Korra, Pandora & Gwen Vs Qibly, Soma & Lina

Korra, Pandora & Gwen Vs Qibly, Soma & Lina

Suggested by Lowk

For this group combat fight we have Korra from The Legend of Korra, Pandora of DC Comics and Gwen Tennyson from Ben 10 facing off against Qibly (Wakfu), Soma Cruz from Castlevania and Lina of the Slayers franchise.

This will be a close quarters match – they encounter each other inside the Hoover Dam.

Which team wins?

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145 Comments on "Korra, Pandora & Gwen Vs Qibly, Soma & Lina"

  1. Ragnorke June 25, 2014 at 7:06 am -      #1

    Well,pandora can kind of hold her own against he phantom stranger and spectre in the new52. She says she isnt threatened by them.

    Shes really good with her sickle/chain and has super human stamina.
    She can teleport, and all that other random hax magic.

  2. LadyRamkin June 25, 2014 at 7:37 am -      #2

    Soma loses all his power at the end of Dawn of Sorrow so he is completely useless here.

  3. Xander Xtreme June 25, 2014 at 7:55 am -      #3

    Pretty sure the girls from team 1 win.

  4. Epicazeroth June 25, 2014 at 9:24 am -      #4

    Very few video games or TV shows can keep up with comics. Just putting it out there.

    But yeah; what Ragnorke said.

  5. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 9:30 am -      #5

    Does Lina get the Giga-slave? If so the spell comes with barriers to protect her as she casts the spell and after it goes off, so she can survive the tremendous AoE.

  6. Murder June 25, 2014 at 9:34 am -      #6

    WTF is with all the hintai being posted! This site has been taken over by rising sun sympathizers…

    – It’s going to take a week of Warhammer to remove this junk.

  7. Commander Cross June 25, 2014 at 9:39 am -      #7

    Then Bring on a Month of Tenchi Muyo or Gurren Lagann to excise out most of 40K, but leave WH Fantasy be for now in that case.

    ___

    Though seriously, the only ‘token dude’ around here is Soma, and I’m surprised nobody tossed Eragon into the crossfire for all his wankage, really.

    Initial bets says this may take a while.

  8. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 9:43 am -      #8

    As for the Hoover dam, that isn’t going to exist by the end of this match.

  9. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 9:46 am -      #9

    “WTF is with all the hintai being posted! This site has been taken over by rising sun sympathizers…”

    1.What the fuck is hintai?
    2. What the hells a rising sun sympathizer?

  10. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 9:49 am -      #10

    Lina using the Ragna Blade…. www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2f6zvJa3wI

    Lina using Dragon Slave…. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDSWfGXFnCw also shows the barrier that surrounds her when she casts her big spells.

  11. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 9:52 am -      #11

    Ragna Blade, Giga-slave and Dragon Slave also attack the souls of what ever they hit. Same with Blast Ash which is one of the few spells she has that doesn’t destroy everything, and works only on living objects, or things with a soul.

  12. wingedlion June 25, 2014 at 10:40 am -      #12

    “Soma loses all his power at the end of Dawn of Sorrow so he is completely useless here.”

    optimum efficiency rule would fix that

    anyway is there anyone on team 1 who is immune to timestops? cause otherwise their kind of screwed.

  13. Rookie June 25, 2014 at 10:46 am -      #13

    Feats for Qilby (from 2:09):

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=W97-d2OKK9E

  14. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 10:56 am -      #14

    Gwen vs Ben
    youtu.be/4SciPrknKwQ?t=41s
    -41: Blast four arms
    -46: Use constructs
    -1:00, blast cuts through pool
    -1:06, Barrier
    -1:07, lifts truck
    -1:18-1:31, more barrier and also lievitation using constructs
    1:52 lifting more trucks simultaneously
    ===
    “anyway is there anyone on team 1 who is immune to timestops?”

    Gwen has shown to resist the effect of her future self’s time stop in Alien Force: “time heals”

    Pandora has also shown some that she can avoid being timestop by one of the sons of trigon. I’ll see if I can find that scan.
    Who has time stop and how does it work?

  15. pimpmage June 25, 2014 at 10:56 am -      #15

    Yeah, from what i remember of aria of sorrow…
    Soma has timestops, he can speed around with cheeta speeds(while flying too), hand grenades… and like a hundred other magical powers.

    Start at 3:00, parden the annoying guy that is talking. You can just opt to mute the video unless you want some sort of explanation.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpOXHNC9h3Y

  16. Rookie June 25, 2014 at 11:00 am -      #16

    More feats for Qilby (from 1:55), from 6:10 soul slicing:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjBuhFPRTO0

  17. wingedlion June 25, 2014 at 11:14 am -      #17

    “Who has time stop and how does it work?”

    soma has it.

  18. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 11:16 am -      #18

    Pandora defends against a building destroying blast
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Pandorashield_zps267e4ad5.jpg
    ===
    resist the time stop
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Trigonssonstopstime_zpsabd7cd45.jpg
    ===
    Flight
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Pandoracurse_zps6159431d.jpg
    ===
    Can catch arrow and strike intagibles like spirits
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Pandorateachings2_zps21788695.jpg
    ===
    Pandora infuses all her weapons with her magic. It powerful enough to even harm Spectre
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Pandoramagicinfusedweapons_zpsd9d8d1e4.jpg

  19. wingedlion June 25, 2014 at 11:28 am -      #19

    “It powerful enough to even harm Spectre”

    isn’t spectre universal?
    or did that change in new52?
    cause if he still is, team 1 should curbstomp.

  20. pimpmage June 25, 2014 at 11:32 am -      #20

    ““It powerful enough to even harm Spectre”

    Soma has like 4 invulnerability spells of varying types.

  21. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 11:35 am -      #21

    “isn’t spectre universal? or did that change in new52?”

    Haven’t seen any universal stuff from him yet. Considering his opposite spirit of redemption has only shown to be a planetary type threat, I’m guessing thatss where Spectre is right now.

  22. Rookie June 25, 2014 at 11:39 am -      #22

    @wingedlion

    “isn’t spectre universal?”

    Yes, but at the same time characters powers also depends on author. After all this did happen:
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/14/149681/3856856-2215057-untitled.png
    He even begged for mercy later. Depends how much authors wank their characters and lowball others.

  23. Glutinous-Bicarbonate June 25, 2014 at 12:06 pm -      #23

    Does Korra have her giant spirit of the universe form?

  24. Envoy June 25, 2014 at 12:06 pm -      #24

    “Yes, but at the same time characters powers also depends on author. After all this did happen:”
    +
    Thats reasonable though, everyone’s weakness is Batkick.

  25. Rookie June 25, 2014 at 12:09 pm -      #25

    @Envoy

    “Thats reasonable though, everyone’s weakness is Batkick.”

    Fair point, but Specte also took damage from other low-tier characters. I just don’t have the scans.

  26. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 12:12 pm -      #26

    So two members of team 2 have attacks that can damage the soul/spirit. I have to say I’m still thinking that Pandora is the only threat that team 1 has.

  27. Amm0vamp1r3 June 25, 2014 at 12:21 pm -      #27

    Soma is a “Stand” user lol that’s hilarity

  28. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 12:33 pm -      #28

    Pandora using teleporting for offesive
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Hzf2_zps7d46a7bf.jpg
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Hzf4_zpsbd3245b3.jpg
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Hzf5_zps3f6597d6.jpg
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Hzf6_zps0af6ca58.jpg
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Hzf7_zps4af7bc18.jpg
    ===
    “So two members of team 2 have attacks that can damage the soul/spirit.”

    Do any other have any defesne against magical effects. Gwen capable of paralyzing, putting people to sleep, reflecting attacks, and absorbing magic and energy.
    Lina seems to invoke power from something else for some of he big attacks. Gwen has shown being capable of cutting people off from there source of power.
    youtu.be/U1w3Np1pskA

  29. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 12:36 pm -      #29

    “Soma is a “Stand” user lol that’s hilarity”

    Glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed that.

  30. TLCBonaparte June 25, 2014 at 12:43 pm -      #30

    Does it really matter if Pandora is universal? Lina can destroy universe. So even if she is (which is doubtful) I would still go with team 2.

  31. Rookie June 25, 2014 at 12:44 pm -      #31

    @Ranger Lowk

    “Lina seems to invoke power from something else for some of he big attacks. Gwen has shown being capable of cutting people off from there source of power.”

    Someone already used magic block once on Lina. Later she gained four magical artifacts which allow her to use some of her magic even despite magic-block.
    Also Qilby can see magic, so he can just redirect magic-blocks attacks with his portals, I think.

    @TLCBonaparte

    “Does it really matter if Pandora is universal? Lina can destroy universe. So even if she is (which is doubtful) I would still go with team 2.”

    Only if her ultimate attack go out of control, which means that battle end in draw, since everybody will die and also it’s not that she use such attack as her first move.

  32. Amm0vamp1r3 June 25, 2014 at 12:44 pm -      #32

    It took me this long to see that lol

    As for the fight: so two people on side 1 are immune to time stop and only 1 on team 2. So stopping time would only be a hindrance for soma.

  33. Rookie June 25, 2014 at 12:53 pm -      #33

    @Amm0vamp1r3

    “As for the fight: so two people on side 1 are immune to time stop and only 1 on team 2. So stopping time would only be a hindrance for soma.”

    Qilby can resist timestop too. Yugo and Agamai were both able to relearn how to resist timestop in their battle against Nox. Quilby belongs to the same race as Yugo and unlike Yugo he never lost his knowledge, so he can do it too.
    Yugo resisted timestop (from 3:05):

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHpejSTnEqs

  34. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 1:00 pm -      #34

    “Does it really matter if Pandora is universal? Lina can destroy universe. So even if she is (which is doubtful) I would still go with team 2.”

    And how exactly would she survive said universal attack? Or where would she go? How would she breathe?
    Also Pandora can teleport herself and others to different places like another dimensions or the house of mystery which exist outside of space. Leaving her to die in nothingness.
    ===
    “Someone already used magic block once on Lina. Later she gained four magical artifacts which allow her to use some of her magic even despite magic-block.”

    But Gwen didn’t just cut him off, she also drained him of what he had. SO she still be drained right?
    What do you mean by some?
    ===
    “Also Qilby can see magic, so he can just redirect magic-blocks attacks with his portals, I think.”

    What if Pandora puts up an illusion to throw him off from where it actually comes from.
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/StrangeandPandoraIllusion_zps6bd0da47.jpg

  35. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 1:01 pm -      #35

    Only spells like Ragna Blade, Giga-slave, and dragon slave does she call upon outside sources for her magic really. Most of her normal spells tend to be from herself.

  36. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 1:03 pm -      #36

    Lina can’t survive the universal attack at all, it’s basically her fucking up the giga-slave, and the result is the Slayers multiverse’s TOAA swallowing everything back into the chaos from which it was born.

  37. Amm0vamp1r3 June 25, 2014 at 1:05 pm -      #37

    So soma could make it a 2 v 2 with his time stop, or 2 v 3 if he capitalizes.

  38. Rookie June 25, 2014 at 1:09 pm -      #38

    @Ranger Lowk

    “But Gwen didn’t just cut him off, she also drained him of what he had. SO she still be drained right?”

    Lina herself yes. But she will still have magic thanks to the artifacts ( those artifacts were created by some really top tier in Slayer verse, so I doubt that you can drain or stop their mana flow).

    “What do you mean by some?”

    She was only able to use low-level spells, like fireball and such. And also Ragna Blade, no matter how strange this is. But since Ragna Blade is, well blade, it can be avoided IMO.

    “What if Pandora puts up an illusion to throw him off from where it actually comes from.”

    That could work. Yugo was able to ignore some illusions, which means Qilby (Qilby and Yugo are both from top 7 of their race, bound to reborn eternally, but unlike Yugo and other 5 Qilby never lost any memories of his past lives and so he never had to relearn his abilities) can do it too, but those were never really impressive illusions.

  39. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 1:15 pm -      #39

    If she can use the ragna blade that should let her use dragon slave honestly since in terms of power needed to use the ragna blade >>> the Dragon slave by a huge degree

  40. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 1:20 pm -      #40

    Lina can also channel spells through weapons. Not sure the extent but she did charge a dagger with an empowered dragon slave.

  41. Rookie June 25, 2014 at 1:21 pm -      #41

    @Cassie Hack

    “If she can use the ragna blade that should let her use dragon slave honestly since in terms of power needed to use the ragna blade >>> the Dragon slave by a huge degree”

    Maybe. But she never used Dragon Slave while she was under magic block and she herself stated that she can’t use most of her spells. For example she weren’t able to fly.

    Anyway this is how I see the first part of the battle. Qilby teleport Lina away while he and Soma hold team 1 and Lina charge her dragon slave. Qilby then teleport himself and Soma to Lina’s location and redirect (with portals) dragon slave at team 1. He doesn’t exactly need to hit anyone with it since dragon slave is massive area attack.

  42. TLCBonaparte June 25, 2014 at 1:22 pm -      #42

    Even some of the low level spells from slayerverse, if you don’t know how to deal with them could be problem. For example: Shadow prison spell, you can’t move, the counter is to flash bright light to eliminate your shadow. But it’s unlikely people without prior knowledge would know the trick.
    Then there is the reverse healing. A simple spell that reverse people’s healing factor, basically faster you heal, deadlier the spell. You can literally implode yourself if you have regenerating factor.

  43. Rookie June 25, 2014 at 1:24 pm -      #43

    @TLCBonaparte

    “Even some of the low level spells from slayerverse, if you don’t know how to deal with them could be problem. For example: Shadow prison spell, you can’t move, the counter is to flash bright light to eliminate your shadow. But it’s unlikely people without prior knowledge would know the trick.
    Then there is the reverse healing. A simple spell that reverse people’s healing factor, basically faster you heal, deadlier the spell. You can literally implode yourself if you have regenerating factor.”

    I don’t know if Lina knows how to use such spells.

  44. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 1:25 pm -      #44

    yes the one she uses on trolls, loved that scene.

  45. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 1:27 pm -      #45

    Like first or second episode she uses the reverse healing spell, if I recall she was the one that invented it. Shadow snap is a black magic spell if I recall, and since that is her primary focus of magical study, it would be likely she knows how to cast it.

  46. Rookie June 25, 2014 at 1:30 pm -      #46

    @Cassie Hack

    “Shadow snap is a black magic spell if I recall, and since that is her primary focus of magical study, it would be likely she knows how to cast it.”

    I believe such spell was used against her and she recognized this spell, so you have a point.
    Qilby can redirect these attacks on the enemy too, so Qilby’s portals+his allies attacks is a good combo in theory.

  47. Ragnorke June 25, 2014 at 1:35 pm -      #47

    To the person who posted the scan of Batman beating Spectre…
    I have to wash my eyes with holy water now, caus my eyeballs just got fucked by DCs writers.

    Never mention that again! Please!

  48. Rookie June 25, 2014 at 1:38 pm -      #48

    @Ragnorke

    “Never mention that again! Please!”

    Sure have this instead:
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_medium/6/68345/3856855-bats.jpg
    This should help since here we see Batman… Oh wait. Darkseid, you weakling! Why is he still alive!

  49. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 1:47 pm -      #49

    Batman is being protected by a motherbox, and is wearing some kind of armor.

  50. Ragnorke June 25, 2014 at 1:49 pm -      #50

    Well, he wasn’t wearing any special armor when… when you know… the thing i never want to mention again happened.

    Spectre >>> Darkseid btw, or it used to be that way anyways.

  51. Xornell June 25, 2014 at 1:57 pm -      #51

    For what it’s worth, Spectre should be above the N52 timefuckery, and at his peak was stalemating COIE Anti-Monitor. Not sure why we’re talking Spectre, since this is Pandora, but there you go.

  52. OberHearse June 25, 2014 at 1:59 pm -      #52

    I wish authors would just put Batman against realistic foes, or else just have him outsmart more powerful foes…..its just silly when a peak human beats up universal entities…

  53. Xornell June 25, 2014 at 2:23 pm -      #53

    Can you imagine how batshit the batfans would go if Batman didn’t beat a multiversal batthreat every batweek?

  54. Ragnorke June 25, 2014 at 2:32 pm -      #54

    “Batman didn’t beat a multiversal batthreat every batweek?”

    Correction. *batversal.
    Batman is universe. Batman is god.

  55. OberHearse June 25, 2014 at 2:34 pm -      #55

    I dunno, I don’t have my batcalculator to make any batcalcs on the batfreaks batshit batexpextations of Batmans batbattles with various batthreats in the Batverse.

  56. Ragnorke June 25, 2014 at 2:40 pm -      #56

    So batteam1 batwins because pandora batbeat spectre, who got batbeat by batman, so batman beats everyone = team 2 loses.
    Amirite?

    Edit: Amibatrite?

  57. OberHearse June 25, 2014 at 2:44 pm -      #57

    You’d have to be as blind as a bat to see otherwise. Or just plain batty.

  58. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 3:10 pm -      #58

    Holy Batiliteration Batfans, where’s Adam West when you need him?

  59. wingedlion June 25, 2014 at 3:14 pm -      #59

    so now i’m confused. i know spectre jobs alot, but i know nothing of pandora. is pandora hurting spectre legit or not?

  60. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 3:52 pm -      #60

    To.. Many… batjokes. Brain, melting.
    ===
    “so now i’m confused. i know spectre jobs alot, but i know nothing of pandora. is pandora hurting spectre legit or not?”

    Yes. she also hurt Blight(sum total of evil on earth) who was the precursor to Specters opposite.
    ===
    “Qilby teleport Lina away while he and Soma hold team 1 and Lina charge her dragon slave. Qilby then teleport himself and Soma to Lina’s location and redirect (with portals) dragon slave at team 1.”

    Gwen can track people over long distances and even use it use that to teleport to that location like she did with Ragnarok when he tried to teleport away. (Alien force “vendetta”)
    Also when searching for a door into another dimension she could also sense Darkstar was near it.(Ultimate Alien “Couples Retreat”)
    She can also look into other dimensions.(Ultimate Alien “The Beginning of the End”)
    Pandora can also cast tracking spells and she can see into you and your deeds
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Notingcanblindpandora_zps9aadeb60.jpg
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Pandoracanseeyoursins_zps880eea69.jpg
    So she might be able to see behind his ploy.
    ===
    What version of Korra should I use? Before the lost of the avatars memeories or after. Right now she kind of seems like fodder. I mean pandora or gwen could likely teleport her to the tree where she was able to grow giant but pre-memories wouldn’t know how to do that.

  61. TLCBonaparte June 25, 2014 at 3:57 pm -      #61

    Look into Lina? She will come out cucu for coco puff.

  62. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 4:22 pm -      #62

    “Look into Lina? She will come out cucu for coco puff.”

    Pandora has been around for +8000 years. She has had to bare witness to all the really shitty stuff humanity was capable of.
    And this isn’t just vanilla humanity, this is comicbook crazyness mixed in with the regular horrible Craziness.

  63. wingedlion June 25, 2014 at 5:02 pm -      #63

    “Yes. she also hurt Blight(sum total of evil on earth) who was the precursor to Specters opposite.”

    if that’s the case then i see no reason for pandora to lose. unless this spectre is a diffrent version of him(new 52). but if not then pandora should take this.

  64. Amm0vamp1r3 June 25, 2014 at 6:04 pm -      #64

    The stand thing still blows my mind lol. He can stop time and then go all Ora Ora Ora on people

  65. Ragnorke June 25, 2014 at 6:07 pm -      #65

    ” unless this spectre is a diffrent version of him(new 52). but if not then pandora should take this.”

    Well technically the new52 is a different version, as are all new52 characters.
    Completely different feats and altered back stories etc etc
    But spectres easily still a planetbuster.

  66. TLCBonaparte June 25, 2014 at 7:08 pm -      #66

    Alright. Although I don’t see how looking into them will give her an edge against Dragon Slave, not much to that spell, it’s just a casual nuke Lina throw around like candy.

  67. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 7:51 pm -      #67

    Pandora’s second form
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/FyNh_zpsefbdcfc8.jpg
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/FyNi_zpsb0d6d675.jpg
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/FyNj_zps63d8cd7f.jpg
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/FyNk_zps7ebdf3b1.jpg
    ===
    “Although I don’t see how looking into them will give her an edge against Dragon Slave, not much to that spell, it’s just a casual nuke Lina throw around like candy.”

    Really, I thought Dragon slave required an incantaion and took time to pull off?

    Speaking of nukes, found ssomething I failed to notice before where some of the mystical villains were trying to turn magic users into magic nukes. They pull magical energy that equaled 20 megatons of force out of one of The JL Darks memebers and it held fine. They tried it on Pandora and she overloaded the machine. I’ll post those scans next.

  68. TLCBonaparte June 25, 2014 at 8:01 pm -      #68

    The incantation is optional. For lower level magic users, incantations are necessary to cast spells but higher level users can cast spells even dragon slave without it, just by saying the name of the spell is enough. However, the spell does become more powerful if you recite the full incantation. Lina was seen throwing dragon slave one after another when facing ruby eye in Slayers Revolution. She can throw about a dozen of these before tiring out.

  69. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 8:07 pm -      #69

    Here the first magical nuke level test
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/20megathaumatons1_zps9eb71d12.jpg
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/20megathaumatons2_zps4fb72662.jpg

    They tried it on Pandora, and she overloaded it
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Pandoralooksintohispast_zps785c3ac3.jpg
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Pandoraoverloadsmagicmagicnukeweapon_zps3a5ff8ed.jpg
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Pandoraoverloadsmagicnukeweapon_zps2e9ee9b8.jpg

  70. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 8:14 pm -      #70

    Hate the 5 link limit
    Wasn’t tired out and teleports out
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Pandorateleports1_zpsd4cead11.jpg
    ===
    Found a little less subtle example of Pandora reading people
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/GWKd_zps06c99f3f.jpg
    ===
    “However, the spell does become more powerful if you recite the full incantation. Lina was seen throwing dragon slave one after another when facing ruby eye in Slayers Revolution. She can throw about a dozen of these before tiring out.”

    How powerful are they without the incantation?
    Was that like the final episode? I never really got far with and of Slayers but I might be able to see if I can find the scene if you can’t.

  71. Cassie Hack June 25, 2014 at 8:57 pm -      #71

    I actually didn’t know that Lina could just quick cast dragon slave, still the spells like dragon slave, and Ragna Blade have barriers that automatically spring up when she starts to cast them. The Dragon Slave one is strong enough to well survive a dragon slave since she is often in the area of effect.

  72. TLCBonaparte June 25, 2014 at 8:58 pm -      #72

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd-AYADsAeQ

  73. Rookie June 25, 2014 at 11:05 pm -      #73

    @Ranger Lowk

    “Gwen can track people over long distances and even use it use that to teleport to that location like she did with Ragnarok when he tried to teleport away. (Alien force “vendetta”)
    Also when searching for a door into another dimension she could also sense Darkstar was near it.(Ultimate Alien “Couples Retreat”)
    She can also look into other dimensions.(Ultimate Alien “The Beginning of the End”)”

    Can she do it, while Qilby will attack her from all sides? It’s not that dragon slave take an eternity to cast too. And Qilby love to spam portals and since he can attack with them (like in videos above) it will be really difficult for Gwen to concentrate on something else.

  74. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 11:18 pm -      #74

    Those non-incantation DS didn’t seem all that power like the normal version.
    ===
    “Can she do it, while Qilby will attack her from all sides?”

    She can put up a protective barriers around her while she does it. Mana is apprently mufti-dimensional as it kept the flame keepers circle from opening up portals inside her barrier from another dimension and even keep them from slipping into it in the first place. She kept a barrier around her house, so she and kevin could focus on something else in “Ultimate Enemey pt1”.
    Plus Korra or even Gwen herself could keep mobile while she does it. And it’s not like it takes long to do.

  75. Ranger Lowk June 25, 2014 at 11:36 pm -      #75

    Found another instance where she’s both using magic to move, track, and keep up the thing she’s using to track with.
    youtu.be/Zxhfs7FJh00?t=3m46s
    Also some other feats like dodging energy blast at 1:22
    ===
    Another thing to note is that Gwen has been shown to absorb various energies like here see absorb the energy blast
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5AtBOlB-uk

  76. TLCBonaparte June 25, 2014 at 11:36 pm -      #76

    Meh, I mean even if it’s half powered, half a nuke is still pretty good, fast cast 2 of them and you get a full blast nuke.

  77. TLCBonaparte June 26, 2014 at 12:00 am -      #77

    I saw the video. TBH I don’t think Gwen is at Lina’s power level, her ability to absorb energy would be quite useful but it looks like it will cap out long before it can absorb something as powerful as dragon slave.

  78. Ranger Lowk June 26, 2014 at 12:43 am -      #78

    “Meh, I mean even if it’s half powered, half a nuke is still pretty good, fast cast 2 of them and you get a full blast nuke.”

    They didn’t even seem to be half a nuke. Where did you get they were half?
    ===
    ” TBH I don’t think Gwen is at Lina’s power level, her ability to absorb energy would be quite useful but it looks like it will cap out long before it can absorb something as powerful as dragon slave.”

    Was talking about against Qibly’s attacks.
    Gwen should still be capable of disrupting Lina spells that invoke others power like dragon slave.
    ===
    Gwen can also put people to sleep instantly with Somnus
    youtu.be/LbVSAxK5st8?t=14s
    Also in that is the spells to slow someone down and Increase gravity 1:03-1:08

    Not shown is Defecho Fhar which can cause an attack and the attacker to melt. Gwen used it when Ben tried to blast her with energy attack and the energy just melted away along with the Ben. Luckly Ben was one of his weirder aliens.

    And Statuea is an AoE pulse that paralyzes her enemies
    img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110416052046/ben10/images/1/1b/Statua.jpg

  79. TLCBonaparte June 26, 2014 at 12:56 am -      #79

    It’s an estimate. I mean, yeah it looks weak but you don’t really see the impact only it passing through the monsters, so judging its power is hard. I actually feel 50% power without incantation is probably me being pessimistic.

    Lina can use other magics.

    Burst Flare (baasuto furea)
    Category: Shamanism / Fire
    A ball of light appears in the targeted area, and in the next instant the ball bursts, raising a tongue of blue white flame. The flames can melt even a golem with ease. Against a human, not even the bones will remain. This is the strongest fire-shamanist magic a normal human can cast.
    “Source of all power, crimson fire buring bright! Gather together in my hand and become an inferno… BURST FLARE!”

    Burst Flare is said to be on par with dragon slave in term of power and it’s not black magic so no source to disrupt.

  80. TLCBonaparte June 26, 2014 at 1:03 am -      #80

    Actually, I found a list of spells in Slayer Universe. There is actually counter sleeping spell.

    robkelk.ottawa-anime.org/rpgs/slayers-spells.html

  81. Cassie Hack June 26, 2014 at 1:08 am -      #81

    I always used this for my Slayers spells. www.inverse.org/e/bkg/magic/cats.shtml

  82. Ranger Lowk June 26, 2014 at 1:24 am -      #82

    “Actually, I found a list of spells in Slayer Universe. There is actually counter sleeping spell.”

    “Spell to awaken those who won’t awaken with normal means.”
    Going by Cassie’s link
    How would she cast that on herself is she’s put to sleep?

  83. TLCBonaparte June 26, 2014 at 1:29 am -      #83

    It’s useful if her teammates got hit by the spell. There is also sleep spell in Slayerverse btw. Gwen wouldn’t necessarily go for Lina straight up. Lina isn’t the most mobile, in battle you deal with those that’s more imminent threat, which should be Qibly coming at you with teleportation.

  84. Ranger Lowk June 26, 2014 at 1:40 am -      #84

    ” in battle you deal with those that’s more imminent threat, which should be Qibly coming at you with teleportation.”

    Which is why I mentioned the bubble barrier and the ability to absorb energy attacks. Gwen has shown she can switch between and use different forms of he magic at once. Like blasting while creating platforms for her to land on in mid air while dodging fire while attacking multiple targets.
    Also Pandora could keep him busy while Korra deals with Soma.

  85. Parryboy June 26, 2014 at 4:57 am -      #85

    Give Gwen her true form and the alpha rune so she can do better.

  86. TLCBonaparte June 26, 2014 at 9:44 am -      #86

    Lina can also use multiple spells at once. Very commonly fly + another spell. They also have barrier spells. And So far I see no solution on Team 1’s part to defend against Team 2 sleep spell.

  87. Rookie June 26, 2014 at 9:50 am -      #87

    The problem is that Qilby will attack every enemy and redirect any of his allies attacks at the enemy really fast. He is a pain of the ass and he know how to use his abilities right. Sure, Gwen should be able to block most of attacks with her magic, Pandora most likely can survive a few hits, but what about Korra? Look from 2:00, how fast he block and at the same time attack his every enemy(he also tried not to kill anyone too (because they were all members of his race and he didn’t wanted to kill them)). Actually look at the entire video, Qilby show some good feats:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbZ6r8IwhsM

  88. Ranger Lowk June 26, 2014 at 10:27 am -      #88

    “There is also sleep spell in Slayerverse btw.”

    Does Lina know this spell. what does it look like?
    ===
    “And So far I see no solution on Team 1′s part to defend against Team 2 sleep spell.”

    Pandora doesn’t sleep due to her curse. And can dispel.
    Gwen can redirect spells. and dispel.
    Korra really the only one without a defense assuming it’s not a projectile. But Avatar states should still kick to protect her.
    ===
    “They also have barrier spells.”
    “The problem is that Qilby will attack every enemy and redirect any of his allies attacks at the enemy really fast.”

    And Gwen can drain magic. And a good deal of her spells aren’t projectile based to be defended or avoided against. So Team 2 doesn’t really have a defense against her sleep spell or the melting spell which effect the enemy directly. The only counter Team 2 has is useless if the only person who can use it is herself put to sleep.
    Pandora’s infused weapons can penetrate high tier mystical force (Spectre). Pandora holds enough power to overload a machine designed to handle nuke level force, Spectre>Pandora.
    ===
    Team 2 to don’t really have a counter for Defecho Fhar, It both causes an attack at her to melt away and melts the person who attacked her.

  89. Rookie June 26, 2014 at 10:35 am -      #89

    @Ranger Lowk

    “And Gwen can drain magic.”

    Qilby portal abilities are not magical. It something between magic and technology. But not magical at all.
    He still can see magic, because of his other natural abilities though, so Gwen migh be able to blind his magic vision if she hit him with magic drain spell.

    “And a good deal of her spells aren’t projectile based to be defended or avoided against. ”

    Qilby can still teleport himself, Soma or Lina out of harm way.

    ” So Team 2 doesn’t really have a defense against her sleep spell or the melting spell which effect the enemy directly. ”

    Then it would depend on who will strike first. And Gwen seems faster than Lina, but slower than Qilby to me. Dunno about Pandora or Soma. Korra is definitely one of the slowest characters here.

  90. Ranger Lowk June 26, 2014 at 10:43 am -      #90

    “Give Gwen her true form and the alpha rune so she can do better.”

    Gwen already knows how to turn into her true form. She’s done it to scar zombozo where she changed her size.
    And again when she drained power from the highbreed and blast the highbreed well over the horizon and over mountins.
    She just doesn’t like doing it because she might lose the whole being human thing she likes so much. Though as of Omniverse she seemingly has a balanced form inbetween her human and anodite forms.

    Don’t recall if she’s ever had the alpha rune. But
    1. It’s to late to change add stuff, Past 50 post
    2. Really don’t see how it would be fair to give a person whose species can effortlessly reality warp given enough power an artifact that gives the wearer access to an entire dimensions worth of magic.

  91. Ranger Lowk June 26, 2014 at 10:55 am -      #91

    “Qilby portal abilities are not magical.”

    She can also drain energy. It doesn’t have to be magical.
    ===
    “Qilby can still teleport himself, Soma or Lina out of harm way.”

    He can’t teleport himself away from himself. the spell directly effects the person. It doesn’t travel, it’s just applied.
    ===
    “Then it would depend who will strike first. And Gwen seems faster than Lina, but slower than Qilby to me. Dunno about Pandora or Soma.”

    Gwen can take a hit
    youtu.be/WDvWAK-_5GM?t=21s
    So assuming she survives the first hit should be able to counter.
    Pandora has dodged a hit from superman.
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Dj4R_zps9393ac4e.jpg
    Weakened but at his weakest point in life supes was capable of hitting double digit mach speed.
    So she should be capable of either defending them or keeping Qib mainly focused on her.
    ===
    Also should probably note on the last post. If Gwen can drain enough energy from her surroundings or people she’d eventually reach the level of her grandmother who can reality warp things with a snap.

  92. Rookie June 26, 2014 at 10:59 am -      #92

    @Ranger Lowk

    “He can’t teleport himself away from himself. the spell directly effects the person. It doesn’t travel, it’s just applied.”

    Hm, so instant magic. That’s hax. I know that Qilby have good magic resistance (because he is linked to the cube) but not so sure about soma or lina. So yeah it is a good way to attack.

    “Pandora has dodged a hit from superman.”

    And here I think I know now which team will win.

    “Even gwen can drain enough energy from her surroundings or people she’d eventually reach the level of her grandmother who can reality warp things with a snap.”

    More points for team 1.

  93. TLCBonaparte June 26, 2014 at 11:28 am -      #93

    So… what I can getting is Gwen can stop the other team from using powerful spells, and absorb all the rest, ALSO has the ability to kill people in an instant without any sort of projectile or contact… If that’s the case, she’s invincible, she can solo team 2.

  94. wingedlion June 26, 2014 at 1:10 pm -      #94

    “Also Pandora could keep him busy while Korra deals with Soma.”

    unless korra suddenly gained the ability to ignore a time stop, i don’t see how she is dealing with soma.

  95. Ranger Lowk June 26, 2014 at 4:36 pm -      #95

    “If that’s the case, she’s invincible, she can solo team 2.”

    She can’t do it all at once, she can switch up quick but she need back up to give her chance to pull off the spells. Alone they’d gang up on her and crush her defenses.
    ===
    “unless korra suddenly gained the ability to ignore a time stop, i don’t see how she is dealing with soma.”

    Problem with that is he would hindering his team more then he’d be hindering team 1.

  96. wingedlion June 26, 2014 at 4:53 pm -      #96

    “Problem with that is he would hindering his team more then he’d be hindering team 1.”-

    how so?
    two people from both sides are immune to timestops, and soma doesn’t have to prolong it. he can use it to quickly kill korra with a teleport stab and then shut it off. if it really becomes too much trouble then like rookie said earlier,qibly can teleport lina somewhere else for the time being while soma quickly kills kora and turns the time stop off. and considering soma is supersonic when using the black panther soul he should be able to finish her very quickly.

  97. Amm0vamp1r3 June 26, 2014 at 5:09 pm -      #97

    I don’t think the opening has been posted showing soma on action so

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=HxZfT7ysMOQ

  98. Ranger Lowk June 26, 2014 at 5:21 pm -      #98

    “how so?”

    Him taking out Korra would be a lesser blow to them taking out Lina.
    ===
    “two people from both sides are immune to timestops, and soma doesn’t have to prolong it.”

    Well only sort of, one is resistant. As in he could shake of the effects but for a time he would be slowed which would leave him open.
    ===
    “he can use it to quickly kill korra with a teleport stab and then shut it off. if it really becomes too much trouble then like rookie said earlier,qibly can teleport lina somewhere else for the time being while soma quickly kills kora and turns the time stop off.”

    Pandora and Gwen can shield others and or teleport them away. Soma would be focused on Korra while the whoever Lina was keeping busy is now free to act against him. Either Gwen or pandora should be capable of stalling him. Gwen can put people in a bubble constructs or trappings and Pandora can stun others
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Hzf8_zpsafbde2bc.jpg
    i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd485/infamousColeMacgrath/DC/Pandora/Hzf9_zps96249313.jpg
    ===
    Though considering the only one who’d be capable of keeping Qib on his toes is Pandora It’ll probably be Gwen.

  99. Amm0vamp1r3 June 26, 2014 at 5:24 pm -      #99

    Also a reaction feat for soma idk how fast it is though

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=HxZfT7ysMOQ

  100. wingedlion June 26, 2014 at 7:27 pm -      #100

    “Well only sort of, one is resistant. As in he could shake of the effects but for a time he would be slowed which would leave him open.”

    yugo got slowed but then broke through. qibly shouldn’t be slowed for long.

    “Pandora and Gwen can shield others and or teleport them away. Soma would be focused on Korra while the whoever Lina was keeping busy is now free to act against him. Either Gwen or pandora should be capable of stalling him. Gwen can put people in a bubble constructs or trappings and Pandora can stun others”

    can either of them sheild korra fast enough before soma takes her out at supersonic speeds? if timestop proves to be too much of a problem, soma could just do that. or just teleport behind korra without warning and strike her down instantly.

    “Though considering the only one who’d be capable of keeping Qib on his toes is Pandora It’ll probably be Gwen.”

    can gwen track people as fast as soma? cause otherwise he could just evade every attack she uses on him or take her out before she uses them.

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