd amount of bias against WH40K, so any attempt at adding your two cents will immediately be met with incredulity. No one believes you are here to debate anymore.

  35. creyzi4j October 14, 2014 at 4:21 am -      #235

    STFU TheSorrow , it’s pretty clear that you’re a fanboy. Swarmlord my ass…more like Faillord, or better yet CopycatFaillord. GW can’t even think of any original ideas.
    Obvious copy from that Ultralord unit in Starcraft.

    @ I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
    = Nigga, I bet you don’t even know what slave means.

  36. Guardian Dualgunner M1911A1 October 14, 2014 at 4:27 am -      #236

    STFU TheSorrow , it’s pretty clear that you’re a fanboy. Swarmlord my ass…more like Faillord.

    @ I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
    = Nigga, I bet you don’t even know what slave means.”
    Pfffffft hahahahahahaha XD Holy shit, I thought entertainment like this was dead! Look out Sorrow, this guy is a total badass.

    “Obvious copy from that Ultralord unit in Starcraft”
    img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080714180146/jimmyneutron/images/9/90/Ultralord.jpg

  37. Neon Lord October 14, 2014 at 4:33 am -      #237

    1. There is no such thing as an ‘Ultralord’ in Starcraft.
    2. The Ultralisk was ripped off 40k’s Carnifex. Not the other way round.

  38. Guardian Dualgunner M1911A1 October 14, 2014 at 4:35 am -      #238

    “1. There is no such thing as an ‘Ultralord’ in Starcraft.”
    Obviously you missed the greatest Starcraft unit ever: www.youtube.com/watch?v=THAluX7xttk

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